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Re: Xptek [message #368828 is a reply to message #368823] Sun, 25 January 2009 01:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pvtschlag is currently offline  pvtschlag
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Aprime wrote on Sun, 25 January 2009 01:43

THE TIMES.


Indeed.


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Re: Xptek [message #368864 is a reply to message #364255] Sun, 25 January 2009 10:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Because one can't effectively ban with the use of IP banning!

Re: Xptek [message #368866 is a reply to message #368864] Sun, 25 January 2009 10:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 25 January 2009 12:13

Because one can't effectively ban with the use of IP banning!

Not taking sides in this argument, but IP banning is relatively easy to get around for anyone who knows what they're doing.


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Re: Xptek [message #368900 is a reply to message #364255] Sun, 25 January 2009 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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People: "Servers need serials to ban with..."

Ma1kel: "...because one can't ban effectively with IPs" (paraphrased)

That's his point.


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Re: Xptek [message #368902 is a reply to message #364255] Sun, 25 January 2009 14:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I never assumed EA would be involved. Just do it - fuck what EA thinks.

Why do we need to wory about keeping cheaters out? I thought one of the big pitches for TT was that it would allow you guys to fix cheats, exploits and bugs? A large majority of our current bans are not serial bans and were doing just fine.


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Re: Xptek [message #368906 is a reply to message #368902] Sun, 25 January 2009 14:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Sun, 25 January 2009 22:18

I never assumed EA would be involved. Just do it - fuck what EA thinks.

Why do we need to wory about keeping cheaters out? I thought one of the big pitches for TT was that it would allow you guys to fix cheats, exploits and bugs? A large majority of our current bans are not serial bans and were doing just fine.

You couldn't possibly catch aimbot users in a 40 players server anyway...


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Re: Xptek [message #368991 is a reply to message #364255] Mon, 26 January 2009 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There are more reasons to ban than cheating. Not even the best coding can prevent everything someone can do to warrant a ban.

I'm the bawss.
Re: Xptek [message #369017 is a reply to message #368902] Mon, 26 January 2009 12:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Crimson wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 11:47

Without the serial database, cheaters can keygen thousands of "valid" serials and they will be virtual un-bannable.

Crimson wrote on Mon, 26 January 2009 08:34

There are more reasons to ban than cheating. Not even the best coding can prevent everything someone can do to warrant a ban.

What now?


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Re: Xptek [message #369042 is a reply to message #364255] Mon, 26 January 2009 16:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Destroying a mass with an artillery, several times?

That's a TH based ban IMO.


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Re: Xptek [message #369397 is a reply to message #369017] Thu, 29 January 2009 02:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Mon, 26 January 2009 12:00

Crimson wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 11:47

Without the serial database, cheaters can keygen thousands of "valid" serials and they will be virtual un-bannable.

Crimson wrote on Mon, 26 January 2009 08:34

There are more reasons to ban than cheating. Not even the best coding can prevent everything someone can do to warrant a ban.

What now?


Grief players can use keygens, too, genius.


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Re: Xptek [message #369399 is a reply to message #364255] Thu, 29 January 2009 03:23 Go to previous message
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APB and reborn cannot ban by serials anyway, almost 100% of players use direct connect methods because the mods are standalone.
We could really do with this, it wouldn't be a futile effort. The database means sod all to me.



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