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Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? [message #139277]

Fri, 18 February 2005 21:13

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SuperFlyingEngi

You're asking Seale and me to prove the impossible. Whether or not that quote was actually uttered by Jefferson happened such a long time ago that there really are no more reliable sources stating whether or not he ever said this.

If it was spoken by Jefferson, it will be "written down" in an archive, go find it. Unless of course you are stating that it's folklore. If so, nothing else really needs to be said to its validity.

SuperFlyingEngi

Even if it wasn't spoken by Jefferson, that doesn't mean I can't still share an opinion with it. It's really rather unimportant as to whether or not this quote originated with Mr. Jefferson.

Fine, share the opinion all you want.. Just make sure you credit the liberal historian as the source, instead of a Founding Father.. It amazes me that you aren't able to see the enormous difference there (or, maybe just not willing to see it)

If it was stated by Jefferson, it is used as a validation of your dissent, how could anyone argue against a position that one of the Founding Fathers expressed is a vital role in the development of this wonderful nation?

If it was stated by a liberal Historian, it's simply a statement made after the fact in an attempt to justify his public dissention's. read, an excuse.

One makes your dissention argument somewhat valid in the eyes of the opposition, the other just makes them laugh.

So, which way did you intend it to be taken?

SuperFlyingEngi

Oh, and since a lot of you conservatives seem to believe that following the current President through thick and thin is the only patriotic thing to do, I presume that you were all on Clinton's side whenever he made a move?

Did we go to war under Clinton? I supported Bosnia, Somalia, launching missiles at Osama; in fact, I supported most everything he did militarily, except drastic downsizing and vetoing budgets affecting the paychecks of every military serviceman in the country. You're the one that doesn't want this to turn in to another Vietnam, so step up to the plate and ensure it doesn't. Cry foul against Bush all you want, just make sure that when our troops need money, you're all for it, and when they return, meet them at the airport and thank them for serving your country; even if you don't agree with the service they provided. When we're no longer engaged, you can begin your downsizing again and reducing military spending.

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		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Tue, 08 February 2005 19:08
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: cowmisfit on Tue, 08 February 2005 19:27
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: cheesesoda on Tue, 08 February 2005 19:28
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Tue, 08 February 2005 19:39
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:05
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:24
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Crimson on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:25
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Aircraftkiller on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:25
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:30
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Aircraftkiller on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:34
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:35
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:35
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:41
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:49
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:58
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Tue, 08 February 2005 20:59
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Tue, 08 February 2005 21:27
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Crimson on Fri, 18 February 2005 10:40
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Kytten9 on Fri, 18 February 2005 12:29
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Fri, 18 February 2005 12:57
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: SuperFlyingEngi on Fri, 18 February 2005 14:20
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Fri, 18 February 2005 15:10
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: cheesesoda on Fri, 18 February 2005 18:41
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Crimson on Fri, 18 February 2005 19:53
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Fri, 18 February 2005 21:13
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Fri, 18 February 2005 22:48
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Crimson on Sat, 19 February 2005 05:29
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: nastym4n on Tue, 22 February 2005 06:51
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Tue, 22 February 2005 07:18
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Tue, 22 February 2005 08:10
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Crimson on Tue, 22 February 2005 16:25
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Wed, 23 February 2005 21:41
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: PointlessAmbler on Wed, 23 February 2005 21:56
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Wed, 23 February 2005 21:57
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Wed, 23 February 2005 22:18
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Fabian on Wed, 23 February 2005 22:22
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: msgtpain on Wed, 23 February 2005 22:42
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: warranto on Wed, 23 February 2005 23:23
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Crimson on Thu, 24 February 2005 00:38
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Chronojam on Thu, 24 February 2005 06:44
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: warranto on Fri, 25 February 2005 18:23
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: IRON FART on Fri, 25 February 2005 22:17
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: Jecht on Fri, 25 February 2005 22:40
		Dissent is the highest form of patriotism? By: IRON FART on Sat, 26 February 2005 12:09

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