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He's lying about pretty much everything he stated in this topic. including him not being the only one doing the flooding.
He'd hop on TS and to tell people it's "fire st0rm" time.
Wow, I think I just stepped back into high school.....oh wait, maybe it was grade school. Anyway......y'all sound like my 3 yr old and 1 yr old daughters fighting. I'm just gonna go play some renegade now and let y'all talk like little kids. Have fun with that! I hope you feel better at the end of the day!
WOW Wilo... How can we just move on and forget about all this shit that you have done? In my opinion, your the worst owner ever... Can't beleive that you crashed jelly server for months... I HOPE that no one is gonna forgive you for that... Good luck getting people in your server... Cause most wont be going back from all this shit that you have donee..
Good thing I actually left the mod team cause who wants to be a mod now at this community with YOU as an Owner.
YOU fucked up really bad WILO.
Shit st0rm inc O_O
you remember when you were so angry at wilo that you wanted to beat him up in real life? what was it you were angry about again? i don't remember (though i do remember him responding to it by posting personal info on you), so it can't have been as grievous as what the jelly community can claim, but it shows two things
1. you get twice as angry as the likes of liquid at half the provocation
2. you occasionally (depending on your mood swings) think wilo's a ----
but i'm glad you two have made up, you're perfect for each other
it seems pretty easy to sit back and not give a fuck when it's not happening to you
let's see how you'd be acting if your server went down 12 times a day every day for over two months
and when you look at who the cause of it was all that immaturity can be traced right back to here
This whole discussion turns into big bullsh*t now. I do not know what happened and who did what (nor do I care) but obviously this is at a point now where noone has to say anything anymore to anybody since you start to repeat everything over and over again.
Everything has been said -> close topic.
You guys aren't going to change a thing here at all. It'll go in one ear and out the other. Renegaders will keep playing Renegade. Admins will abuse, every one of those perfect little owners/admins has over the years in some manner. Stop wasting your time.
Spoony, don't be handing out lectures when you know nothing.
Still laughing at this, keep flaming, and I'll keep on not caring.
Whats really funny is that almost every community leader has attacked another community at one point or another and I just happen to get caught, I dare half of you to admit the shit you have done.
Regards,
Wilo S.
St0rm Network Administrator
http://www.st0rm.net/
You guys should just leave the forums and stop doing what you accuse us of having done, driving players away from our community.
You all said what you needed to say, and guess what. Nothing has changed from post #2 to this post and nothing will change for all posts after. What is done has been done and it cannot be reversed.
i miss being able to play in a server with the gameplay that I personally find the most interesting without having to worry about the ren drama revolving around whoever owns the server. for some reason people in game keep poking me and asking me questions about the administration even though i'm just a normal (albeit highly skilled hehe) player :/ while I understand the rage and flames over the scandal and the urges to punish, it just seems wrong to be channeling this much hate into a game that's supposed to be an enjoyable pastime...
...and it especially feels bad when people keep harassing me and telling me i shouldn't be playing in this server or i'm one of the terrorists (or something along those lines). forcing all the players to leave a server because its owner does something wrong is like forcing all citizens of a country to emigrate just because the leader does something wrong...
well. what i'm trying to get at here is.. players should be able to just play in whatever server offers them gameplay that they enjoy the most. Its supposed to be a game, not a company they have to defend... They shouldn't be forced to read about this rendrama or be dragged into it. If the people in charge of communities do something wrong, punish them, not the players of the servers..
perhaps a good analogy here would be to compare servers to themeparks. There shouldnt be people harassing you to get out of the theme park just because the owner of the park does something.. I just wanna frigging ride the rollercoaster, not get involved in the politics.
maybe it would seem different to you if you were on the receiving end of a dozen server crashes every day of the week, for over 8 weeks straight
imagine playing a game in st0rm and every time the server started to fill up the server crashed and restarted the map
and you try for hours, but it just keeps happening
what Wilo is saying now is that it couldn't possibly have been him, and that it basically has to be one of the other people he can't name or prove did it
believe what you want
i don't get how or why you're still denying it Wilo; are you a legitimate sociopath or something?
I told raven in private message who was involved.
ok
if you don't mind, answer the last line of my last message
it was a serious question
Amusing, Falcod.Quote:
even though i'm just a normal (albeit highly skilled hehe) player
It´s not. No one of St0rm is defending his actions. The crashing happened a few months back at St0rm as well, so Wilo knows how it feels. We all know. He's one hell of an idiot for doing that same shit to another community, no one deserves that.Quote:
have to ask you all this - what makes you think it's ok that he's been terrorizing other Renegade servers for months?
I am sure that lots of us, his own community members, are pretty mad and disappointed as well. Some of us are working their asses off for this community, and these actions are not really helping us.
We want to move on and enjoy Renegade. None of us has anything to do with this shit after all. That you guys won't do that is completely understandable though. But Wilo caused this shit, his problems, he can solve it with you guys, not anyone else from this community. That we are following/forgiving him, is our own choice, just like you guys are deciding not to forgive him. I accept that decision, I hope you can accept mine/ours as well. If not, well, that sucks. But we will still move on. I hope you guys will do that soon as well.
You're an idiot Wilo. Don't do this shit again.
Regards,
Alpha
i have plenty of experience in that area liquid.. as in the area of being on the receiving end. I mean, i used to play on jelly too (still have my 700 recs there if u don't believe me).. there have been cheaters and hackers and what not ruining games for years. and storm isn't particularly immune from it either. I fully understand the rage you feel against this sort of thing. I'm just saying that you shouldn't direct that rage at the people around the culprit.
Let me extend the theme park analogy.. Suppose there's a theme park whose owner decided to pour trash into another theme park. What you're doing is roughly the same as going up to the park visitors/staff and branding them as criminals or accomplices unless they leave the park. While you are fully right in being outraged that this park owner decided to pollute other parks, harassing the visitors/staff at his park is just the wrong way to go about it.
similarly, as a visitor.. we should be able to just go to whatever park has rides which we find the most enjoyable, not get entangled in whatever political situation the park is in.
I wish to nominate this Topic for an Oscar.
Category : Best Drama
I'm sad face to hear/read about all this considering jelly and st0rm are the 2 communities I have made a renegade home.I have a long list of friends from both communities. I understand the frustrations to some degree since I too have a server(ish) (still developing it).
At the same time, it takes a lot to post onto your community forums and say I screw up majorly. It also takes a lot for all parties to forgive, even more to move past. It requires everyone to swallow their pride and humble themselves and to not rage which is hard. Now is the opportunity for people to change for the better. This won't be fixed in a month, but as time goes, things will smooth out.
The way I see it is that Jelly and st0rm have more to offer their players if the mods/admins/owners can move past everything. A strong majority of the people who play renegade are on these two servers. No good if everyone is divided. People who play this game play it for the game, chilling with friends, and having a good time. This is best accomplished if both servers can move past and be able to do events and etc again.
From what I have gathered, Wilo is trying to make amends, and ultimately regrets his actions. I can stand behind Wilo because to me he is ready to change for the better. I stand behind Spoony also. Before I switched to st0rm, I remember being friends with ya. I was also a temp mod on jelly a few times when Meehlimo was still around with Jelly map pack and mini aow.
Maybe after a couple months fly by, st0rm and jelly have a joint community event. Have a temp mod team composed of mods from both servers and have the maps be some of wilo's crazy shit like death_st0rm, st0rm_arach, etc? Another option would be mods for both communities against the public for both communities. I would not suggest anything st0rm vs jelly though to prevent more rage.
One issue I have seen after reading all the posts is the hateful remarks. Keep posting them if you want to keep people fighting and at each other's throat. It doesn't help anything.
Ultimately, its time for a cookie after writing this :P
that's exactly the same as what your response to cheating in the commwar boiled down to (after going to great lengths to deny it and try to get other people blamed for it, then making a dishonest partial admission once you thought you might be busted, then it later turned out you were lying about that too...) - after the exact same process, all you can say is you aren't the only person who acts so despicably and others get away with it
to read your posts one would almost imagine you think there should be punishments for people like you... XWIS bans, that sort of thing? and you can't claim people like you should be allowed to do whatever the fuck you want to someone else's server, because look at what you threatened to do to xpert when you thought he was attacking you.
you're right about one thing though, you don't actually care (despite occasionally pretending you do); because you're obviously a sociopath
uh...Quote:
Originally Posted by some dumbass
1. repeatedly crashing someone else's server without the slightest provocation, continually lying about doing so, and trying to get other people blamed for it
2. calling wilo a ----, which he is
if you can't see the difference, you can't see the difference
I keep see people saying this but the fact is player numbers are going up with this topic ? server was full most of yesterday with loads of old names in game .
and the forums have never been so active.
not sure what ppl want to now come from this topic ?
are they hopeing that if they name and shame so much that all players will leave the server and hate the owners ??
its not going to happen as humans are funny creatures .
like in life
the public realy couldnt give a shit what the president did they will still support him and visit his country and forget and forgive his actions over night .
No, I don't care because this is the fucking internet, its a god damn game, and the fact that you are all getting worked up over something that will have no effect on ones life down the road is kinda sad imo.
Whats done is done. Your all making a huge fuss, stop your crying. Its over.
All people are doing now is adding fuel to the fire, making comments that are not needed.
Now I have to deal with comments like this: «00:28:03» {Duck} wilo you have the likeability of a hitler youth, and speaking of hitler, if that lazy bastard had completed his mission we wouldnt be having this problem
So you tell me who is being immature at this point.
Honestly Wilo.. You cheated. So good luck getting Iran off of your dick because he was all over mine when I used RGH on Jelly. He's a troll thats not gonna leave you now.
In my eyes, you're no different than any other cheater in Renegade. But because you're a server owner people are going to be a little more harsh on you. But hey, I cheated before too, I'm sure many of use have used RGH before, maybe some just not caught, not saying you used RGH because I don't know exactly, and I'm not saying it's okay, all I am saying is that even Liquid forgave me and unbanned me off of his server. We all deserve second chances. When second chances are going to be givento you, however, only time will tell.. Lots of time from the looks of things.
Yes, you attacked Jelly many times, but in the big picture, is Jelly still functioning? Does it look like they lost any players? Are they collapsing now because you attacked them? No.. People complained on Jelly obviously, but its still there. Its not like you destroyed a whole community.
And hey, if ANY of you were given the power to crash any server without being detected, would you? Some wouldn't but im sure many of you would, not saying I would.. My rep is already shitty.
But seriously.. Nothing was terribley ruined in Ren. EVERYTHING is still functioning just like before this happened. We need to give Wilo time to SHOW and to PROVE to us that he DOES regret what he did.
This flaming and hatred posts are only making things worse in the midst of things and this will never be over until y'all shut up.
-Cyanide.
wow now thats a statement . being my grandfather was polish . that realy offends more than just one person here .
.«00:28:03» {Duck} wilo you have the likeability of a hitler youth, and speaking of hitler, if that lazy bastard had completed his mission we wouldnt be having this problem
this from the guy who ddoses and hacks people over "a god damn game", but when people call you a dick for doing this (cos you are one), they're "making a huge fuss"
sigh... listen to yourself
as for "second chances", remember that pm you sent me some time ago saying how you've totally changed from the ---- you used to be? guess rehab didnt work
and it would take a lot more than a joke in terrible taste from duck to make someone else the bad guy, so nice try. his joke isn't as bad as your actions. btw i wasn't being rhetorical or trying to be funny when i called you a sociopath, i genuinely think you have a serious psychological disorder
btw can we hear a little less about how the problem is not what wilo did but the response of his victims? unless people simply enjoy making themselves look stupid
Spoony, when are you going to realize this is done and over with. I am not going to get sucked into this more than it has already taken me in.
I put so much effort into crashing jelly! I opened command prompt... I created a bat file... and I clicked a button... a script kiddie could do what I did. If you honestly have such a simple exploit on your server you are asking for it. Now this doesn't justify what I did but by all means please fix your fucking server.
And about iran, I already told raven, Iran also did this to Jelly, he was one of the people who knew I did it and also was doing it. Funny huh? Your little friend who plays all sides? He was one of the people who you trust so much yet he was blowing shit up to...
Oh well
when are you gonna understand that when you repeatedly attack someone else's server, consistently lie about the fact you're doing so, try to get other people blamed for it, eventually make a partial admission when it's too late to do anything else, turn out to be lying about that too... when you do all that, you aren't the one who gets to say when it's over?
don't you think an XWIS ban or something would be justified for this? and if you say no, then what do we make of what you threatened to do to xpert the other day?
heaven forbid anyone mistake you for a "script kiddie".Quote:
I put so much effort into crashing jelly! I opened command prompt... I created a bat file... and I clicked a button... a script kiddie could do what I did.
i think you may have confused me with someone else, but whateverQuote:
And about iran, I already told raven, Iran also did this to Jelly, he was one of the people who knew I did it and also was doing it. Funny huh? Your little friend who plays all sides? He was one of the people who you trust so much yet he was blowing shit up to...
Ban me from xwis, I don't even use xwis, I don't care. I don't even fucking play renegade on other servers. Ban me ban me! Dude its a game. If I wanted to destroy renegade I would, but I don't care. You all act like this game is your life.... your the ones who have this so absorbed into your life...
yes, we all need advice from wilo on how to take this computer game less seriously.
stick to what you know champ... actually forget i said that, cos "what you know" seems to be ddosing and hacking etc, and then when people call you a ---- for it (which you are), acting like they're the losers. listen to yourself, you're a sad little joke of a man
I figured you were lying when you said you didn't care about what people say on the internet, so I wanted to prove it. Banning me proved that you do care what people say on the internet. You seem to be the one crying from one comment on the INTERNET. Ironic isn't it. You act like a little girl half the time and have the maturity of one to go with it. Just yesterday in your ts, you were playing on a game on islands and apparently got pissed at falcod for something so you were telling your members on ts on falcods team to get behind him and block him. Nice maturity there, encouraging team hamper.
Ok, two things before you twist this more than you have,
1. You are trying to rationalize that its ok to say Hitler didn't do a good of enough job of killing all the jews... How sad of a person are you?
2. I asked my "Team" mates to help block him from rushing in and killing my mammoth and I made a joke to smiley I would pay her cookies to block him.
You love fueling drama, you really are a sad pathetic human.
You have been rationalizing that its no big deal to drop a full server for who knows how long.
No you asked people on his own team to block him and when 1 or 2 of them started doing it he started making mod requests. How can we believe anything you say when you even lie and try to cover something like that up.Quote:
2. I asked my "Team" mates to help block him from rushing in and killing my mammoth and I made a joke to smiley I would pay her cookies to block him.
Fixed that so it referred to you.Quote:
You love "creating" drama, you really are a sad pathetic human.
I never rationalized that what I did was Ok, if you actually took the time to read these posts you would see that what I did was not ok and I am well aware of that. You are just trying to justify a stupid comment you made about a group of people.
And no I did not ask people on his team to block him, I just shouted out in teamspeak for someone to block him from getting into the GDI Base, but twist it how you want duck, its what you do. Your a big man on the internet! Oh wait! Now your going to call me out and have me drive to your place or you will drive to mine?! Oh god! So scared.
Your pathetic, wasting your time over a god damn game.
This will all be over and gone within a month or so, St0rm will still be here, I will still be here, and guess what! I wont care about you or your drama.
I fucked up. I admit that, I am well aware of that, I have to live with it. You don't, go do something with your life besides troll this place.
I also already apologized to a majority of the people involved in private. I have a few left to do but that's about it. Most people want to move past this, but as you can see the Renegade forums drama has come here!
1. it must be obvious even to someone as thick as you that he was joking.
2. i didn't try to say duck was justified in saying it, i said that what he said wasn't as bad as what you did
every time i see the word "drama" in a renegade context it's spoken by someone who did something fucking retarded and uses it to describe the shit people give him for doing itQuote:
You love fueling drama, you really are a sad pathetic human.
yeah, we love the fact you did this because it gave us an excuse to rail at you... good lord, listen to yourself. you seriously do have mental problems
Get your head out of your ass spoony? Have you ever even read the Renegade forums? Its a fuck fest! Drama about everything, this game has so much drama a new player could sneeze and it would be world war 51313.
At this point your only defense since I have admitted to everything and accepted what I did is to question my mental stability as you guys throw out racist comments and attack me non stop trying to cut me down. Really? This is sad and pathetic, you are barely human.
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If noone supports my Suggestion for an oscar then maybe an Emmy? Im pretty sure this drama will win easily if u all support it :(