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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89397] | Sat, 22 May 2004 15:31  |  
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				|  |  K9Trooper Messages: 821
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	| You know what? I am sick and tired of all the shit going down lately between BC and BHS. What xptec did was WAY out of line by breaking the trust of BC and distributing their program. I for one feel that this is only going to open the door for more shit and both sides are going to regret things to come. xptec fired a nuke and now an all out war is going to start. If I was a mod/admin here I would ban xptec from here and put his IP(s) on the renguard ban list for theft. All those people that downloaded it should delete it and atleast show some respect for what has come out of BC like the sniper script. 
 I have had it with the little games being played here. I would have expected script kiddie games like this on a HL/CS forum... Not here.
 
 I think I am done here. I am only going to return to read Kirby's story and thats about it. Maybe John (Hareman) is right about this place...
 
 ~K9
 
 R.I.P. TreyD. You will be missed, but not forgotten.
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89398] | Sat, 22 May 2004 15:34   |  
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					|  xptek_disabled Messages: 1308
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	| Sorry, I realized it was wrong and stopped giving it out. In total, only 10 people downloaded it anyway. To be honest I wasn't really happy about giving it in the first place. But peer pressure always wins. 
 Local oper-irc.ugin.net - A Scrumfy free IRC.
 Jonwil > SK
 http://www.byterush.net/
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89403] | Sat, 22 May 2004 15:38   |  
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				|  |  Crimson Messages: 7431
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	| BHS WASN'T INVOLVED IN THIS IN ANY WAY. We do not condone his actions and we were not aware of them either. 
 BHS plans to release a full statement after we have a meeting with BC.
 
 I'm the bawss.
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89406] | Sat, 22 May 2004 15:42   |  
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	| This is like your second post about leaving the forums. Is this one for real? 
 I dont even know wtf these programs are supposed to do anyway
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89407] | Sat, 22 May 2004 15:42   |  
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				|  |  Crimson Messages: 7431
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	| So why are you faulting BlackHand Studios for actions that were done without our knowledge or consent by someone who's not on our staff? 
 I'm the bawss.
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89431] | Sat, 22 May 2004 18:21   |  
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				|  |  Slicer_238 Messages: 361
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	| Here is one. Everyone shut the fuck up and get on with your lives.  :rolleyes: What Vlotk did for Renegade is awesome. Hell I would love ot see him script an illegal Starcraft mod for Renegade won't happen.  Regardless the dynamic weather, crate, etc scripts were kick ass. BHS and the people in it also did good things. This is just like the fights between Isreal and Palestine.   :rolleyes: 
 May Trey rest in forever bliss and happiness.
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89442] | Sat, 22 May 2004 20:11   |  
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				|  |  amid_tha_rubble Messages: 97
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	| sigh...more infighting. 
 some of the things you people do (like phoning cisco) is absolutely incredible. Some of you obviously have severe mental and or emotional problems.
 
 Can't we all just get along?
 
 Down with the Liberal Thieves in Ottawa!
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89458] | Sat, 22 May 2004 20:50   |  
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				|  |  Whitedragon Messages: 832
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	| No BC mod or admin called Cisco to get them fired. If someone did it wasnt anyone related to BC. Vlokt wanted Renegade's source code on the off chance BHS got it, NOT the Renguard source. 
 Black-Cell.net
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 DragonServ, Renegade's first IRC interface bot
 Creator and lead coder (2002 - )
 
 Dragonade, Renegade's first server side modification
 Lead coder (2005 - )
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89504] | Sun, 23 May 2004 08:47   |  
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	| im glad he did it, i wish i could, BC got what they deserved, |  
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89520] | Sun, 23 May 2004 09:53   |  
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	| I'll second that reckoning. Before people flame the "bad people" (talking here about both sides), just think about what Renegade could be if both worked together. |  
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89531] | Sun, 23 May 2004 10:45   |  
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	| Seriously, your all fucking retarded. 
 In the end it doesn't matter if you are who you say you are. You will still mean nothing to me.
 
 When i have kids, everytime i drive past a fast food restaurant, im gonna punch my kid in the face, then they'll never wanna come..
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89570] | Sun, 23 May 2004 14:01   |  
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				|  | SS217 Messages: 321
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	| Don't you idiots dare whine, I was up till 4am along with WD, cc, Scrumfy, Blazer, Crimson, mac, Scorpio, ACK, SK sorting out this crap though we kicked out ACK and SK   
 
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			| Sick and Tired. [message #89576] | Sun, 23 May 2004 14:32   |  
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	| Have you ever woken up one morning and felt that things would never be the same they had been the day before? I woke up yesterday morning and felt sad. I felt saddened by the actions of so few affecting so many. I was disturbed by the lack of values that those responsible displayed by means of their actions. I felt betrayed because of the evil in our midst. 
 I fail to understand why xptec felt it to be ok to bring lies and deceit into the Renegade community. Whether I personally value BC or not, BC deserves my respect, my respect for their immense contributions to the Renegade community, just like Crimson and those around her. I have read many voices on the topic and heard their excuses: "BC did this, BC did that ..." "They deserved it ..."
 
 All these excuses don't matter.
 
 What matters is that I know what is right, and I know what is wrong. And if I am not sure, I look myself into my eyes and listen to my heart to find the truth. I hope that I will never dishonor myself the way xptec did when he chose his path.
 
 
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