| Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #62346] | 
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						gibberish
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		Some people have mentioned creating "Anti-Cheats" such as Small-Heads. 
 
However I was thinking that one of the best anti-cheats available is actually Final Renegade for the simply reason that it is so obvious. 
 
If someone is only running big-heads its not always clear if they are cheating, however if someone makes a one shot kill of a tank or a high level character and they are not Sakura or Havoc they are cheating which means you can ban them without any lingering doubts. 
 
For this reason I was wondering if it would be a good idea to host FR on a lot of web sites to make it really easy to get. 
 
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			| Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #62348] | 
			Sat, 17 January 2004 05:30    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		well, it is an idea....but i think not a good one...i have seen ppl that i think are cheating who stay in tanks all the time to not get caught, many would just do the same thing
		
		
		
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			| Re: Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #62391] | 
			Sat, 17 January 2004 14:45    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| gibberish |   if someone makes a one shot kill of a tank or a high level character and they are not Sakura or Havoc they are cheating which means you can ban them without any lingering doubts.
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My brother has a great aim with a PIC and can get kills. He has even been accused of cheating because of this aim. Before you say anything I know for a fact that he doesn't cheat, he hates cheaters and if he suspects someone is cheating he lets a mod know straight away.
		
		
		
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			| Re: Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #62445] | 
			Sun, 18 January 2004 02:59    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| gibberish |   Some people have mentioned creating "Anti-Cheats" such as Small-Heads. 
 
However I was thinking that one of the best anti-cheats available is actually Final Renegade for the simply reason that it is so obvious. 
 
If someone is only running big-heads its not always clear if they are cheating, however if someone makes a one shot kill of a tank or a high level character and they are not Sakura or Havoc they are cheating which means you can ban them without any lingering doubts. 
 
For this reason I was wondering if it would be a good idea to host FR on a lot of web sites to make it really easy to get. 
 
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It's true that most cheaters are really obvious, but the problem is that there aren't always moderators online to ban them.
		
		
		
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			| Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #62474] | 
			Sun, 18 January 2004 10:27    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		This method is like getting rid of cheaters by flooding the community with cheats. 
 
Its very ineffective, and might just flop.
		
		
		
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			| Re: Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #62581] | 
			Mon, 19 January 2004 05:10    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| gibberish |   Some people have mentioned creating "Anti-Cheats" such as Small-Heads. 
 
However I was thinking that one of the best anti-cheats available is actually Final Renegade for the simply reason that it is so obvious. 
 
If someone is only running big-heads its not always clear if they are cheating, however if someone makes a one shot kill of a tank or a high level character and they are not Sakura or Havoc they are cheating which means you can ban them without any lingering doubts. 
 
For this reason I was wondering if it would be a good idea to host FR on a lot of web sites to make it really easy to get. 
 
Gib
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Pass the crack pipe over here when your done with it  
		
		
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			| Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #63328] | 
			Fri, 23 January 2004 11:51    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		I am not certain, but I think the numbers you see for anyone running WOLSpy are not correct. 
 
I believe that the player count in WOL does not reflect any GameSpy players that are in the game (Hence there will be less players listed). 
 
And the player count in GameSpy is the count when WOLSpy was started (It doesn't update the statistics). 
 
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			| Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #63330] | 
			Fri, 23 January 2004 12:12    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		Well, yeah. The wol stats seem to be messed up. The declined by ~35-50% since last week. It would seem that Renegade has lost 50% of the players in the last week, and that's just not possible, so I assume somethings wrong with WOL here. 
 
The wolspy servers are counted as GSA servers. Any server both listed on WOL and GSA is counted twice. This is just a very crude statistics to know how many people the RenGuard Network has to support when it's done..
		
		
 
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			| Final Renegade as an Anti-Cheat [message #65802] | 
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IRON-FART wrote: 
This method is like getting rid of cheaters by flooding the community with cheats. 
 
Its very ineffective, and might just flop. 
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More like saying "the only way to get the porn off the net is to download it all"
		
		
		
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