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| Re: sign my petition to EA to open-source Renegade [message #493688 is a reply to message #439059] |
Sat, 01 March 2025 04:13   |
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Things have changed a LOT since 2010. The OG renegade source code being open source is much less of a problem now because of the TT patch (which isn't open source) and its various anti-cheat systems.
Jonathan Wilson aka Jonwil
Creator and Lead Coder of the Custom scripts.dll
Renegade Engine Guru
Creator and Lead Coder of TT.DLL
Official member of Tiberian Technologies
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| Re: sign my petition to EA to open-source Renegade [message #493704 is a reply to message #493688] |
Sat, 05 April 2025 17:22 |
indios
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jonwil wrote on Sat, 01 March 2025 04:13Things have changed a LOT since 2010. The OG renegade source code being open source is much less of a problem now because of the TT patch (which isn't open source) and its various anti-cheat systems.
after all the titanig work you and the other guys have done over the years.. does this sourse code added rally iportant stuf to the table or most if not all of worth you have already reverse ingeniering by now?
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| Re: sign my petition to EA to open-source Renegade [message #493708 is a reply to message #493707] |
Tue, 22 April 2025 15:40 |
Tunaman
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I've seen that logic before. But technically, isn't all of TT code a derivative work already? Albeit a derivative work of the version of the game that wasn't GPL licensed.
Given how high profile the TT patches are, I'm assuming that some sort of permission was granted to distribute them.
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| Re: sign my petition to EA to open-source Renegade [message #493709 is a reply to message #439059] |
Mon, 28 April 2025 17:03 |
iRANian
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They were gifted the parts of the original Renegade source code around 2009 by Apoc. And they RE'd most of the other code.
No one can tell if they use the GPL'd source code or not, if they just rename some things inside the fuctions (e.g. variables) and use slightly different control statements no one can tell if it's RE'd code or GPL code.
It's stupid to act as if it's a real issue.
Long time and well respected Renegade community member, programmer, modder and tester.
Scripts 4.0 private beta tester since May 2011.
My Renegade server plugins releases
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| Re: sign my petition to EA to open-source Renegade [message #493711 is a reply to message #493709] |
Thu, 01 May 2025 13:19 |
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Jerad2142
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iRANian wrote on Mon, 28 April 2025 18:03They were gifted the parts of the original Renegade source code around 2009 by Apoc. And they RE'd most of the other code.
No one can tell if they use the GPL'd source code or not, if they just rename some things inside the fuctions (e.g. variables) and use slightly different control statements no one can tell if it's RE'd code or GPL code.
It's stupid to act as if it's a real issue.
I mean, we already had a leak once, so if it happened again and there was GPL'd code from the open source release then it'd be super easy to prove at that point.
Even ignoring that I believe over the years they have used disassembly that is close enough to the original code to justify reason to aquire private source code bases (not EA just in general).
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