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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416535 is a reply to message #416489] | Sat, 02 January 2010 15:56   |  
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				|  |  nikki6ixx Messages: 2545
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	| | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416537 is a reply to message #414997] | Sat, 02 January 2010 15:59   |  
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					|  InternetThug Messages: 1036
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	| Dover why are you sucking n00bstories hypothetical cock?  Need some place with room for your double chins?  Btw nice Azazel as mod at that community. Nice! |  
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416566 is a reply to message #416537] | Sun, 03 January 2010 01:28   |  
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				|  |  Goztow Messages: 9761
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	| | Ralph wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 23:59 |  | Dover why are you sucking n00bstories hypothetical cock?  Need some place with room for your double chins?
 
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 totally uncalled for. stop the ad hominem. first and last warning.
 
 You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416628 is a reply to message #416627] | Sun, 03 January 2010 18:03   |  
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				|  |  Ethenal Messages: 2532
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	| | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:57 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 16:49 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:24 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 14:56 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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 How disillusioning.
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 Hey, it's OK to run a double standard; that's been pretty normal around this joint for a while now. Just don't go calling out others, because there's plenty of dirt to go around.
 
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 Is this some kind of subtle reference to that Dead6re guy and his little incident?
 
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 Subtle? You must not know... man, this thread writes itself.
 
 
 | -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29 |  | Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade
   
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416629 is a reply to message #416628] | Sun, 03 January 2010 18:17   |  
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				|  |  Dover Messages: 2547
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	| | Ethenal wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 17:03 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:57 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 16:49 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:24 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 14:56 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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 How disillusioning.
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 Hey, it's OK to run a double standard; that's been pretty normal around this joint for a while now. Just don't go calling out others, because there's plenty of dirt to go around.
 
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 Is this some kind of subtle reference to that Dead6re guy and his little incident?
 
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 Subtle? You must not know... man, this thread writes itself.
 
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 No, I don't. It was kept pretty hush hush and I don't deal too much in server politics, especially back when I was actually playing this game.
 
 
 | DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |  | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
 
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416659 is a reply to message #416627] | Mon, 04 January 2010 01:43   |  
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				|  |  EvilWhiteDragon Messages: 3751
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	| | Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 01:57 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 16:49 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:24 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 14:56 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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 How disillusioning.
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 Hey, it's OK to run a double standard; that's been pretty normal around this joint for a while now. Just don't go calling out others, because there's plenty of dirt to go around.
 
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 Is this some kind of subtle reference to that Dead6re guy and his little incident?
 
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 As far as I know we dealt with Dead6re properly. As soon as we found out that he cheated we let everyone know, and when we found the backdoor he created we removed that piece of software from our webspace.
 
 
  BlackIntel admin/founder/PR dude (not a coder)
 Please visit http://www.blackintel.org/
 
 
 | V, V for Vendetta |  | People should not be afraid of their governments.
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416759 is a reply to message #416659] | Mon, 04 January 2010 21:06   |  
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				|  |  Dover Messages: 2547
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	| | EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 00:43 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 01:57 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 16:49 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:24 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 14:56 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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 How disillusioning.
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 Hey, it's OK to run a double standard; that's been pretty normal around this joint for a while now. Just don't go calling out others, because there's plenty of dirt to go around.
 
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 Is this some kind of subtle reference to that Dead6re guy and his little incident?
 
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 As far as I know we dealt with Dead6re properly. As soon as we found out that he cheated we let everyone know, and when we found the backdoor he created we removed that piece of software from our webspace.
 
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 That's what I thought too. The whole thing seemed rather public and transparant, which is the reason I know about it at all in the first place.
 
 Unless someone knows better than I do...?
 
 
 | DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |  | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
 
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416766 is a reply to message #414997] | Mon, 04 January 2010 21:58   |  
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				|  |  slosha Messages: 1540
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	| I fail to see why this thread is as great as some of you said it is. Maybe it's because I didn't read the rest after my posts until now.   
 Moral of this thread: People need to realize Renegade Forums is no place to talk about getting banned.
 
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416770 is a reply to message #416759] | Tue, 05 January 2010 00:22   |  
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				|  |  EvilWhiteDragon Messages: 3751
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	| | Dover wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 05:06 |  | 
 | EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 00:43 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 01:57 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 16:49 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:24 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 14:56 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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 How disillusioning.
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 Hey, it's OK to run a double standard; that's been pretty normal around this joint for a while now. Just don't go calling out others, because there's plenty of dirt to go around.
 
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 Is this some kind of subtle reference to that Dead6re guy and his little incident?
 
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 As far as I know we dealt with Dead6re properly. As soon as we found out that he cheated we let everyone know, and when we found the backdoor he created we removed that piece of software from our webspace.
 
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 That's what I thought too. The whole thing seemed rather public and transparant, which is the reason I know about it at all in the first place.
 
 Unless someone knows better than I do...?
 
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 There are others one could think off probably, but those persons are directly either loved by admins or admins...
 
 
  BlackIntel admin/founder/PR dude (not a coder)
 Please visit http://www.blackintel.org/
 
 
 | V, V for Vendetta |  | People should not be afraid of their governments.
 Governments should be afraid of their people.
 
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416776 is a reply to message #416770] | Tue, 05 January 2010 01:24   |  
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				|  |  Dover Messages: 2547
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	| | EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 23:22 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Tue, 05 January 2010 05:06 |  | 
 | EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 00:43 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Mon, 04 January 2010 01:57 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 16:49 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 18:24 |  | 
 | nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 14:56 |  | 
 | Dover wrote on Sat, 02 January 2010 09:15 |  | 
 I'm still shocked that exodus is taking in known shameless lying cheaters.
 
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 You might be surprised to learn that other Ren communities have done the same. Even worse was when they ignored the cheating because they stood to gain from the cheater's know-how.
 
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 How disillusioning.
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 Hey, it's OK to run a double standard; that's been pretty normal around this joint for a while now. Just don't go calling out others, because there's plenty of dirt to go around.
 
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 Is this some kind of subtle reference to that Dead6re guy and his little incident?
 
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 As far as I know we dealt with Dead6re properly. As soon as we found out that he cheated we let everyone know, and when we found the backdoor he created we removed that piece of software from our webspace.
 
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 That's what I thought too. The whole thing seemed rather public and transparant, which is the reason I know about it at all in the first place.
 
 Unless someone knows better than I do...?
 
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 There are others one could think off probably, but those persons are directly either loved by admins or admins...
 
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 Admins love all of us equally. <3
 
 
 | DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |  | Remember kids the internet is serious business.
 
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			| Re: Good ren servers [message #416782 is a reply to message #416632] | Tue, 05 January 2010 06:11  |  
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				|  |  zeratul Messages: 1715
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	| | Chew wrote on Sun, 03 January 2010 20:16 |  | The important ideas in this thread are:
 
 1. Zeratul got banned from Jelly.
 
 1.25 The fact that he got banned from Jelly inspired him to inquire about other people's server preferences/reccomendations here.
 
 1.5 If I understand correctly, Jelly normally unbans people after a certain amount of time pending what they do to get banned in the first place.
 
 1.75 BUT Zeratul has lowered his chances of being unbanned by telling lies in the beginning.
 
 2. After IRC logs were posted showing BIATCH detecting BH Zeratul has been completely honest, which is still refreshing even though he cheated.
 
 3. Every server has their own policies (written or not) about banning people who were caught cheating on other servers. Some might always ban anyone whoever cheated anywhere, while others might sit back, watch, and wait untill the known cheater has done it on their server. Of course the sitiuation varies by the cheater (example = mandai).
 
 3.5 No server should really be questioned on their choice to ban or not unless the person actually cheated on their server. It is up to each communities staff to decide on how much of a threat to their gameplay this person is.
 
 4. If you do not agree with a servers choice in the matter of banning a known cheater, don't play there when the player is in, maybe not at all. Or maybe take it up with the staff of that server respectfully if you think they might have missed some evidence that would likely change their minds.
 
 5. No need to start a flame fest here, it obviously won't do any good.
 
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