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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414609 is a reply to message #414578] Sun, 20 December 2009 01:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so the fact that the sun enters its high-activity cycle right now (which it isnt) explains the temperature increase of the last decades retroactively! how neat!
do you even use your brain?


Yes, it is actually. It takes many years before it peaks, too. It doesn't just "activate high mode" overnight.

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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414612 is a reply to message #414275] Sun, 20 December 2009 02:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-cycles-global-warming.htm

oh man, you almost proved large parts of the climate scientists wrong with that random lie you found on a random tv show just so you dont have to change your style of living, almost!

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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414613 is a reply to message #414275] Sun, 20 December 2009 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414615 is a reply to message #414612] Sun, 20 December 2009 02:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 09:36


http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-cycles-global-warming.htm

oh man, you almost proved large parts of the climate scientists wrong with that random lie you found on a random tv show just so you dont have to change your style of living, almost!


I never once said it had anything to do with global warming, but it is true.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414617 is a reply to message #414613] Sun, 20 December 2009 03:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 03:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

bang your head against a wall. right now.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-globa l-warming.html



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surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 09:36


http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm
http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-cycles-global-warming.htm

oh man, you almost proved large parts of the climate scientists wrong with that random lie you found on a random tv show just so you dont have to change your style of living, almost!


I never once said it had anything to do with global warming, but it is true.

point taken. was mostly referring to glock Wink
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414683 is a reply to message #414617] Sun, 20 December 2009 10:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 04:02

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 03:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

bang your head against a wall. right now.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-globa l-warming.html


I'm not about to read the whole thing, but at first sight it seems to be about changing temp. in like the last few centuries. Remember, the earth is 4.5 billion years old.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414696 is a reply to message #414683] Sun, 20 December 2009 11:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 11:43

surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 04:02

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 03:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

bang your head against a wall. right now.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-globa l-warming.html


I'm not about to read the whole thing
How about you shut up then until you do?
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414719 is a reply to message #414275] Sun, 20 December 2009 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The emails didn't prove it was a scam, they showed that people were exaggerating and falsely presenting data in order to get others to take it seriously.

Climate change is real, the planet does have a higher average temperature than it did when we first started recording this data, and the polar ice caps have shrunken. Those facts are not debatable. What caused those events to occur, and what these events will cause is what's in debate. Politicians and news stations are the last places on earth you should be turning to for scientific information. If global warming is a subject you want to take seriously I suggest you educate yourself based on reliable and credible sources, not pop culture.


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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414720 is a reply to message #414683] Sun, 20 December 2009 12:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 13:43

surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 04:02

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 03:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

bang your head against a wall. right now.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-globa l-warming.html


I'm not about to read the whole thing, but at first sight it seems to be about changing temp. in like the last few centuries. Remember, the earth is 4.5 billion years old.


We can only go by what has been recorded. To move forward under the assumption that this is just a natural process that the earth is undergoing, AND that this natural process will not be harmful to us, is incredibly foolish. The other extreme is equally as foolish. The logical option is to proceed with caution until we know exactly what is causing these changes, and where these changes will lead us. Experimentation on a global scale based on the equation 'polution = bad' seems like a good way to gather information imo.


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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414726 is a reply to message #414578] Sun, 20 December 2009 13:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 20:35

R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 12:37

Bottom line:

It's true. It's not our fault. It's going to happen. Get over it.

wow, sure, JUST IGNORE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT ITS ANTHROPOLOGICAL. you stupid fuckface.

Humans ASSIST in it because of all the emissions we put out. But if Humans did not exist on this planet, then it would still happen anyway.

It is not our fault, we are only speeding it up.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414829 is a reply to message #414720] Mon, 21 December 2009 08:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renx wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 13:55

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 13:43

surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 04:02

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 03:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

bang your head against a wall. right now.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-globa l-warming.html


I'm not about to read the whole thing, but at first sight it seems to be about changing temp. in like the last few centuries. Remember, the earth is 4.5 billion years old.


We can only go by what has been recorded. To move forward under the assumption that this is just a natural process that the earth is undergoing, AND that this natural process will not be harmful to us, is incredibly foolish. The other extreme is equally as foolish. The logical option is to proceed with caution until we know exactly what is causing these changes, and where these changes will lead us. Experimentation on a global scale based on the equation 'polution = bad' seems like a good way to gather information imo.


Agreed. I'm just saying, the fact that the temp. is rising is only for a really small part caused by human pollution. The temperature has been changing way before there ever was such a thing as human pollution. Anyone remember the ice ages? Was that caused by human pollution? No. Therefore people should stop being so overdramatic about this whole thing.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414830 is a reply to message #414829] Mon, 21 December 2009 08:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 09:20

Renx wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 13:55

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 13:43

surth? / surth! wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 04:02

SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 03:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

bang your head against a wall. right now.
http://www.skepticalscience.com/Empirical-evidence-that-humans-are-causing-globa l-warming.html


I'm not about to read the whole thing, but at first sight it seems to be about changing temp. in like the last few centuries. Remember, the earth is 4.5 billion years old.


We can only go by what has been recorded. To move forward under the assumption that this is just a natural process that the earth is undergoing, AND that this natural process will not be harmful to us, is incredibly foolish. The other extreme is equally as foolish. The logical option is to proceed with caution until we know exactly what is causing these changes, and where these changes will lead us. Experimentation on a global scale based on the equation 'polution = bad' seems like a good way to gather information imo.


Agreed. I'm just saying, the fact that the temp. is rising is only for a really small part caused by human pollution. The temperature has been changing way before there ever was such a thing as human pollution. Anyone remember the ice ages? Was that caused by human pollution? No. Therefore people should stop being so overdramatic about this whole thing.

Didnt I tell you to bang your head against a wall? Why arent you doing that yet!
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414839 is a reply to message #414275] Mon, 21 December 2009 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stop being a pretentious douchebag when you have absolutely no reason to be one...
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414841 is a reply to message #414839] Mon, 21 December 2009 09:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 17:10

Stop being a pretentious douchebag when you have absolutely no reason to be one...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm stop posting false bullshit. hows that for a change.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414843 is a reply to message #414275] Mon, 21 December 2009 09:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What exactly does that article prove about the point I made? I never said humans did not exert a shitload of CO2, I also never said CO2 output does not influence global warming. All I said is, that it is not the pure cause of global warming.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414846 is a reply to message #414843] Mon, 21 December 2009 10:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 10:31

What exactly does that article prove about the point I made? I never said humans did not exert a shitload of CO2, I also never said CO2 output does not influence global warming. All I said is, that it is not the pure cause of global warming.


SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 09:20


Agreed. I'm just saying, the fact that the temp. is rising is only for a really small part caused by human pollution. The temperature has been changing way before there ever was such a thing as human pollution. Anyone remember the ice ages? Was that caused by human pollution? No. Therefore people should stop being so overdramatic about this whole thing.


SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 09:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

how many personalities do you have?

btw:

Quote:

But it's not really something we should fear either.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-positives-negatives.htm
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414855 is a reply to message #414275] Mon, 21 December 2009 11:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Surth, wtf happened to you LOL


He had sex with me...a lot. Wink


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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414894 is a reply to message #414841] Mon, 21 December 2009 19:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 12:18

SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 17:10

Stop being a pretentious douchebag when you have absolutely no reason to be one...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm stop posting false bullshit. hows that for a change.


The difference is a significantly smaller portion of the planet is covered in forests compared to before, so less of both nature and human's CO2 emissions are being filtered.


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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414931 is a reply to message #414894] Tue, 22 December 2009 07:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Renx wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 20:22

surth? / surth! wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 12:18

SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 17:10

Stop being a pretentious douchebag when you have absolutely no reason to be one...

http://www.skepticalscience.com/human-co2-smaller-than-natural-emissions.htm stop posting false bullshit. hows that for a change.


The difference is a significantly smaller portion of the planet is covered in forests compared to before, so less of both nature and human's CO2 emissions are being filtered.


less trees would also mean less emissions by nature, it would roughly be kept in check.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414949 is a reply to message #414578] Tue, 22 December 2009 10:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 19:35

luv2pb wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 18:02

It snowed during the global warming talks.

I lol'd
ITS SNOWING? IN DECEMBER? IN COPENHAGEN? HOLY COW YOUVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME CALL AL GORE HE WAS WRONG ALL THESE YEARS. asshat.

Wow.

facepalm


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Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #414951 is a reply to message #414949] Tue, 22 December 2009 10:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Tue, 22 December 2009 11:39

surth? / surth! wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 19:35

luv2pb wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 18:02

It snowed during the global warming talks.

I lol'd
ITS SNOWING? IN DECEMBER? IN COPENHAGEN? HOLY COW YOUVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME CALL AL GORE HE WAS WRONG ALL THESE YEARS. asshat.

Wow.

facepalm

just overreacting a bit:)
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #415086 is a reply to message #414846] Wed, 23 December 2009 08:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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surth? / surth! wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 11:12

SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 10:31

What exactly does that article prove about the point I made? I never said humans did not exert a shitload of CO2, I also never said CO2 output does not influence global warming. All I said is, that it is not the pure cause of global warming.


SSADMVR wrote on Mon, 21 December 2009 09:20


Agreed. I'm just saying, the fact that the temp. is rising is only for a really small part caused by human pollution. The temperature has been changing way before there ever was such a thing as human pollution. Anyone remember the ice ages? Was that caused by human pollution? No. Therefore people should stop being so overdramatic about this whole thing.


SSADMVR wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 09:47

It's not a scam. But it's not really something we should fear either. It's nature. Temperature increases and decreases have been on this planet since over 9000 years.

how many personalities do you have?



Plenty.
Re: Global Warming: Real or Fraud [message #415110 is a reply to message #414726] Wed, 23 December 2009 12:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 14:47

surth? / surth! wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 20:35

R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 12:37

Bottom line:

It's true. It's not our fault. It's going to happen. Get over it.

wow, sure, JUST IGNORE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT ITS ANTHROPOLOGICAL. you stupid fuckface.

Humans ASSIST in it because of all the emissions we put out. But if Humans did not exist on this planet, then it would still happen anyway.

It is not our fault, we are only speeding it up.



the earth will eventually go into another ice age. Earth gets hit with thousands of ice comets every day increasing the water level to like am inch a year. Humans produce a ridiculous amount of harmful emissions and garbage. Humans should be more worried about the garbage we produce then the emissions we but in the atmosphere.


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Gen_Blacky wrote on Wed, 23 December 2009 11:27

R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 20 December 2009 14:47

surth? / surth! wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 20:35

R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 19 December 2009 12:37

Bottom line:

It's true. It's not our fault. It's going to happen. Get over it.

wow, sure, JUST IGNORE ALL THE EVIDENCE THAT ITS ANTHROPOLOGICAL. you stupid fuckface.

Humans ASSIST in it because of all the emissions we put out. But if Humans did not exist on this planet, then it would still happen anyway.

It is not our fault, we are only speeding it up.





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