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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273432 is a reply to message #273304]

Sun, 15 July 2007 14:33

CarrierII
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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273445 is a reply to message #273304]

Sun, 15 July 2007 15:22

jnz
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!build, !buy is everywhere not just his server.
10 second beacons are built into rene, he didn't steal it from anyone. Making a few build and buy commands isn't hard. I don't belive kamux put a lot of effort into making them. and you can't copywrite a command, otherwise NR and BR couldn't use !help

[Updated on: Sun, 15 July 2007 15:23]

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273446 is a reply to message #273445]

Sun, 15 July 2007 15:25

BlueThen
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Do you know any other servers before kamuix's that was fully !build, !buy, etc?

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273447 is a reply to message #273446]

Sun, 15 July 2007 15:25

jnz
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BlueThen wrote on Sun, 15 July 2007 23:25

Do you know any other servers before kamuix's that was fully !build, !buy, etc?

I wasn't around then.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273448 is a reply to message #273447]

Sun, 15 July 2007 15:28

BlueThen
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I was, and there was none that I knew of.

Besides that, kam's server was fun because it had a unique mod. But when people comes in and starts asking everywhere how to do that, it really ruins the point of the uniqueness.

Because everyone is sharing this code, it'd just make the mod unfun.

Plus, he didn't only steal the 10 sec beacon and the build, and buy commands.

[Updated on: Sun, 15 July 2007 15:30]

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273634 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 09:45

jnz
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Uh hmm. So why does everyone moan when someone wont share their mod? Having more servers with a specific mod is good because players have a choice to go to a good server. For example, someone asked me to write a load of console commands for a server at the top and some other stuff EG re-buyable base defenses. I didn't copy anything, I wrote the code. Players have a new experience playing there because of the commands. It adds a new tactics and more teamwork.

I'm also writing a mod on my server which promotes teamwork, which will be released. It also includes stuff like !buy and mapping tools. Kamux has a right to keep the mod to himself, but i and anyone else has a right to write a new one that is the same. If we didn't have that right, then like i said before, NR and BR wouldn't be around.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273636 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 10:02

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Viva la Resistance!

By your logic, Bluethen, anyone who made a bot after the first one was made stole the idea...

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273657 is a reply to message #273636]

Mon, 16 July 2007 12:22

BlueThen
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Ok, I liked the mod because it's a unique. Plus, if you compare wittebolx's server with kam's, you'll notice that almost every freakin thing is practically identical. He just renamed everything and said that everything was his idea.

Having 20 different people copy the mod at the same time doesn't only ruin the mod idea for kam's server, but for everyserver because the mod wasn't actually boring.

I just hate it when people just steal things, and say that it was their idea.

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By your logic, Bluethen, anyone who made a bot after the first one was made stole the idea...

Not really. I just like to play a server and know that it's one of a kind. But when someone comes in, thinks it's cool, and thinks that he'll be cool if he hosted a server... It just makes me mad to see a lot of people running around asking how to do this and then hosting a server thinking that it'd make them "cool" and "popular".

That's really how I take it. 1 server with this kind of mod is enough.

Honestly, if you want to host a server with a fullblown mod, then don't fucking steal someone else's, think of your own.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273658 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 12:32

jnz
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Last time i checked, BR, NR and CS don't have credits in their readme saying the help command was ripped from that first bot. And I can't see anything more than !buy and !build in Kamux's server.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273660 is a reply to message #273658]

Mon, 16 July 2007 12:37

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RoShamBo wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 14:32

Last time i checked, BR, NR and CS don't have credits in their readme saying the help command was ripped from that first bot. And I can't see anything more than !buy and !build in Kamux's server.

You're comparing this to bots used for moderating and other such. This is different.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273663 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 12:48

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No, you're saying server owners are ripping from Kamux. I'm saying bots are ripping from the first bot. No one cares about that? And like i said before, it adds variation. Wittlebolx's server isn't exactly the same as Kamux's. Gives players a choice and server admins and such. Kamux just wanted players to himself, which is just like the a0~ nick problem. Having an original mod doesn't equal players anyway, the mods i made for my server arn't original and i can fill my server up pretty quickly on a075 Wink

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273669 is a reply to message #273660]

Mon, 16 July 2007 13:24

futura83
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Viva la Resistance!

BlueThen wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 20:37

RoShamBo wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 14:32

Last time i checked, BR, NR and CS don't have credits in their readme saying the help command was ripped from that first bot. And I can't see anything more than !buy and !build in Kamux's server.

You're comparing this to bots used for moderating and other such. This is different.

How about people that created a co-op/CTF/DM after someone else had a server doing it?

How about people 'copying' an in-game ladder after seeing it in a server?

Kamuix may have been the first to do !build commands, but it was only a matter of time before another server implemented it.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273674 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 13:32

jnz
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He can hardly copywrite 3 lines of code Sarcasm

if(stricmp(WideCharToChar(Msg), "!buy rave") == NULL)
{
     Change_Charater(Get_GameObj(ID), "CnC_Nod_RocketSoldier_3Boss_ALT2")
}

Ofcourse, i wouldn't actully write it like that. n00beh.

[Updated on: Mon, 16 July 2007 13:33]

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273679 is a reply to message #273674]

Mon, 16 July 2007 13:59

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Just a quick question. Wasn't Black-Cell one of the first servers to have a !buy/!build command? Or something along them lines?

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273691 is a reply to message #273679]

Mon, 16 July 2007 15:28

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I'm not saying he only copied 3 lines of code... You guys won't get it, his server is practically IDENTICAL to kam's! (the last I checked)

It's the line of text that you people can't understand!

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273692 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 15:31

jnz
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I understand it perfectly. but i didn't say it was identical. And it isn't, i know it isn't. Unless Kamux's server has !buy RoShamBo Wink

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273696 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 15:40

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It has a buy troop Thumbs Up

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273697 is a reply to message #273696]

Mon, 16 July 2007 15:42

BlueThen
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If you take a closer look at the chars and such, you'll notice how similar they are to kam's. Basically, everything is just renamed with a few extra stuff.

I still say that people should come up with their own ideas.

[Updated on: Mon, 16 July 2007 15:43]

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273699 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 15:47

jnz
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You're right, but there is nothing wrong with what he is doing.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273701 is a reply to message #273304]

Mon, 16 July 2007 16:20

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Blue if you wish to play in an unique mod, come join MP OMega AOW, we can re-build our buildings after they been destroyed for 11k.

Server has many other other mods too.

You can learn more about it here. http://www.multiplayerforums.com/index.php?showtopic=561

Am still uploading alot of the map imeages for that map, so some are out of date, but you should look at the bottom area that explains the mods.

[Updated on: Mon, 16 July 2007 16:23]

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273725 is a reply to message #273701]

Mon, 16 July 2007 21:36

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IronWarrior wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 18:20

Blue if you wish to play in an unique mod, come join MP OMega AOW, we can re-build our buildings after they been destroyed for 11k.

lol ill try it iron as soon as im back from work Big Grin

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273751 is a reply to message #273691]

Tue, 17 July 2007 01:37

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BlueThen wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 17:28

I'm not saying he only copied 3 lines of code... You guys won't get it, his server is practically IDENTICAL to kam's! (the last I checked)

It's the line of text that you people can't understand!

NOBODY CARES! that's what you don't understand.

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Re: Wittebolx C&C Mode Server [message #273770 is a reply to message #273725]

Tue, 17 July 2007 02:44

IronWarrior
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K4l3l wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 23:36

IronWarrior wrote on Mon, 16 July 2007 18:20

Blue if you wish to play in an unique mod, come join MP OMega AOW, we can re-build our buildings after they been destroyed for 11k.

lol ill try it iron as soon as im back from work Big Grin

Great one m8, make sure you have core patch or scripts 2.9.2 (or later) installed. Thumbs Up

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