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			| Snipers? [message #188814] | Tue, 07 February 2006 18:36  |  
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					|  =HT=T-Bird Messages: 712
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	| Would you play in a server where sniper units were prohibited/disabled?  (simple yes/no suffices) 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #188817 is a reply to message #188814] | Tue, 07 February 2006 18:44   |  
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	| hell ya , sorry , Yes 
 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #188882 is a reply to message #188863] | Wed, 08 February 2006 01:26   |  
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				|  | Dr. Lithius Messages: 609
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	| Pathetic as it sounds, I second this motion.  So...obviously...I vote "yes".| PointlessAmbler wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 21:44 |  | I'm really more sick of Ramjets than the 500-credit Sniper character.
 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #188912 is a reply to message #188858] | Wed, 08 February 2006 06:05   |  
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	| | Crimson wrote on Tue, 07 February 2006 22:22 |  | Absolutely not. It completely messes up the balance of the game.
 
 
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 Hourglass isn't in the map rotation and City Flying stays balanced because of PIC's and Ravs...
 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #188928 is a reply to message #188814] | Wed, 08 February 2006 09:21   |  
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				|  |  NukeIt15 Messages: 987
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	| 500 snipers are fine...they're only a 1-hit-kill potential if it's a headshot, and they aren't nearly as potent against aircraft. 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #188996 is a reply to message #188814] | Wed, 08 February 2006 17:13   |  
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				|  | Dr. Lithius Messages: 609
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	| I gotta ask...  What was Westwood intending for the Ramjet Rifle?  Did they just want to make a Super Sniper Rifle of sorts, or did they want to make some sort of psycho-extreme-range-anti-light vehicle gun with it as well?  If the former, why not mount a scope on Personal Ion Cannons and Railguns, and if the latter, why did they goof on the Light Armor so badly?  Time constraints? |  
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189003 is a reply to message #188814] | Wed, 08 February 2006 18:15   |  
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				|  |  csskiller Messages: 522
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	| Too bad it's not possible (maybe it is I don't know) to reduce the damage for shooting the main part of the vehicle, but keep it the same for say the windows and doors. 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189032 is a reply to message #188814] | Wed, 08 February 2006 20:06   |  
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				|  |  Feetseek Messages: 239
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	| err... i use ramjets(maybe im a NOOB), but i like using them since they have more armor and can take more damage. 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189077 is a reply to message #188814] | Wed, 08 February 2006 22:41   |  
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				|  |  Dave Anderson Messages: 1953
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	| | Quote: |  | I gotta ask... What was Westwood intending for the Ramjet Rifle? Did they just want to make a Super Sniper Rifle of sorts, or did they want to make some sort of psycho-extreme-range-anti-light vehicle gun with it as well? If the former, why not mount a scope on Personal Ion Cannons and Railguns, and if the latter, why did they goof on the Light Armor so badly? Time constraints?
 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189083 is a reply to message #189077] | Wed, 08 February 2006 23:44   |  
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					|  pujols005 Messages: 15
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	| Sniper here too but I use mostly 500 now 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189110 is a reply to message #188814] | Thu, 09 February 2006 05:57   |  
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				|  |  Goztow Messages: 9761
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	| No, messes up balance, just like changing objects.dbb does. 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189169 is a reply to message #188814] | Thu, 09 February 2006 13:34   |  
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				|  | [NE]Fobby[GEN] Messages: 1377
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	| I think an infantry-only game without snipers would be pretty fun... If you've ever played a DM map, most people just choose snipers, and it isn't very interesting. 
 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189173 is a reply to message #189169] | Thu, 09 February 2006 13:37   |  
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					|  pujols005 Messages: 15
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	| I guess it would depend on what you consider interesting. Personally, I find sniping in infantry games to be pretty fun, but thats just me. I can see where you are coming from though, sometimes, when I wasn't a sniper yet, I hated playing against a ton of snipers. But sniping with a 500 sniper can be very, very fun. 
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			| Re: Snipers? [message #189184 is a reply to message #188814] | Thu, 09 February 2006 14:10   |  
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	| I wouldn't miss snipers if they left the game, especially since "sniper wars" usually turn out to be a big jumpfest of retardation where the laggiest and luckiest player gets all the kills. 
 
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