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			| Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160343] | Thu, 16 June 2005 16:18  |  
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				|  |  spazbeast Messages: 199
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	| Do you believe it is true? 
 Electronic voice phenomenon is the alleged communication by spirits through tape recorders and other electronic devices.
 
 I do not believe heres why
 
 Perception is a very complex process, and when our brains try to find patterns, they are guided in part by what we expect to hear. If you are trying to hear your friend while conversing in a noisy room, your brain automatically takes snippets of sound and compares them against possible corresponding words, and guided by context, we can often "hear" more clearly than the sound patterns reaching our ears could account for. Indeed, it is relatively easy to demonstrate in a psychology laboratory that people can readily come to hear "clearly" even very muffled voices, so long as they have a printed version in front of them that tells them what words are being spoken. The brain puts together the visual cue and the auditory input, and we actually "hear" what we are informed is being said, even though without that information, we could discern nothing. Going one step further, and we can demonstrate that people can clearly "hear" voices and words not just in the context of muddled voices, but in a pattern of white noise, a pattern in which there are no voices or words at all.
 
 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160357 is a reply to message #160343] | Thu, 16 June 2005 16:51   |  
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	| I never did see that movie, and I can't say I have ever tried this. 
 Has any one here ever given it a go? Does it ever work?
 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160360 is a reply to message #160343] | Thu, 16 June 2005 17:01   |  
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				|  |  GoArmy44 Messages: 265
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	| | spazbeast wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 18:48 |  | Do you believe it is true?
 
 Electronic voice phenomenon is the alleged communication by spirits through tape recorders and other electronic devices.
 
 I do not believe heres why
 
 Perception is a very complex process, and when our brains try to find patterns, they are guided in part by what we expect to hear. If you are trying to hear your friend while conversing in a noisy room, your brain automatically takes snippets of sound and compares them against possible corresponding words, and guided by context, we can often "hear" more clearly than the sound patterns reaching our ears could account for. Indeed, it is relatively easy to demonstrate in a psychology laboratory that people can readily come to hear "clearly" even very muffled voices, so long as they have a printed version in front of them that tells them what words are being spoken. The brain puts together the visual cue and the auditory input, and we actually "hear" what we are informed is being said, even though without that information, we could discern nothing. Going one step further, and we can demonstrate that people can clearly "hear" voices and words not just in the context of muddled voices, but in a pattern of white noise, a pattern in which there are no voices or words at all.
 
 
 
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 I agree. In my opinion this is very similar to the so called backwards satanic messages in songs.
 
 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160366 is a reply to message #160343] | Thu, 16 June 2005 18:05   |  
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	| I've picked up cell phone calls on my guitar amp before. 
 But no, it wasn't ghosts.
 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160372 is a reply to message #160360] | Thu, 16 June 2005 18:58   |  
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	| | GoArmy44 wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 20:01 |  | I agree. In my opinion this is very similar to the so called backwards satanic messages in songs.
 
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 Yeah, i agree with that, but Ozzy DOES have something wrong with him. And Alice Cooper is just plain nuts. Albeit both rock(No pun intended), they still are a tad out there.
 
 
  
  
 | Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |  | I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160375 is a reply to message #160343] | Thu, 16 June 2005 19:09   |  
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	| I read up on EVP before the movie came out. I tried it at Chappell Hill North Carolina. I can honestly say it could be possible. I KNOW i was alone, but yet, i walked away with results. 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160377 is a reply to message #160343] | Thu, 16 June 2005 19:22   |  
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	| Actually, i feel that if Ozzy really wanted everyone to kill themselves, he could just announce it on TV. Hell, i wouldnt do it, but i would contemplate it. 
 
  
  
 | Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 31 May 2006 22:30 |  | I've been Nodbuggered. =( =( =(
 
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			| Re: Electronic Voice Phenominon [message #160392 is a reply to message #160366] | Thu, 16 June 2005 22:01   |  
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	| | SuperFlyingEngi wrote on Thu, 16 June 2005 21:05 |  | I've picked up cell phone calls on my guitar amp before.
 
 But no, it wasn't ghosts.
 
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 Same here.  I was playing a show somewhere around the city once and i started pickin' up shit on my amp while my friend (the singer) was talkin into the mic between songs.  I got real confused and went up to the guy with the P.A. and got into this argument about them having reverb on the speakers cuz the voices coming through on my amp sounded like echoes of her talking.
 
 But no, no ghosts.  I've seen those fuckin' ghost shows on tv though, and that shit ALWAYS scares me to death without fail.  Even on like ABC's Discovery Kid's ghost specials or somethin' where it's directed towards 10 year olds.  That stuff always got to me in that frighteningly intriguing way.
 
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