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			| Just curious [message #155342] | Thu, 19 May 2005 17:54   |  
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	| There are over 8000 unique players (by serial hash) who use RenGuard in a given week. If you want to be generous and say that half of all Renegade players are on RG, then that makes about 16,000 players. If you want to be less optimistic and say only 10% of Renegade players are RG users, then there are about 80,000 people still playing Renegade. 
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			| Just curious [message #155359] | Thu, 19 May 2005 23:04   |  
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				|  | Spice Messages: 1448
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	| I've been playing the game around 7 months after the release. Once I joined these forums I got more into making maps and models for the game than actually playing it. 
 
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			| Just curious [message #155364] | Fri, 20 May 2005 00:27   |  
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	| You all just LOOOOVE to estimate when I have actual hard figures. 
 In the last 24 hours, there have been 3679 unique serials.
 48 hours: 4673
 72 hours: 5310
 1 week: 7448
 Since April 14, 2005 (little over a month): 13156 unique users
 
 It's NOT 12,000 in all of Renegade. Note that these are JUST RenGuard users, so based on my figures that only about 50% of Renegade players use RenGuard, that would mean there are at least 26,000 players left.
 
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			| Just curious [message #155387] | Fri, 20 May 2005 06:30   |  
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					|  idebo Messages: 390
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	| Till how much do the WOL ranks go up? 20000? When the ranks are reset, most people count as a "recruit". That means there are still more that 20000 right? Then we haven't even counted the GSA players yet... |  
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			| Just curious [message #155388] | Fri, 20 May 2005 06:37   |  
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					|  WinterFresh Messages: 33
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	| Ok I've seen some other posts about things an softwares that are usefull for Renegade, but that was a long list and I couldn't figure out what I needed and what was crap. 
 What's the basic thing I need to play Renegade now a days? Patch, RenGuard and that's it?
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			| Just curious [message #155391] | Fri, 20 May 2005 07:03   |  
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	| | WinterFresh |  | Ok I've seen some other posts about things an softwares that are usefull for Renegade, but that was a long list and I couldn't figure out what I needed and what was crap.
 
 What's the basic thing I need to play Renegade now a days? Patch, RenGuard and that's it?
 
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 Core Patch 1 too. If you want to keep up.
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			| Just curious [message #155431] | Fri, 20 May 2005 15:02   |  
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	| | Aircraftkiller |  | How many of them are using warez or bought another copy to get past server bans? How many are the same person?
 
 Unique serial hashes don't really mean too much. It's probably more like 90% of players now have to use RG or they can't play anymore, and end up leaving.
 
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 You are talking about the exception and not the rule. Do you honestly believe that there's a significant amount of people who have to use dozens of different serial hashes within a 40-odd day span? I would put the number of serials that artificially inflate the number of users at less than 0.1%. In fact, since each serial can be connected to WOL twice, I would say the number of users is actually a little higher. I know here at my house, we have two serials for four computers and three players.
 
 It's very difficult to argue with the actual numbers, I'm honestly surprised you're still trying.
 
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			| Just curious [message #155436] | Fri, 20 May 2005 15:16   |  
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	| That is EXACTLY the question I answered. Maybe you should read it again. 
 The nickname question is irrelevant because I didn't do a query for unique nicknames. I did a query for unique serial hashes.
 
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			| Just curious [message #155453] | Fri, 20 May 2005 15:40   |  
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					|  flyingfox Messages: 1612
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	| We could have many major servers keeping logs of all unique player IDs joining their servers too....if they logged them for a month, then posted them, along with the data from renguard, we might get an estimate of how many people play renegade online per month. |  
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			| Just curious [message #155462] | Fri, 20 May 2005 16:58   |  
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	| Nope. if you can remember your username, just brainstorm the password over and over till you get it right. remember, it's 8 characters exactly |  
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			| Just curious [message #155480] | Fri, 20 May 2005 20:27   |  
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	| | Aircraftkiller |  | Then why assume that Renegade has a huge fanbase behind it still? It's kind of hard to extrapolate data like that based on one perspective.
 
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 12,000 is big enough for me to still give a damn about. Isn't "huge" a matter of opinion anyway, or a matter of relativity? It's still more people than the number that give a shit about anything you do or I do.
 
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			| Just curious [message #155487] | Fri, 20 May 2005 21:56   |  
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	| 12,000... Lets put that in perspective.  A small town has about 12,000 people in it.  12,000 is by no means a small number.  Renegade has the population of a small town playing it. 
 
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			| Just curious [message #155504] | Sat, 21 May 2005 01:19   |  
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	| | tooncy |  | 12,000... Lets put that in perspective.  A small town has about 12,000 people in it.  12,000 is by no means a small number.  Renegade has the population of a small town playing it.
 
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 Steampowered.com:
 
 Average unique users per month: 2,335,749
 
 current	min	max
 n Player Count	139,840 	60,439 	180,156
 n Server Count	87,405 	46,189 	87,934
 
 This is at 1:12 AM. That count blows Renegade away.
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