| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153923] | 
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						Dave Anderson
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		Quick help with BrenBot please. 
 
#--Start Configuration-IRC----------------------------------------------------------------- 
# Edit the information below for your setup. 
# At least edit BotName and IrcChannel. 
 
BotName = dark1462 
BotFullName = darksbot 
IrcServer = irc.MPclan.net 
IrcPort = 6668 
IrcChannel = #darks 
 
#---Q/NickServ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
 
# Enable auth via "Q" or "Nickserv" below. Sample input is shown. 
Qauth = 0 
Qusername = dark1462	 
Qpassword = **** 
# Note for Nickserv auth you give the name of nickserv and the full ident string as example 
Nickservauth = 1 
Nickservname = #darks 
Nickservauth = identify RenBot01 mypassword 
 
#--Windows or Linux----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
# BotMode MUST be "WIN32" for windows servers, or "LFDS" for Linux servers. 
 
BotMode = WIN32 
 
#--Remote Admin Settings------------------------------------------------------------------ 
# The next 3 lines should be the same info that is in your server.ini 
# Note: Although it says "Linux" its the same for Win32   
 
RenRemLinuxHost = 127.0.0.1 
RenRemLinuxPort = 12345 
RenRemLinuxPassword = yourpass 
 
#--FDS Installation----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
# Verify these paths are correct with your Renegade installation. 
# Note: FDSLogFilePath must end with the trailing slash (as example below)!! 
# Note: Linux users use forward slashes (/) in your paths. 
 
FDSConfigFile = C:\Program Files\Games\Westwood\RenegadeFDS\Server\Data\svrcfg_cnc.ini 
FDSLogFilePath = C:\Program Files\Games\Westwood\RenegadeFDS\Server\ 
 
#--Miscellaneous Settings----------------------------------------------------------------- 
# Every x minutes the bot will announce a random line from AutoAnnounceFile. 
AutoAnnounceInterval = 600 
# LadderLookup currently not working. Do not turn it on or it will hang the bot. 
EnableLadderLookup = 0 
# Set this to 0 or anything but 1 to disable voting. 
VotingEnabled = 1 
# How long people get to place votes.  Default here is 60 seconds. 
VotingPeriod = 60 
# Set vehicle kick to 1 for Sniper servers 
VehicleKick = 0 
 
#--BR Configuration Files---------------------------------------------------------------- 
# BR Config Files - You shouldn't have to change these names. You can still open them with notepad. 
AutoAnnounceFile = autoannounce.brf 
Messagesfile = messages.brf 
AdminsFile = admins.brf 
MastersFile = masters.brf 
KickLogFile = kicklog.brf 
BanLogfile = banlog.brf 
 
 
# Generate_Gamespy_Queries = 1 
 
# Generate independant gamespy queries, instead of quering the orginal GSA UDP Query 
# handler. In WOL Mode, you don't have one. 
 
# GameSpyQueryPort = 23500 
 
# The query handler listens on this port 
 
# Broadcast_Server_To_Gamespy = 1 
 
# Broadcast the query handler to gamespy. 
# If you enable this, YOU NEED TO SET "GameSpyQueryPort=<value>" in server.ini to 0!!!! 
# BRENBOT WILL BEHAVE BADLY IF YOU DO NOT DO THIS! 
 
# Gamelog / Donate Settings 
 
 
# Donate is tied to gamelog, because bhs.dll causes to crash the fds, when a player 
# tries to donate to a player, which has not loaded the game yet. with gamelog, brenbot 
# can find out, if a player has loaded the map. you can disable it here.  
# BEWARE! PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO CRASH YOUR SERVER! 
 
# Seperate_Donate_From_Gamelog = 1 
 
# Delete gamelog files instead of archiving it. Normally, brenbot archives it. 
 
# Delete_Gamelog_Files = 1 
 
#--End Configuration----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
 
 
What is wrong in the configuration that is not working?
		
		
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Founder, Software Consultant 
DCOM Productions 
Microsoft Partner (MSP)
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153924] | 
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		I use RenGuard for Clan Matches and that is it.  Half RG servers in my opinion are a waste.  People can still cheat on them and as it has been pointed out;  !forcerg is used on everyone who is good, as opposed to everyone who cheats.  My clan server does not use RG and that is how we like it.  As long as the moderators can tell the difference between cheating and skill you don't need RG.  If you do catch someone cheating, ban them, who cares about making them use RG.
		
		
		
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			| The problem with Full RG [message #153939] | 
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		The biggest problem I see with Full RG is when either the RG servers or that @#$# SSC goes spastic and kicks all the players in the server that actually have RG. After one of these episodes the server remains empty for hours. I would probably  run run a full RG server if this didn't happen.
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153942] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 03:33    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		I still fail to see how RG can affect your gameplay so drastically.
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153946] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 04:57    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| Homey |   I still fail to see how RG can affect your gameplay so drastically.
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People with slow comps probly do, but people with slow comps still now also use Norton and that kind of stuff wich realy brings down a comp. 
 
 
The 1.3 Version of RG hardly brings down my fps. (Not noticable for sure) 
And when the sfps = good myn fps is good too. 
 
if the sfps is between 10 and 20. My pc will go down to that kind of fps too
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153952] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 05:34    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		Oh I believe it lags the computer i'm on right now, I get hottible fps anyways so I don't get accused. But this is a 1.8 (not bad for ren really) but 256mb ram with norton and all kinds of other shit that isn't mine running - it lags. He has 2gb ram and 2.8ghz so it doesnt make sense.
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153954] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 05:40    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| JPNOD |   people with slow comps still now also use Norton and that kind of stuff wich realy brings down a comp.
  |   I beg to differ. I've used "slow" computers for quite a while, and have only recently obtained a computer of any decent speed. During that time, I knew my computer inside and out and was able to optimize it for the best speeds possible. It's not so much the computer that's slow as it is the user that's using it. Anyone can use slow and unoptimized programs (in fact, many people do). 
 
| Homey |   Oh I believe it lags the computer i'm on right now, I get hottible fps anyways so I don't get accused. But this is a 1.8 (not bad for ren really) but 256mb ram with norton and all kinds of other shit that isn't mine running - it lags. He has 2gb ram and 2.8ghz so it doesnt make sense.
  |   Is it 256MB RAM or 2 GB RAM? In either case, are you sure you've got the latest drivers? You'd be amazed how much they could boost your framerate.
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153956] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 05:48    | 
		 
		
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		| deadfive |   Lol, you crack me up. 
 
System specs since a month ago: 
 
Intel pentium 4 2.8GHz at 800FSB 
2GB Dual channel ram 
128 MB ATI Radeon 9200SE 
500GB RAID Hard drive 
Comcast internet at 4MB 
 
those are just the important items...
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You can play with 128mbram, pentium 3 800 and 20GB disc with a geforce 2 mx... And Renguard won't be a problem... It depends of your upload and download rate. It's not about your computer speed. 
 
My computer: 
 
PC Specifications : 
CPU: AMD ATHLON XP 3200+  
Motherboard: ASUS A7N8X Deluxe  
Monitor: 19 inch Proview Monitor  
Video Card: Geforce 6800 GT 256 mb DDR3  
Sound / Speakers: Nvidia N-force 2 SOUNDSTORM  
Mouse / Pad: MS Optical Mouse  
Memory: 1024mb DDR 
HDD: 7200rpm/120GB 
 
I had problem with renguard before, and then I fixed my settings for my wireless router, now everything is fine. 
 
So I would say : Check your internet settings, modem/router settings and then all will be fine.  
 
If you have an upload that is at least 10kb and a download that is at least 20kb... No problem for renguard but again, you have to check your connection settings. 
 
That's all. 
 
(And I don't believe your pc specs... It's unrealistic to have a such computer that cost so much and having a fucking 9200 SE on it... Plz make a screenshot with the command : dxdiag.exe  , thank you) 
 
 
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153961] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 06:13    | 
		 
		
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System Information 
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Time of this report: 5/11/2005, 14:56:26 
       Machine name: ATHLON 
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2  
           Language: French (Regional Setting: French) 
System Manufacturer: ASUSTeK Computer INC. 
       System Model: A7N8X2.0 
               BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG 
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) XP 3200+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.2GHz 
             Memory: 1024MB RAM 
          Page File: 215MB used, 2247MB available 
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS 
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904) 
DX Setup Parameters: Not found 
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode 
 
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DxDiag Notes 
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  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found. 
      Display Tab 1: No problems found. 
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found. 
          Music Tab: No problems found. 
          Input Tab: No problems found. 
        Network Tab: No problems found. 
 
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Display Devices 
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT 
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA 
        Chip type: GeForce 6800 GT 
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC 
   Display Memory: 256.0 MB 
     Current Mode: 1024 x 768 (32 bit) (60Hz) 
          Monitor: Écran Plug-and-Play 
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200 
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll 
   Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6693 (English) 
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher) 
Driver Attributes: Final Retail 
 Driver Date/Size: 10/29/2004 17:50:00, 3736704 bytes 
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes 
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a 
              VDD: n/a 
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys 
    Mini VDD Date: 10/29/2004 17:50:00, 2826944 bytes 
Registry: OK 
     DDraw Status: Enabled 
       D3D Status: Enabled 
       AGP Status: Enabled 
 
 
 
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USB Devices 
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+ Concentrateur USB racine 
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x10DE, 0x0067 
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub 
| Service: usbhub 
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:44, 57600 bytes 
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/28/2001 12:00:00, 4736 bytes 
 
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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives 
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      Drive: C: 
 Free Space: 54.7 GB 
Total Space: 117.2 GB 
File System: NTFS 
      Model: Maxtor 6Y120L0 
 
      Drive: D: 
      Model: HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-4082B 
 
 
      Drive: E: 
      Model: HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4520B 
  
 
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System Devices 
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     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 Memory Controller 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 Ultra 400 Memory Controller 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 AGP Host to PCI Bridge 
     Name: Pont CPU hôte standard PCI 
     Name: Contrôleurs hôte IEEE 1394 compatible OHCI 
     Name: Pont PCI vers PCI standard PCI 
     Name: Pont PCI vers PCI standard PCI 
     Name: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) MCP Audio Processing Unit 
     Name: NVIDIA(R) nForce(TM) Audio Codec Interface 
     Name: NVIDIA PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller 
     Name: Contrôleur hôte USB OpenHCD standard 
     Name: Contrôleur hôte USB OpenHCD standard 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce2 ATA Controller (v2.6) 
     Name: NVIDIA nForce PCI System Management 
     Name: Pont ISA standard PCI 
     Name: NVIDIA GeForce 6800 GT 
     Name: 3Com 3C920B-EMB Integrated Fast Ethernet Controller 
     Name: Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATARaid Controller 
     Name: U.S. Robotics 802.11g Wireless Turbo Adapter 
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153962] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 06:14    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		Any FPS above 30 is sufficient, since human eyes cant notice the difference much from frame rates above 24fps. So since you get 100fps on average, whats the big deal? If you ran RG and someone tries to use !forcerg on you, then it just goes to show that you're good, and other people will know you're good when they see you're getting all those headshots and you're running RenGuard.
		
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153964] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 06:23    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| Kanezor |  
 | JPNOD |   people with slow comps still now also use Norton and that kind of stuff wich realy brings down a comp.
  |   I beg to differ. I've used "slow" computers for quite a while, and have only recently obtained a computer of any decent speed. During that time, I knew my computer inside and out and was able to optimize it for the best speeds possible. It's not so much the computer that's slow as it is the user that's using it. Anyone can use slow and unoptimized programs (in fact, many people do). 
 
| Homey |   Oh I believe it lags the computer i'm on right now, I get hottible fps anyways so I don't get accused. But this is a 1.8 (not bad for ren really) but 256mb ram with norton and all kinds of other shit that isn't mine running - it lags. He has 2gb ram and 2.8ghz so it doesnt make sense.
  |   Is it 256MB RAM or 2 GB RAM? In either case, are you sure you've got the latest drivers? You'd be amazed how much they could boost your framerate.
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It's 256mb, doesn't matter though - going back to Canada Saturday.
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153965] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 06:24    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| Dan |   Any FPS above 30 is sufficient, since human eyes cant notice the difference much from frame rates above 24fps. So since you get 100fps on average, whats the big deal? If you ran RG and someone tries to use !forcerg on you, then it just goes to show that you're good, and other people will know you're good when they see you're getting all those headshots and you're running RenGuard.
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153977] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 08:51    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		I have 384MB of SDRAM, and a 1.5 GHZ CPU. my ping and FPS are the same when im not using it. (and im on 56k)
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153978] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 09:02    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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		ren is such a simple game compared to newer stuff..  
 
i know alot of people who have dirt computers and all they CAN play good is renegade.. even with rengaurd.. they do ok..  
 
i never got any bad play whille using RG..  
and it is the only thing to stop the haters from thinking you cheat..
		
		
 
  
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153979] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 09:29    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
				
					
						  
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		| Dan |   Any FPS above 30 is sufficient, since human eyes cant notice the difference much from frame rates above 24fps. So since you get 100fps on average, whats the big deal? If you ran RG and someone tries to use !forcerg on you, then it just goes to show that you're good, and other people will know you're good when they see you're getting all those headshots and you're running RenGuard.
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I believe that is the root point he is trying to address.  As Aircraftkiller stated previously, no person should have to use third party software for any purpose out of their own free will.  I choose not to use RenGuard; I should not be considered lower than others because of this choice.  With this state of mind in full bloom, RenGuard Users could easily create a state of mind that labels them as being the Perfect Race.  If you want some kind of confirmation that my ability to kill you is purely based on my ability to play the game and not external/internal aides, then you honestly should not be playing with the public.  Paranoia and fear only lead to destruction.  I know there are other options out there; the problem is nobody is willing to take a look at them, let alone not be immediately against them.  It's a sad state, but it just goes to show you how far this game has truly spiraled to the bottom of the barrel. 
 
Or perhaps it is just simply the average age group/level of maturity that make up the majority player base for this game.
		
		
		
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			| My opinion about Renguard. [message #153984] | 
			Wed, 11 May 2005 10:17    | 
		 
		
			
				
				
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Time of this report: 5/11/2005, 11:11:44 
        Operating System: Windows 98 (4.10, Build 2222)  A  
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English) 
System Manufacturer: n/a 
       System Model: n/a 
               BIOS: n/a 
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor,  MMX,  3DNow, ~850MHz 
             Memory: 384MB RAM 
          Page File: 173MB used, 1491MB available 
            DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
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IBM Aptiva, since it doesn't say. 
 
Without Renguard, 20 FPS guessed average 
With Renguard, 18 FPS guessed average 
(Yes, that is such a huge drop in performance) 
No lag difference.
		
		
		
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