| Patriotism [message #15200] |
Thu, 17 April 2003 14:57   |
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Blazer
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Registered: February 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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| Duke of Nukes |
EDIT: this was directed at Blazer
ok...please...stop being a thickheaded moron for 2 seconds in this whole debate. Believe it or not...but there are people against the war that know what they are talking about. Just because a guy looks strange is no reason to write him off...Einstein himself was rather odd in appearance...especially for the times.
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Agreed, although you aren't one of them. If you knew what you were talking about, you would have a definitive answer for the way you think things should be done, instead of just saying there must be another way.
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we dont know of alternatives because we dont know all the information.
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How convienient. Translation: "There must be another way...but I dont know what it is...but its not my fault, its because I havn't been told what it is...yet here I am arguing in the favor of this unknown solution"
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I'll be the first to admit that there might not be another solution...other than never giving Saddam these weapons in the first place.
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Translation: "Since I'm just arguing for the sake of arguing, I don't have a real solution, but hey thinking of Einstein makes me think of time travel, so I will suggest we go back in time to fix it!"
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I think you guys are forgetting a few things...Saddam was put into office by the USA...he was given chemical weapons from the USA. Bush had planned to go to war in Iraq since before he was even elected...
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Translation: "While I'm at it let me throw in some conspiracy theories. Anyone with half a brain can see right through them, but hopefully it will add murkiness to the waters."
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perhaps Bush is doing the right thing...but for the wrong reasons.
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Translation: "Although I hate Bush I will now throw out something good about him, in hopes that it will validate the rest of the sentence I will tack on"
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Saying that his opinion doesn't matter because he's a punk is blatantly un-American. You call yourself a patriot...then dont judge another American based on the way they wear their hair.
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I never said anything about him being punk or his hair. I was simply implying that using song lyrics, or snippets of dialog from random sources is not the way to express YOUR opinion. When you use others words, you are simply trying to use the legitimacy of that person or that persons words to add legitimacy to your own argument. I'm sure that neither PM5K nor Einstein intended for their words to be symbollic of a war they never knew would occur.
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I also find it amusing that you say people against the war are too busy flaming others to come up with an alternative to war...because it could be said that you're too busy flaming people to even look for an alternative war.
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I only say this because most of the anti-war people you talk to are either extremists who want us to have no military at all, or people who just jumped on the antiwar bandwagon and have no real views or answers. You ask them how things should be done and its "I dont know but there should be another way". How can you fight to change something when you don't know what you want it changed to? As far as me being too busy flaming people to even look for an alternative to war, I disagree. For one thing, I don't flame people. I sometimes state my opinion, mostly I provide some information and let people draw their own conclusions. If you can find any Ad Hominem posts by me please point them out (unlike your "thickheaded moron" comments).
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