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Re: Dear MPF [message #486642 is a reply to message #486639]

Wed, 05 March 2014 20:14

GenOBrien
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Registered: May 2011

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OuTSMoKE wrote on Wed, 05 March 2014 19:44

I get why you're upset, but I also get why they dumped you.

Why wouldn't you bring problems you have with Zunnie actually TO Zunnie? I bitch about shit all the time to him, he can take criticism. From an unbiased outside opinion, I would say it would probably have something more to do with you talking shit behind his back.

If you had your own server, I'm sure you would want any input to come to you, good or bad. Whether Zunnie would or would not act on it would be another discussion, but honestly, if I found out one of my mods was talking garbage about my work or the server I run, instead of bringing any issues to me was bad mouthing me to other players, I'd be a bit pissed too.

Do you go to work and tell your customers/clients/whatever that the product/service you're offering is crap? No. You'd be fired the moment your boss found out.

I don't agree with EVERYTHING the MPF team does, and I've made my opinions on certain things known directly to Zunnie/Mauler/etc. The truth is, these guys work damn hard on the server trying to update it and keep it fresh. Is everything a complete win? Of course not, but that's where trial and error comes in.

The MPF team is a good group of guys. When I didn't know jack about C++ or Bren or server stuff, other people would act like complete dicks and blow me off, but the MPF guys opened their doors to help me without question.

I wouldn't be able to update and improve my own server without guys like Zunnie, ImperialKaskins, Unknown, Neijwert, and others who were there with the help and patience I needed to get started. I know there are some in the Ren community that take issues with Zunnie & company, but in my own personal opinion and experience, they're some of the nicest people I've worked with over the MANY years in the Ren scene.

And u miss the point the completly.

The point is zunnie run MPF like a dictortship. yea they may help people. But when it comes to there server its there way or the highway.

The reason why zunnie got rid of TF2 is so he could use the TF2 box for hosting. Not sure what kind of hosting. The person who was running it didnt want to give it up. Zunnie told her to stop. Then the owner of the TF2 server left MPF.

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		Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Wed, 05 March 2014 18:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Wed, 05 March 2014 18:49
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Wed, 05 March 2014 18:52
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Wed, 05 March 2014 18:53
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Wed, 05 March 2014 18:57
		Re: Dear MPF By: shaitan on Wed, 05 March 2014 19:12
		Re: Dear MPF By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 05 March 2014 19:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: Ethenal on Wed, 05 March 2014 20:57
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Wed, 05 March 2014 19:16
		Re: Dear MPF By: OuTSMoKE on Wed, 05 March 2014 19:44
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Wed, 05 March 2014 20:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 05 March 2014 20:48
		Re: Dear MPF By: Mauler on Wed, 05 March 2014 20:53
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Thu, 06 March 2014 17:02
		Re: Dear MPF By: raven on Thu, 06 March 2014 20:00
		Re: Dear MPF By: FlaminGunz on Wed, 05 March 2014 22:54
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Wed, 05 March 2014 23:31
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Thu, 06 March 2014 01:00
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Thu, 06 March 2014 05:49
		Re: Dear MPF By: Tiny on Thu, 06 March 2014 05:09
		Re: Dear MPF By: Agent on Thu, 06 March 2014 05:41
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Thu, 06 March 2014 09:13
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Thu, 06 March 2014 13:46
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Thu, 06 March 2014 14:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Thu, 06 March 2014 05:42
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Thu, 06 March 2014 07:02
		Re: Dear MPF By: iRANian on Thu, 06 March 2014 06:51
		Re: Dear MPF By: Aircraftkiller on Thu, 06 March 2014 16:40
		Re: Dear MPF By: nikki6ixx on Thu, 06 March 2014 20:08
		Re: Dear MPF By: Wyld1USA on Thu, 06 March 2014 08:02
		Re: Dear MPF By: Ethenal on Thu, 06 March 2014 09:37
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Sat, 15 March 2014 08:42
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Sat, 15 March 2014 14:56
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Mon, 17 March 2014 10:01
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Mon, 17 March 2014 17:23
		Re: Dear MPF By: kenz3001 on Mon, 17 March 2014 18:54
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Mon, 17 March 2014 20:08
		Re: Dear MPF By: kenz3001 on Mon, 17 March 2014 20:59
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Tue, 18 March 2014 00:11
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Tue, 18 March 2014 03:22
		Re: Dear MPF By: Good-One-Driver on Thu, 06 March 2014 11:09
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Thu, 06 March 2014 12:27
		Re: Dear MPF By: crushu06 on Thu, 06 March 2014 12:44
		Re: Dear MPF By: kenz3001 on Thu, 06 March 2014 13:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Thu, 06 March 2014 13:18
		Re: Dear MPF By: iRANian on Thu, 06 March 2014 14:13
		Re: Dear MPF By: shaitan on Thu, 06 March 2014 16:30
		Re: Dear MPF By: nikki6ixx on Thu, 06 March 2014 20:10
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Thu, 06 March 2014 14:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: Gen_Blacky on Thu, 06 March 2014 15:05
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Sat, 08 March 2014 07:34
		Re: Dear MPF By: escelade3 on Thu, 06 March 2014 16:56
		Re: Dear MPF By: escelade3 on Thu, 06 March 2014 18:00
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Thu, 06 March 2014 22:13
		Re: Dear MPF By: iRANian on Fri, 07 March 2014 00:23
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Fri, 07 March 2014 09:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: shaitan on Sat, 08 March 2014 08:19
		Re: Dear MPF By: Agent on Sat, 08 March 2014 11:12
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Sat, 08 March 2014 11:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: limewire3 on Sat, 08 March 2014 01:19
		Re: Dear MPF By: Fr3nchFry on Mon, 10 March 2014 12:15
		Re: Dear MPF By: grnfusion on Sat, 08 March 2014 10:01
		Re: Dear MPF By: iRANian on Sun, 09 March 2014 00:06
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Sun, 09 March 2014 00:15
		Re: Dear MPF By: himselfd on Sun, 09 March 2014 23:32
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Mon, 10 March 2014 02:14
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Mon, 10 March 2014 05:07
		Re: Dear MPF By: resistor1 on Mon, 10 March 2014 05:18
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Thu, 13 March 2014 12:33
		Re: Dear MPF By: Sean on Sat, 15 March 2014 16:25
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Sat, 15 March 2014 17:39
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Sat, 15 March 2014 23:22
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Mon, 10 March 2014 05:42
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Thu, 13 March 2014 15:12
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Fri, 14 March 2014 02:13
		Re: Dear MPF By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 10 March 2014 09:38
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Mon, 10 March 2014 10:27
		Re: Dear MPF By: Tiny on Thu, 13 March 2014 13:44
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Fri, 14 March 2014 05:56
		Re: Dear MPF By: Good-One-Driver on Sat, 15 March 2014 15:55
		Re: Dear MPF By: Hypnos on Sat, 15 March 2014 17:29
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Tue, 18 March 2014 05:34
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Tue, 18 March 2014 05:54
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Tue, 18 March 2014 06:00
		Re: Dear MPF By: kenz3001 on Tue, 18 March 2014 08:20
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Tue, 18 March 2014 17:19
		Re: Dear MPF By: Tiny on Tue, 18 March 2014 07:10
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Tue, 18 March 2014 07:31
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Tue, 18 March 2014 08:13
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Wed, 19 March 2014 02:25
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Tue, 18 March 2014 08:15
		Re: Dear MPF By: [Mike] on Tue, 18 March 2014 13:23
		Re: Dear MPF By: Agent on Tue, 18 March 2014 21:42
		Re: Dear MPF By: reborn on Wed, 19 March 2014 02:10
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Wed, 19 March 2014 02:13
		Re: Dear MPF By: BAGUETTE on Tue, 18 March 2014 13:27
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Tue, 18 March 2014 17:34
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Tue, 18 March 2014 18:21
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Wed, 19 March 2014 01:27
		Re: Dear MPF By: escelade3 on Wed, 19 March 2014 16:20
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Wed, 19 March 2014 16:52
		Re: Dear MPF By: iRANian on Fri, 28 March 2014 01:41
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Fri, 28 March 2014 06:45
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Fri, 28 March 2014 14:34
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Fri, 28 March 2014 20:29
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Sat, 29 March 2014 09:01
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Sat, 29 March 2014 10:09
		Re: Dear MPF By: Gen_Blacky on Sat, 29 March 2014 11:02
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Sat, 29 March 2014 11:56
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Sat, 29 March 2014 13:19
		Re: Dear MPF By: Mauler on Sun, 30 March 2014 02:07
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Sun, 30 March 2014 07:08
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Sun, 30 March 2014 08:56
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Sun, 30 March 2014 08:38
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Sun, 30 March 2014 08:55
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Sun, 30 March 2014 09:11
		Re: Dear MPF By: -TLS-DJ-EYE-K on Sun, 30 March 2014 13:34
		Re: Dear MPF By: GenOBrien on Sun, 30 March 2014 18:50
		Re: Dear MPF By: nikki6ixx on Sun, 30 March 2014 18:52
		Re: Dear MPF By: Xpert on Mon, 31 March 2014 14:51
		Re: Dear MPF By: Aircraftkiller on Mon, 31 March 2014 16:46
		Re: Dear MPF By: appshot on Sun, 30 March 2014 17:21
		Re: Dear MPF By: Gen_Blacky on Sun, 30 March 2014 17:29
		Re: Dear MPF By: ehhh on Sun, 30 March 2014 18:47
		Re: Dear MPF By: liquidv2 on Mon, 31 March 2014 15:16
		Re: Dear MPF By: zunnie on Tue, 01 April 2014 00:41
		Re: Dear MPF By: EvilWhiteDragon on Wed, 02 April 2014 12:45

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