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Re: What actually happened... [message #481443 is a reply to message #481439] Mon, 03 June 2013 10:05 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Wyld1USA wrote on Mon, 03 June 2013 12:46

From your standpoint I understand the statement of relevancy. Both of you are taking the position you have rights to RC assets.

You paint a picture of stepping back but retaining the right to come back at anytime and he paints a picture of the opposite. Whether what you say is true and he altered it to fit his personal needs when he saw an opening to "steal" the comm as you have stated remains to be seen as his actions that started all this were simply a result of your pm's to people saying you were going to take the community back over. If it was the case, you played into it giving him the reason. But the problem I have is he was here paying the bills. You were not. So I go back to my original point, you would have nothing to ask for back. You are in essence starting fresh. You have www.rencorner.net and the site. No one is stopping you to rebuild as you would have had to anyway. You said you didn't even have any back-ups. So if Volcom hadn't kept the community going when it would have failed how would you have any files etc. to have a community now? So back to the relevancy subject, Volcom is relevant because he kept files that you would never have had still available.

Now we are back to today, hard facts of today each of you has a assets you are controlling and each of you feel they have a right to it. Regardless of how we got here, you two are the only ones that can solve this. That is my only point. Both of you have your positions and if one of you doesn't compromise then this is over and we all need to move on with our lives.




I didn't paint the picture though, it was painted for me. I never needed the "right to come back" as I never left, I just left certain duties to people - considering I had no time of day for it. I never stepped down - look through the forum logs like LSN looked through their ticket logs - Trojan painted the picture by moving stuff around, ultimately without my permission and Trojan made himself relevant and look above me. Legally, and intentionally - I never ever put that guy above me in terms of asset control, and power. He did that himself, that's where the "stealing" comes into play.

It didn't start with me PMing people saying I was going to take the community back over, it started with me PMing people saying I was going to remove Trojan. That's the key difference. He's only been paying the bills for 3 months now. You're telling me for the past year, I haven't been managing the differences? Sure we made enough to carry over for 2 months at times - but do the math yourself and you'll find out the donations in the end didn't cover the cost. I still put my own money into it. I even put the money I got off Trojan into the community.

The community never has failed though, not until Trojan forced me to ultimately put it down. The same way he was "forced" to remove me because of how he felt threatened - which as the owner and founder of RC he had every right to think that way.


@ACK - Moneybags Volcom comes out of no where, flaunts money, buys head admin, buys co-ownership status, puts himself slightly above me enough to get everyone round up against me and kicked me out of my own community.

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