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Re: Obama [message #485072 is a reply to message #485021] Sun, 29 December 2013 20:38 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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iRANian wrote on Fri, 27 December 2013 03:54

Obama is extremely left wing. Must suck to see your family's health care costs rising (except for the very poor). It's a gigantic government program that makes the majority of Americans poorer and more dependent on the state. Very leftist so.

The fact of the matter that Obama doesn't care how awfully it's being implemented and his constant lying about it shows how much he gives a fuck about anyone but his rich health care companies donors.


You know why I called you a troll? Because your first statement was a marvel of stupidity. Obama is conservative here and pretty sharply conservative in relation to other countries.

A list of some pretty conservative things Oblahma has done from the earlier source:

-Escalated the Afghanistan War (Added 30,000 More Troops)
-Has Ordered Drone Strikes (Assassinations) on US Citizens Outside the Country
-Gave Drug Companies Near Monopoly Power by Barring Imports, Extending Patents and Not Allowing the Government to Negotiate Better Prices
-Funneled Billions into the Biggest Banks in the Country After They Crashed the Economy (To be fair, Bush did this too)
-Stacked Deficit Commission with Fiscal Conservatives
-Lowered Taxes Significantly (Stimulus Bill)
-Ordered Increased Offshore Drilling Before BP Spill

But yeah, you're totally right. He's a huge liberal. Sarcasm Living in a relatively liberal country like yours, I can only imagine that you're trolling or just completely getting your news from the right-wing information bubble. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say you just don't know anything about US news (and you're a foreigner, like I know anything about European news beyond the BBC) so you picked up all of the screaming conservative rage about Obama being the second coming of satan.

Let's clarify a few points here:

I've already explained that premiums aren't "set to sharply rise".

One of your links points to Harry Reid: "Reid is worth $2.8 to $6.2 million, according to an OpenSecrets.org report, so he would not qualify for subsidies that would lower his Obamacare insurance costs." The guy's a multi-millionaire and draws a huge Senate salary. He only has to pay $4,500 more? Oh, who will think of the multi-millionaires and their four thousand dollar premium increase?

I'm also lolling at people who ignore the Federal subsidy for purchasing insurance... Because everyone will pay the sticker price! Sarcasm

"Why are things set to go so badly? Because the architects of the health-care exchanges have relied on three crucial assumptions, all of which are probably wrong."

Yeah totally legit source bro, a conservative opinion piece wishing for the ACA's failure that barely masks itself as such.

My family's healthcare costs rose about $5 per pay period this year. I went from paying $230 in monthly premiums to paying roughly $240. How will I ever survive?
 
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