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Thu, 05 October 2006 09:45

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Viva la Resistance!

ACK can be a straight up dick, but then again - so can a lot of people (myself included). Years ago when there was a lot of drama going around about RenGuard ACK actually heard me out on AIM and got my perspective on things.

I think he's just someone who is "smart but don't care". Those types of people aren't exactly the most welcomed in gaming communities, but nonetheless if this is a TRUE democratic vote ... I vote 'no'. Hopefully my vote can be respected as "a vote".

Matix wrote on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:47

Why say we have hatred against you, if you voted yourself out? Personally, no one gives a shit about you, you could die right now, no one would care about you except your beloved family & friends. As "Moee" has mentioned, behind all is a good person, but behind aircraftkiller, is really an asscrackfiller. G?g

^^This is coming from a 14 boy who runs a server admin'd by cheaters and steals other people's work. Matix = teh-pwnerer, owner of rencorner ... king of 'worthless piece of junk'. Seriously, kid - just stfu and find a new forum. If I had it my way, Crimson would ban you back to the stoneage for not only cheating, but because you steal so many people's identities and work. You're a thorn in the side of our community. Just die, pls.

"Crimson"

Do not use this thread to discuss who else you think should be banned. Posts in this thread on other subjects will be relocated.

If my last few statements crossed the line, please feel free to remove them. I just now noticed this quote. Sorry.

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		A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Crimson on Wed, 04 October 2006 17:59
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Matix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:05
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Crimson on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:07
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:08
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:09
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Matix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:11
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: cheesesoda on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:12
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:12
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Coolrock on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:13
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Matix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:16
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:20
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:18
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: KIRBY-098 on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:27
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Crimson on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:30
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Deathgod on Sat, 07 October 2006 04:48
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: U927 on Sat, 07 October 2006 08:22
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Renx on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:31
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:32
		Re: A sniff of democracy By: KIRBY-098 on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:39
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:41
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:44
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Matix on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:47
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Yoshimitsu on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:48
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Ryan3k on Wed, 04 October 2006 18:49
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: cheesesoda on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:07
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: msgtpain on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:18
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: cheesesoda on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:21
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Jaspah on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:17
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:23
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:24
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:27
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: msgtpain on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:24
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:28
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Coolrock on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:35
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Danchicken on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:49
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: AmunRa on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:49
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:52
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: AmunRa on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:22
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: xptek on Wed, 04 October 2006 19:54
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: KIRBY-098 on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:10
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: warranto on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:11
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Spoony on Thu, 05 October 2006 00:48
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: warranto on Thu, 05 October 2006 07:44
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Halo38 on Thu, 05 October 2006 05:23
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Kamuix on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:14
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Wed, 04 October 2006 20:53
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: jschultz9 on Wed, 04 October 2006 21:40
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Spoony on Thu, 05 October 2006 11:21
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Crimson on Thu, 05 October 2006 04:14
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Crimson on Thu, 05 October 2006 04:45
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Crimson on Thu, 05 October 2006 05:37
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Crimson on Thu, 05 October 2006 05:48
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Oblivion165 on Thu, 05 October 2006 10:13
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: KIRBY-098 on Thu, 05 October 2006 10:54
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Coolrock on Thu, 05 October 2006 12:43
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Thu, 05 October 2006 13:05
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Yoshimitsu on Thu, 05 October 2006 13:19
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Jaspah on Thu, 05 October 2006 13:31
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Dave Anderson on Thu, 05 October 2006 12:22
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		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Aircraftkiller on Thu, 05 October 2006 13:32
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Kamuix on Thu, 05 October 2006 13:53
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Coolrock on Thu, 05 October 2006 15:06
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: futura83 on Thu, 05 October 2006 15:07
		Re: A sniff of democracy (aka ACK vote) By: Matix on Thu, 05 October 2006 15:08
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