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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463407 is a reply to message #463386] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 18:02   |
falcod
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| reckneya wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 16:18 |
| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 13:39 |
nothing more annoying than telling some idiot to stop team hampering only to have him say "shut up noob, look at my awesome rank/ladder/recs/fame/etc that I got from these acts of team hampering." or something along those lines.
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I know exactly what you mean. Here's an example of that where some guy that was obviously spoofing your nickname (since I see how strongly despise these kinds of players) does just that:
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[22:53:13] [Team] falcod666: PUT THAT MAMMY BACK IN BASE
[22:53:46] [Team] -DM-reckneya: falco, is it that big a deal?
[22:53:47] [Private] falcod666: put that back in base on the airstrip
[22:53:51] [Team] falcod666: yes. it is
[22:53:52] Host: Veteran: falcod666 ordered a new vehicle!
[22:54:04] [Team] -DM-reckneya: falco, it counts for our limit
[22:54:04] Host: Veteran: Fr4gg0r ordered a new vehicle!
[22:54:10] [Team] falcod666: THE MOMENT WE GET 16 gdi vehs, GDI CAN"T GET ORCAS
[22:54:19] [Team] falcod666: and no it counts to THEIR limit
[22:54:22] [Team] -DM-reckneya: it's not a gdi vehicle
[22:54:24] [Team] [DTA]thomasemperor: dude he isnt losing it
[22:54:25] [Team] falcod666: dont question me i played this game way longer than you
[22:54:32] [Team] falcod666: he already ALMOST lost it just now
[22:54:32] [Team] psychoyo: mamy is gdi veh
[22:54:34] [Team] -DM-Reaver11: Oh noes!
[22:54:37] [Team] -DM-reckneya: it was ordered by chinook
[22:54:37] [Team] falcod666: i had to kill myself to save him
[22:54:45] [Team] falcod666: Yes. dont question me i told u i know
[22:54:50] [Team] falcod666: it counts as their limit
[22:54:55] [Team] Source: it was a crate give doesnt count on GDi count
[22:54:56] [Team] falcod666: regardless of how it was gotten
[22:55:01] [Team] Cutzenklo: so why we are saving all the vehs if its counting as our limit
[22:55:11] [Team] falcod666: ALL EMPTY GDI VEHS COUNT TO THEIR LIMIT. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW U GET THEM
[22:55:11] [Team] -DM-Reaver11: and they still buy veh...
[22:55:18] [Team] bigost0rm: it counts against thier limit
[22:55:19] [Team] Cutzenklo: truwe
[22:55:19] [Team] -DM-reckneya: falco, this was a general vehicle, so it counts as our limit
[22:55:22] [Team] falcod666: they can use !veh, but they can't buy orcas
[22:55:22] Host: Veteran: wuzaaaaap ordered a new vehicle!
[22:55:31] [Team] Source: ok so do we have a plan or are we gonna complain about veh counts?
[22:55:31] Host: Veteran: psychoyo ordered a new vehicle!
[22:55:31] [Team] -DM-reckneya: either kill it or use it
[22:55:32] [Team] falcod666: Reckneya, i've told u before... IT COUNTS AS THEIR LIMIT
[22:55:36] [Team] falcod666: FFS
[22:55:38] [Team] falcod666: !rank
«««««apparently shows some awesome rank»»»»»»»»»»
[22:55:41] [Team] falcod666: SEE THAT RANK>
[22:55:49] [Team] falcod666: DO U THINK I GOT THAT BY BEING NUB?
[22:55:52] [Team] falcod666: DONT QUESTION MY KNOWLEDGE
[22:55:54] [Team] psychoyo: yep?
[22:55:54] [Team] bigost0rm: maybe
[22:55:57] [Team] falcod666: IT COUNTS AS THEIR LIMIT
[22:55:58] [DTA]thomasemperor: n00b
[22:55:58] [Team] psychoyo: joke joke
[22:56:01] KAGRAN22: stop talking
[22:56:01] [Team] [DTA]thomasemperor: stfu
[22:56:10] [Team] Rachele: cow
[22:56:17] Host: Veteran: muratarum ordered a new vehicle!
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True, I was wrong about the vehicle limit, but... a well nuff said?
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dude.. that's precisely why its different.. because the person boasting the rank in this case is CORRECT... lol. Rank/Ladder/Recs should reflect that a player knows what hes talking about and plays well. I'm complaining about the situation where some noob gets high rank/ladder/rec and thinks he's right about something when he ISN'T. In the case you quoted above, i WAS right about it, so there's no problem with it lol. And I only used my rank to try and tell you so because you stubbornly refused to listen to anyone on our team telling you that YOU WERE WRONG lol.
don't just hop in and use the opportunity to throw your personal vendettas in here.
if hitler or osama opened a game server with no strings attached and the gameplay was fun, would I play on it? The answer is Yes, as long as there really isn't any strings attached in the sense that I don't have to commit any evil acts to play there. The person is at fault, not the item. Sure you could boycott the game to protest the evils that hitler/osama do, but they won't care either way lol. Do you think hitler would become nice just because people threaten to boycott?
When people commit evil actions.. the person is evil, not the items he owns. If we find out some day that whoever created the CNC universe was a mass murderer, are we all supposed to stop playing all the CNC games in protest? No! That's ridiculous because its not like playing those games means we support murder or anything along those lines. And its not like when we stop playing it somehow stops him from murdering people.
There's plenty of other analogies I can give... if an artist destroys a national treasure, should all his sculptures and paintings be destroyed? another famous example.. michael jackson was in that scandal with touching little boys.. should we all stop listening to his music or otherwise be labelled as child porn supporters?
oh and here's one that suits this situation remarkably well: an architect jealous of his rival turns to terrorism and bombs his rival's buildings, causing mass death and destruction and what not. The architect then hides himself in an iron fortress so he can't be caught and punished in any way.
Should all the tenants in the houses built by the architect be forced to evict so the architect's buildings can be torn down to be fair? Or even if not torn down, must all tenants leave their buildings or be associated with evil? Would doing so really hurt the architect in any way? >_> <_<
EDIT: For the last time NO I'M NOT SAYING LET WILO GO FREE. I"M NOT SUPPORTING REN TERRORISM. I'm just saying this method of dealing with it isn't achieving squat, other than hoping that wilo will somehow lose his incentive to crash other servers if the storm server is dead (which seems like a pretty far-fetched hope to me).
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why didn't you do what the rest of the people in st0rm (that mattered) do
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that's probably why: I don't matter. I don't hold any position of power. I could follow suit and tell him what everyone already told him or leave the server, but to him it'll be identical to just some random hopping on the bandwagon. It doesn't make any difference lol.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463410 is a reply to message #463391] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 18:07 |
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| Xpert wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:55 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:23 |
falcod is just another renegade troll, as if this community doesn't have enough of them. 
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He's not a troll, he's an idiot who thinks he knows how Renegade gameplay works and it's coding.
And falcod, if you were against St0rm closing down, then why didn't you do what the rest of the people in st0rm (that mattered) do, which was tell to tell Wilo to "GET THE FUCK OUT" so to speak. Or go with the 2nd option (if you were a staff member) which was leave and stop any further support for Wilo's bullshit.
All of the morons who "support" Wilo were prety much waiting to get exiled. Wilo is pretty much like Hitler and the community are the Jews waiting to be backstabed or removed from st0rm when their services are no longer needed.
Do you people not realize none of this shit would of happened if Wilo wasn't such a fucking sociapathic lying son of a bitch who thinks he has so much power over the world of the internet with his e-warrior pride.
When I first entered st0rm and joined the staff, it was actually enjoyable. But when days went on and I learned about the bullshit he was doing, I didn't want to be part of it all. I did not want to administrate a network where the owner attacks other local communities just so he can attempt to gain a playerbase. What's even more sad is certain people in the fucking administration team knew about Wilo's attacks and didn't have the balls to say shit to him. I confronted him. I still remember what I said. "If you truly believe in your members and their ability to make st0rm popular and continue to have a strong playerbase, then you don't need to resort into attacking Jelly". In return he said he would stop. But he didn't, and I stopped giving a shit. Then the whole community war scandal. It's stupid.
Let me break it down:
- MDK never cheated. Wilo fabricated it. MDK was an annoying fucker yes, but he never cheated.
- Wilo used donation funds for other things that are not related to st0rm.
- Wilo DoS'd a community outside of Renegade in defense for Black Widow Gaming when BW-Gaming was at fued with another BW-Gaming for the rights of the name "Black Widow". He DoS'd them and forced them on teamspeak to hand over the name in return, he would stop attacking them.
- Wilo didn't just cheat in 1 map in the community war. He fucking cheated in all of them, even granting our team a load of credits using the server side console commands.
- Wilo lied and blamed my code for his stupid server crashing when in reality it was his fault.
- Wilo tried to cause a scene blaming me for "hacking" their FTP and deleting files off their server box in the #St0rm public channel and didn't even provide any proof that it was me.
- Wilo doesn't have any friends in the federal agency. He's getting information off websites where you can pay $15 to do a background check on someone. It's all social media bullshit and Crimson can tell you that herself.
- In the events that occured yesterday with multiple users being banned for no reason including myself off the network and website, I opered up as Wilo on the IRC and zlined all network IRC operators but Wilo lied claiming I was ddosing St0rm and flooding the servers. Can't call it hacking when you have access, right?
- Oh lets not forget him lying he has my address and home phone number when I don't even have a fucking home phone. Hey Wilo, I still want to know my home phone number that I don't have you lying piece of shit.
- And did I mention he fucked other girls and messed around while dating his recent ex which I will leave nameless? Not to mention him having nude pictures of female community members of st0rm, one of them being another server owner, hmmm.
You people want to support him? So be it, but that makes you as disgusting as he is. Becareful, he might kill your unborn child and lock you in the closet.
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Wilo: Ur so fucking cool man!
Me: You disgust me this is what you're reduced to.
Wilo: Ur no better than me
Me: No. I don't get into people's personal lives.
Wilo: I am going into urs
Wilo: Watch me.
Me: idc try me.
Wilo: And I will do it worse than crim
Wilo: Oh you have no idea.
Me: Whatever. Sociapath. All you do is hide behind your little monitor.
Me: And show off how much of an e warrior you are.
Wilo: Yet I can destroy you from here.
Me: Get mad more over a 500 use renegade.
Wilo: Sad isn't it?
Me: Ya sure. Go kill some more unborn children.
Wilo: That I can crush you from behind a computer
Wilo: Lol, ok
Me: Go ahead and spend your cool 15 dollar background check online.
Wilo: You think I use those?
Wilo: Your funny.
Wilo: cya kid
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And "kid" really? Yet we're the same age, go figure.
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Agreed.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463411 is a reply to message #463410] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 18:15 |
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[quote title=ssptweek wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:07]| Xpert wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:55 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:23 |
falcod is just another renegade troll, as if this community doesn't have enough of them.
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He's not a troll, he's an idiot who thinks he knows how Renegade gameplay works and it's coding.
And falcod, if you were against St0rm closing down, then why didn't you do what the rest of the people in st0rm (that mattered) do, which was tell to tell Wilo to "GET THE FUCK OUT" so to speak. Or go with the 2nd option (if you were a staff member) which was leave and stop any further support for Wilo's bullshit.
All of the morons who "support" Wilo were prety much waiting to get exiled. Wilo is pretty much like Hitler and the community are the Jews waiting to be backstabed or removed from st0rm when their services are no longer needed.
Do you people not realize none of this shit would of happened if Wilo wasn't such a fucking sociapathic lying son of a bitch who thinks he has so much power over the world of the internet with his e-warrior pride.
When I first entered st0rm and joined the staff, it was actually enjoyable. But when days went on and I learned about the bullshit he was doing, I didn't want to be part of it all. I did not want to administrate a network where the owner attacks other local communities just so he can attempt to gain a playerbase. What's even more sad is certain people in the fucking administration team knew about Wilo's attacks and didn't have the balls to say shit to him. I confronted him. I still remember what I said. "If you truly believe in your members and their ability to make st0rm popular and continue to have a strong playerbase, then you don't need to resort into attacking Jelly". In return he said he would stop. But he didn't, and I stopped giving a shit. Then the whole community war scandal. It's stupid.
Let me break it down:
- MDK never cheated. Wilo fabricated it. MDK was an annoying fucker yes, but he never cheated.
- Wilo used donation funds for other things that are not related to st0rm.
- Wilo DoS'd a community outside of Renegade in defense for Black Widow Gaming when BW-Gaming was at fued with another BW-Gaming for the rights of the name "Black Widow". He DoS'd them and forced them on teamspeak to hand over the name in return, he would stop attacking them.
- Wilo didn't just cheat in 1 map in the community war. He fucking cheated in all of them, even granting our team a load of credits using the server side console commands.
- Wilo lied and blamed my code for his stupid server crashing when in reality it was his fault.
- Wilo tried to cause a scene blaming me for "hacking" their FTP and deleting files off their server box in the #St0rm public channel and didn't even provide any proof that it was me.
- Wilo doesn't have any friends in the federal agency. He's getting information off websites where you can pay $15 to do a background check on someone. It's all social media bullshit and Crimson can tell you that herself.
- In the events that occured yesterday with multiple users being banned for no reason including myself off the network and website, I opered up as Wilo on the IRC and zlined all network IRC operators but Wilo lied claiming I was ddosing St0rm and flooding the servers. Can't call it hacking when you have access, right?
- Oh lets not forget him lying he has my address and home phone number when I don't even have a fucking home phone. Hey Wilo, I still want to know my home phone number that I don't have you lying piece of shit.
- And did I mention he fucked other girls and messed around while dating his recent ex which I will leave nameless? Not to mention him having nude pictures of female community members of st0rm, one of them being another server owner, hmmm.
You people want to support him? So be it, but that makes you as disgusting as he is. Becareful, he might kill your unborn child and lock you in the closet.
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Wilo: Ur so fucking cool man!
Me: You disgust me this is what you're reduced to.
Wilo: Ur no better than me
Me: No. I don't get into people's personal lives.
Wilo: I am going into urs
Wilo: Watch me.
Me: idc try me.
Wilo: And I will do it worse than crim
Wilo: Oh you have no idea.
Me: Whatever. Sociapath. All you do is hide behind your little monitor.
Me: And show off how much of an e warrior you are.
Wilo: Yet I can destroy you from here.
Me: Get mad more over a 500 use renegade.
Wilo: Sad isn't it?
Me: Ya sure. Go kill some more unborn children.
Wilo: That I can crush you from behind a computer
Wilo: Lol, ok
Me: Go ahead and spend your cool 15 dollar background check online.
Wilo: You think I use those?
Wilo: Your funny.
Wilo: cya kid
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And "kid" really? Yet we're the same age, go figure.
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maybe some one should tell shaitan this lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Storm_botnet
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Command-and-Conquer-Renegade-online-MDK-team/13361 2683382711
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463414 is a reply to message #463407] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 19:07 |
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| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:02 |
oh and here's one that suits this situation remarkably well: an architect jealous of his rival turns to terrorism and bombs his rival's buildings, causing mass death and destruction and what not. The architect then hides himself in an iron fortress so he can't be caught and punished in any way.
Should all the tenants in the houses built by the architect be forced to evict so the architect's buildings can be torn down to be fair? Or even if not torn down, must all tenants leave their buildings or be associated with evil? Would doing so really hurt the architect in any way? >_> <_<
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don't be so dramatic. you didn't actually suffer from anything the XWIS sanction did. you didn't lose anything you were entitled to.
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EDIT: For the last time NO I'M NOT SAYING LET WILO GO FREE. I"M NOT SUPPORTING REN TERRORISM.
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you've yet to suggest a different option. i can think of several people who have; myself, crimson, liquid. they've all been violently rejected.
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I'm just saying this method of dealing with it isn't achieving squat, other than hoping that wilo will somehow lose his incentive to crash other servers if the storm server is dead (which seems like a pretty far-fetched hope to me).
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it's achieved quite a lot actually, it's sent a clear message to scum like wilo. now ppl know that there are consequences for these e-attacks. it's also discredited wilo himself (there are still a few gullible twats leftover, alas)
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why didn't you do what the rest of the people in st0rm (that mattered) do
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that's probably why: I don't matter. I don't hold any position of power. I could follow suit and tell him what everyone already told him or leave the server, but to him it'll be identical to just some random hopping on the bandwagon. It doesn't make any difference lol.
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maybe the next time someone is hell-bent on destroying a server you enjoy, how about you grow a pair and stand up to him, instead of waiting for it to all be over so you can rail at his victims instead.
maybe railing at the people who actually did something about this situation - and who did more to help st0rm out than you did - makes you feel better about what you should've done but didn't have the balls to, it seems. you want absolution for inaction? wilo was destroying your community, crimson was offering to save it, and i was telling wilo the laughably simple solution to the whole problem; you, meanwhile, are just waiting for the whole thing to finally disappear then you tell us we should've done it differently? (you haven't yet said how, but hey... turning up late seems to be your style
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463427 is a reply to message #463411] |
Thu, 01 March 2012 23:23 |
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| TEAM MDK wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:15 |
| Xpert wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:55 |
- MDK never cheated. Wilo fabricated it. MDK was an annoying fucker yes, but he never cheated.
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maybe some one should tell shaitan this lol
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You cheated in a server I was at, not anyone else, it was you. You did it on Wilost0rm's nick, you did it on Whitenerd's(I think this was the one, I don't have that access to check).
Any time btcentralplus isp would show up, we'd check into it(not to mention the partial bans that were already in place). I don't know how many times you evaded, but near the end there I stopped caring and just let you be.
You can take Xpert's word as whatever you want, but he was just as bad.
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463433 is a reply to message #462549] |
Fri, 02 March 2012 00:30 |
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Xpert... was just as bad? Did you read the shit that he posted? What, so zlining people from an IRC server you have access to is the same as:
- Beating your ex.
- Stealing money from your community members.
- Flooding servers.
- (Maybe) Causing a miscarriage whenever you knew your gf was pregnant.
- Being a constant "terrorist" over the Renegade community.
- Lying
- Cheating
- Faggot
So, all of those things make up for Xpert being zlined whenever he had access? And this was after he was banned from the forums for no reason, and he was zlined off of IRC himself for no reason. Hm.... But yes, Xpert is just as bad as Wilo.
Xpert, please don't beat your girlfriend and lock her in the closet until she say's she'll get back with you. Also, I was planning to donate some money to Atomix. Don't use it to buy you a nice looking TV, either. Also, don't flood Jelly. That'd be bad, too.
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·OTBot·beerfull4: see that for sure a auto aim
·OTBot·beerfull4: u know how i can tell
·OTBot·Gohax: LOL
·OTBot·Gohax: how can you tell?
·OTBot·beerfull4: becuz your american and americans are like that
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463437 is a reply to message #462549] |
Fri, 02 March 2012 01:02 |
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| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 16:23 |
Just because we play there doesn't mean we have the power to make him resign.
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did you even try? no? the reason st0rm is gone from Renegade then is because you failed to act
if you tried and failed it would be a different story; you're asking the people with morals and values to change for someone without morals and values
...why? because some players only want to play on st0rm servers? i'm sure some players will quit Renegade altogether due to this, but in my eyes that's a better trade-off than other servers taking shit from him (especially to the extent that my own did) and Renegade as a whole getting destroyed because he wants it all for himself
| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 16:23 |
2) Just because we play there doesn't mean we support him. I don't know why I have to keep repeating this, but playing there doesn't give him more power to crash servers, it doesn't make us slaves to his will, or anything along those lines.
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i don't know how to tell you this, but you're not getting it
if Wilo is left in power and still has a vested interest in this game all other servers will be taking shit from him, and after seeing what he was willing to do to my own for over two months straight i can honestly say i don't want to see that happen to anyone, ever
Renegade's well-being overall is far more important to me than the players Renegade will lose because st0rm is unwilling to part with Wilo
and i don't feel bad about that; they have their priorities, and they chose him over you and all of st0rm's Renegade players falcod
none of the seniors wanted him to leave, and so he closed down all of their Renegade-related activities and geared st0rm in other directions
how does that make you feel?
| kikiller wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 16:32 |
In my opinion, This thread probably just needs to be closed or make a i hate st0rm thread. All everyone seems to be doing now is just Either
1. Trolling
2. Not moving on to other subjects in either their own community or the renegade community.
3. Nagging about an issue that has been dealt with at the appropriate levels and taken care of.
Honestly, anyone else from st0rm needs to stop posting here. All you are doing is just feeding trolls, And feeding their argument that everyone in st0rm is mindless/Fucking retarded. Stop making everything worse than what it was. If people wanna bitch let them. I'm not gonna loose sleep.
I haven't been around at st0rm for 2 years, if people wanna call us mindless drones for being there, Let them. Just don't prove their argument by making dumbass posts.
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are you even reading the thread? because this post doesn't describe what's actually happening at all
| shaitan wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012 00:23 |
You can take Xpert's word as whatever you want, but he was just as bad.
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you should apologize for how wrong this statement actually is; if you're not intentionally lying then there's something seriously wrong with you lol
as for the people that said Wilo needs to get out more - maybe if he's escorted by police or something
wouldn't want him to hit any more pregnant girls in the stomach until they have miscarriages
it sounds so fucking ridiculous to hear that but it's even more fucking ridiculous that it's true
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463446 is a reply to message #462549] |
Fri, 02 March 2012 05:42 |
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btw i hope suicide doesn't win because it's the only one of the four outcomes that wouldn't be funny.
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| Re: St0rm "Truth" [message #463453 is a reply to message #462549] |
Fri, 02 March 2012 08:22 |
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| Gohax wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012 00:30 |
Xpert... was just as bad? Did you read the shit that he posted? What, so zlining people from an IRC server you have access to is the same as: *stuff*
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They have the same stupid owners mentality, both have a penchant for flooding servers, lying, cheating, reading people's private messages, and stealing passwords.
I'd pretty much say they are peas in a pod. The funny part about all of this is Xpert/iran distancing themselves.
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| shaitan wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012 00:23 |
You can take Xpert's word as whatever you want, but he was just as bad.
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you should apologize for how wrong this statement actually is; if you're not intentionally lying then there's something seriously wrong with you lol
as for the people that said Wilo needs to get out more - maybe if he's escorted by police or something
wouldn't want him to hit any more pregnant girls in the stomach until they have miscarriages
it sounds so fucking ridiculous to hear that but it's even more fucking ridiculous that it's true
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You weren't there, so you have no idea how his episode played out. Reading things in a "newspaper/online court", is a whole lot different than what may/may not have really happened.
It's kind of like him throwing that bit about Crimson's "fraud" into this. It doesn't make it true.
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two questions
1. have any of you st0rmians ever bothered asking him? if someone made a serious accusation to me that was 0.000001% as fucking monstrous as that news report, i think i would take the time to say it was entirely false. what wilo said was "oh, so you wanna get personal"... interesting response
how about shoplifting from best buy too
2. answer me honestly, would you give much of a shit if it was true?
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tbh it wouldnt really amaze me if shaitan had a similar "episode" like the the one described in that news article, as he's a 35 year old guy living with his parents who makes death threats over the internet, is a known embarrassment in pretty much all renegade communities, acts like a child and is a known liar.
Not to mention his flooding of the MP-gaming MissionDM server and threats to their staff. :/
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| iRANian wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012 08:43 |
tbh it wouldnt really amaze me if shaitan had a similar "episode" like the the one described in that news article, as he's a 35 year old guy living with his parents who makes death threats over the internet, is a known embarrassment in pretty much all renegade communities, acts like a child and is a known liar.
Not to mention his flooding of the MP-gaming MissionDM server and threats to their staff. :/
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Why yes I did have a similar experience once. That's why I say back off the guy unless you were there.
Here's a tip on Illinois,US EOP laws you little communist piece of shit: If you live with someone, in some sort of relationship with that someone, and they file one of those on you: you have zero say in any of it. Even if you're the one with pictures/records/witnesses of how you looked.
Awww how cute. I stick to renegade business, and you try to get personal. If I hadn't of fucked my life up over an abusive woman and moved out here, my mother would have been dead when she had her heart attack a few months ago. You're trying to make me feel bad in some manner?
Aren't you banned in st0rm plus Jelly(atomix before as well)? I generally get banned when I get into it with dipshit owners over their abusiveness towards their players/moderators. *looks at xpert, wilo, reborn*
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| iRANian wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:23 |
falcod is just another renegade troll, as if this community doesn't have enough of them.
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He's not a troll, he's an idiot who thinks he knows how Renegade gameplay works and it's coding.
And falcod, if you were against St0rm closing down, then why didn't you do what the rest of the people in st0rm (that mattered) do, which was tell to tell Wilo to "GET THE FUCK OUT" so to speak. Or go with the 2nd option (if you were a staff member) which was leave and stop any further support for Wilo's bullshit.
All of the morons who "support" Wilo were prety much waiting to get exiled. Wilo is pretty much like Hitler and the community are the Jews waiting to be backstabed or removed from st0rm when their services are no longer needed.
Do you people not realize none of this shit would of happened if Wilo wasn't such a fucking sociapathic lying son of a bitch who thinks he has so much power over the world of the internet with his e-warrior pride.
When I first entered st0rm and joined the staff, it was actually enjoyable. But when days went on and I learned about the bullshit he was doing, I didn't want to be part of it all. I did not want to administrate a network where the owner attacks other local communities just so he can attempt to gain a playerbase. What's even more sad is certain people in the fucking administration team knew about Wilo's attacks and didn't have the balls to say shit to him. I confronted him. I still remember what I said. "If you truly believe in your members and their ability to make st0rm popular and continue to have a strong playerbase, then you don't need to resort into attacking Jelly". In return he said he would stop. But he didn't, and I stopped giving a shit. Then the whole community war scandal. It's stupid.
Let me break it down:
- MDK never cheated. Wilo fabricated it. MDK was an annoying fucker yes, but he never cheated.
- Wilo used donation funds for other things that are not related to st0rm.
- Wilo DoS'd a community outside of Renegade in defense for Black Widow Gaming when BW-Gaming was at fued with another BW-Gaming for the rights of the name "Black Widow". He DoS'd them and forced them on teamspeak to hand over the name in return, he would stop attacking them.
- Wilo didn't just cheat in 1 map in the community war. He fucking cheated in all of them, even granting our team a load of credits using the server side console commands.
- Wilo lied and blamed my code for his stupid server crashing when in reality it was his fault.
- Wilo tried to cause a scene blaming me for "hacking" their FTP and deleting files off their server box in the #St0rm public channel and didn't even provide any proof that it was me.
- Wilo doesn't have any friends in the federal agency. He's getting information off websites where you can pay $15 to do a background check on someone. It's all social media bullshit and Crimson can tell you that herself.
- In the events that occured yesterday with multiple users being banned for no reason including myself off the network and website, I opered up as Wilo on the IRC and zlined all network IRC operators but Wilo lied claiming I was ddosing St0rm and flooding the servers. Can't call it hacking when you have access, right?
- Oh lets not forget him lying he has my address and home phone number when I don't even have a fucking home phone. Hey Wilo, I still want to know my home phone number that I don't have you lying piece of shit.
- And did I mention he fucked other girls and messed around while dating his recent ex which I will leave nameless? Not to mention him having nude pictures of female community members of st0rm, one of them being another server owner, hmmm.
You people want to support him? So be it, but that makes you as disgusting as he is. Becareful, he might kill your unborn child and lock you in the closet.
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Wilo: Ur so fucking cool man!
Me: You disgust me this is what you're reduced to.
Wilo: Ur no better than me
Me: No. I don't get into people's personal lives.
Wilo: I am going into urs
Wilo: Watch me.
Me: idc try me.
Wilo: And I will do it worse than crim
Wilo: Oh you have no idea.
Me: Whatever. Sociapath. All you do is hide behind your little monitor.
Me: And show off how much of an e warrior you are.
Wilo: Yet I can destroy you from here.
Me: Get mad more over a 500 use renegade.
Wilo: Sad isn't it?
Me: Ya sure. Go kill some more unborn children.
Wilo: That I can crush you from behind a computer
Wilo: Lol, ok
Me: Go ahead and spend your cool 15 dollar background check online.
Wilo: You think I use those?
Wilo: Your funny.
Wilo: cya kid
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Looking at stuff like this just makes me realize how lucky I was that the first Renegade site I joined was this one. I mean it might not be the most active of them all, but at least the members on it (even the trolls) don't see to go to those extremes.
The whole nude pictures thing is kind of meh however, think there is a lot of people that does stuff like that out there. Doesn't really affect if a person is good or bad at running a server.
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| shaitan wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012 08:22 |
You weren't there, so you have no idea how his episode played out. Reading things in a "newspaper/online court", is a whole lot different than what may/may not have really happened.
It's kind of like him throwing that bit about Crimson's "fraud" into this. It doesn't make it true.
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Yeah, that shit is funny. The reason there's no information about the stupid time I got sued is for two very important reasons.
1) He should have been suing my business (LLC), not me as a person. I was not personally a party to any contract.
2) My lawyer wrote the moron a letter stating like 15 reasons his case had no merit and he withdrew it from the courts.
Furthermore, the dude that sued me was just convicted for doing the shit he was trying to get me to do. Awaiting sentencing in the next couple of weeks. And yet somehow these stupid Renegade trolls give that dude credit... if they had only met this dude they'd know he's a complete crackpot. I should post his picture, then you'd know for sure.
I'm the bawss.
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| reckneya wrote on Fri, 02 March 2012 04:17 |
| falcod wrote on Thu, 01 March 2012 18:02 |
if hitler or osama opened a game server with no strings attached and the gameplay was fun, would I play on it? The answer is Yes
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So you would play on a server hosted by Hitler or Osama Bin Laden? Wow. Thank you for confirming what we already knew: You're an immoral imbecile. And that goes for anyone at st0rm that agrees with your analogy. And that's exactly why nobody gives a shit about st0rm closing. It's actually quite entertaining.
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have u read absolutely nothing beyond that point? Be logical for a moment and tell me what's wrong with playing on a game server hosted by hitler or osama... Are you somehow funding them or supporting them in any way? If anything all you're doing is taking resources from them without giving them anything whatsoever... In other words, you're making them waste time, money, electricity, hardware, cpu cycles, internet bandwidth, money, etc on catering to your gaming needs... If you didn't play there, they would be able to use these resources for other things like more cyberterrorism lol.
I've already made extensive efforts to try and disspell your crazed delusions that everything touched by evil is evil by association, but you just keep harping on trying to show the magnitude of the evil one rather than explaining why the hell the association makes others evil.
So let's try a few more analogies to try and rid you of this evil by association fallacy. Granted these types of associations are different from the game server/player association, but you have to tell me what the difference is that makes it so special that evil can be transferrred over the game server/player association but not the other ones.
Are the children of murderers evil by association? You can argue that they aren't evil by association because they aren't associated by choice. Then consider the flip side... are parents of murderers evil by association? They can easily lose the association by disowning the child. Are those parents who don't disown their murderer children considered as evil?
What about people who work at an industrial plant that causes rampant pollution problems because the owner doesn't care enough to fix the problems. Are those people evil because they willingly work at the plant when there are other jobs available? What about if there are no other decent jobs available?
please enlighten me on why some of these associations will cause evil to flow across but not others.
Let's try another one that's actually pretty close to home... Imagine there's a horrible dictator in some country that carries out terrorist acts in other countries. Are the civilians in that country evil by association? Surely they could leave the country and find some welcoming communities in other countries to join and just somehow deal with the huge cultural differences, but instead they just stay within that country instead of leaving... does that make them evil? After all, them staying in that country in this case IS actually funding the dictator's power, since they are paying tax dollars...not to mention if all the civilians had the balls to carry out a revolution they could overthrow the dictator, yet they don't. In that case, does it make it ok for other countries to nuke the dictator's country and kill all the civilians? If we think about fairness, that dictator's country certainly caused the death of several millions of others by terrorist bombings, so wiping out millions of their civilians who are staying and evil by association via nukes seems to make things fair doesn't it? Even though the dictator will probably survive seeing as hes at the top of the country and will escape to a nuclear shelter before the nuke lands, and proceed to go into hiding and never get caught... There are many who think this method is fine, but personally this just seems wrong to me.
Most of the civilians probably don't approve of the actions of their dictator, but just want to live in peace without being forced to relocate to other countries and deal with cultural differences, and don't want to burn their country to ruins to start a civil war to overthrow the dictator. Heck in this case it is highly unlikely even a combined union of all the citizens could overthrow the dictator, since all the weapons are in the hands of the dictator. Thus they are stained with this evil by association, even though they didn't have any evil intent. I'm sorry that I'm not clever enough to think up of alternative options, but it just seems that this isn't an acceptable option either.
I get what you're saying liquid. I just hoped that at least people would recognize this isn't a good approach either, even though it seems to be the only one. at the very least, they shouldn't be acting all proud and thinking justice is served and laughing at the new victims and saying they deserved it or are aligned with evil, when in fact the guy who caused all the problems in the first place probably isn't affected at all.
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you really are making a fool of yourself falco
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