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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425641 is a reply to message #425582] Tue, 13 April 2010 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I wouldn't wanna be the first to post plecos here... I got a feeling that would be like saying, "make an example outta me!"...
Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425644 is a reply to message #425641] Tue, 13 April 2010 17:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Clark Kent wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 19:43

I wouldn't wanna be the first to post plecos here... I got a feeling that would be like saying, "make an example outta me!"...


What if the PLECOS MASTER did it?
Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425645 is a reply to message #425644] Tue, 13 April 2010 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Just went from 'No way I'm reading all this shit' to 'annoying, funny, and interesting.' Improvement i'd say. Well done gentlemen.

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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425647 is a reply to message #425644] Tue, 13 April 2010 17:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DRNG wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 19:45

Clark Kent wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 19:43

I wouldn't wanna be the first to post plecos here... I got a feeling that would be like saying, "make an example outta me!"...


What if the PLECOS MASTER did it?

Guess we will never know...










or will we? Eh
Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425656 is a reply to message #425600] Tue, 13 April 2010 18:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 08:02

So you're saying I shouldn't spend my time trying to keep some value in this place, because it will be a waste of time if that doesn't succeed? And that if i try it anyway, then it's my own fault for wasting my time in a project I believe in so obviously you don't need to stop pissing?

I see no fatality.


I'm asking you to see the difference between threads worth saving (Like this one) and threads not worth saving. For example, the Atomix thread is pretty much unsalvageable at this point. Any moderating thrown at it is trying to stop people from pissing in the ocean full of piss. I'm not saying give up on moderation entirely, I'm not saying you shouldn't try to improve the forums taken as a whole, but I am saying you should recognize a lost cause when you see one.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425659 is a reply to message #425582] Tue, 13 April 2010 18:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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you've taken the entirely wrong approach goztow; instead of trying to cast the trolls out you should encourage everyone to become one so the concept suddenly loses its appeal and special kids like Dover will look for a new way to get attention



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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425661 is a reply to message #425659] Tue, 13 April 2010 18:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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liquidv2 wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 18:26

you've taken the entirely wrong approach goztow; instead of trying to cast the trolls out you should encourage everyone to become one so the concept suddenly loses its appeal and special kids like Dover will look for a new way to get attention




Clark Kent wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 17:43

I wouldn't wanna be the first to post plecos here... I got a feeling that would be like saying, "make an example outta me!"...


Listen


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425662 is a reply to message #425661] Tue, 13 April 2010 18:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have a strange feeling this topic will end in a temp/perma ban eventually

Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425674 is a reply to message #425582] Tue, 13 April 2010 21:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'll admit I do my fair share of shitposting, but usually only in threads where there's nothing much to add with intelligent discussion, and it's better to lighten it up a little.

If a serious discussion rolls by, I'm more than capable of helping people out. Not to mention, I actually do stop by the modding forums from time to time to help people out/give criticism (even if it's in a "mean" way... but then, y'know, if everyone was nice about things that looked like shit, they'd never wanna make anything better).

I'm pretty sure some people actually come here because of the community sometimes. Because despite the fact that it's such an old game, we have such a community that *still* finds time to talk about whatever comes to mind. I don't know of any other games that have such a community.

To be honest, the worst of the trolls are usually people like trooprm02 and on usually rocko (though some of his posts are atleast somewhat funny, although rarely), as well as a few others. The rest, I wouldn't go so far as to say they're outright trolls.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425677 is a reply to message #425674] Tue, 13 April 2010 21:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 21:13

I'll admit I do my fair share of shitposting, but usually only in threads where there's nothing much to add with intelligent discussion, and it's better to lighten it up a little.


This is almost exactly what I mean.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425678 is a reply to message #425582] Tue, 13 April 2010 22:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lol this whole topic is a troll attempt in itself...
Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425682 is a reply to message #425677] Tue, 13 April 2010 23:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 06:53

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 21:13

I'll admit I do my fair share of shitposting, but usually only in threads where there's nothing much to add with intelligent discussion, and it's better to lighten it up a little.


This is almost exactly what I mean.

Dover, please point me to intelligent posts you made since your comeback?

The very fact most people seem to agree that there is trolling going on - beit they don't agree if it's legit or not - validates the point I'm trying to make.

If anything, a reason not to abuse from topics that seem dead to you is for archive purposes.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425686 is a reply to message #425682] Wed, 14 April 2010 00:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 23:51

Dover, please point me to intelligent posts you made since your comeback?


Comeback? I wasn't aware I ever really left. When was the period that you consider to be my comeback, so I know in what time to search for?

Goztow wrote on Tue, 13 April 2010 23:51

If anything, a reason not to abuse from topics that seem dead to you is for archive purposes.


The only things that are truely archived are the HoF topics, and there's an (unwritten?) rule not to post in those. Anything that doesn't end up there eventually gets bumped a few years later and gets abused anyway (If it was a worthwhile topic) or forgotten (If it wasn't).


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425687 is a reply to message #425582] Wed, 14 April 2010 01:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Did you change your nick at some point? I could have sworn you took a moment off...

Those 5 year old topic bumps are done by... trolls most of the time. Some of time are actually funny, unlike the roofgnomes one.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425690 is a reply to message #425687] Wed, 14 April 2010 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 03:02

Did you change your nick at some point? I could have sworn you took a moment off...

Those 5 year old topic bumps are done by... trolls most of the time. Some of time are actually funny, unlike the roofgnomes one.

Nah, they're usually done by random idiots (see: gman/the executor/MSwindows/the_elite_officer/whatever he goes by now, archerman, etc) that browse the forums that can hardly be called "trolls".

And no, Dover never changed his nick. He just changed his avatar, but... that's about it. I never recall him leaving. You might have him confused with Cheesesoda or Ryu or Sadukar or something.

Also, roofgnomes is the best thing to ever happen to Renegade. No, wait, make that gaming as a whole.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425691 is a reply to message #425582] Wed, 14 April 2010 01:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Go ahead and ban me Goztow. What is keeping you?

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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425692 is a reply to message #425582] Wed, 14 April 2010 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^perfect example of not trolling, but just plain spamming.

There's also two types of trolling- hilariously trolling a massive idiot who's obviously in the wrong, and being an annoying dickwad in a semi-serious discussion. The former hardly hurts much considering it's generally only affecting an unwanted and less-than-helpful community member anyways, while latter is more detrimental to a community.

Example of the former: http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=msg&th=36022&start=0&rid=2 0896

(I'm too lazy to recall other situations similar to this one, but there's plenty of them).


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425695 is a reply to message #425687] Wed, 14 April 2010 02:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 01:02

Did you change your nick at some point? I could have sworn you took a moment off...


No...
>:[


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425696 is a reply to message #425582] Wed, 14 April 2010 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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stirring up shit on here isn't even funny anymore...no warring factions, no irl-drama, no personality...rocko and troop were kinda entertaining, but since they got banned the only people looking for drama are so lame that nobody even responds to(like that archerman guy)

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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425700 is a reply to message #425691] Wed, 14 April 2010 04:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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archerman wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 03:36

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=opera&rls=tr&t bs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=pleco&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= &start=0

Go ahead and ban me Goztow. What is keeping you?

ps: check my new signature.


You didn't really post PLECOS on these forums. You simply linked to PLECOS.

But I believe I am wasting my time here, responding to this. It's like talking to a brick wall.
Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425719 is a reply to message #425700] Wed, 14 April 2010 09:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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DRNG wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 14:43

archerman wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 03:36

http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&client=opera&rls=tr&t bs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=pleco&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= &start=0

Go ahead and ban me Goztow. What is keeping you?

ps: check my new signature.


You didn't really post PLECOS on these forums. You simply linked to PLECOS.

But I believe I am wasting my time here, responding to this. It's like talking to a brick wall.

I thought it was a better idea to post a link of a plenty of plecos instead of a single one.

If I am not wrong all those topics and posts mentioned are within the borders of "spam fest" section of the forums. if moderating all those posts are pretty much hard for you goztow, maybe you should just let CarrierII handle them; since he is the one who splits topics and edits posts in a random and insincerely way, then gets away with it like he didnt do anything childish at all.


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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425722 is a reply to message #425582] Wed, 14 April 2010 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spam fest isn't modearted (or hardly). I'm referring to posts made outside of the spam fest, of course.

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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425729 is a reply to message #425722] Wed, 14 April 2010 11:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I did feel Dover left for a while...it was around early Jan 2009...then he was gone till almost mid April 2009. I remember thinking "damn I miss Dover around here"




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Re: Open letter to the trolls [message #425732 is a reply to message #425729] Wed, 14 April 2010 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzzz wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 11:55

I did feel Dover left for a while...it was around early Jan 2009...then he was gone till almost mid April 2009. I remember thinking "damn I miss Dover around here"





Fancy that! I took a look through my post history and you're right. I made posts in January and April 2009, but nothing in between. I guess I just forgot about this place for a while. :S

Still, looking at the big picture of my time spent on these forums, those few months gone feel like a drop in the bucket, hardly worth calling being "gone" or making a "comeback".


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Shall Gozy smack the idiot with the hammer?[ 11 votes ]
1. Yes, please. 11 / 100%
2. Meh... 0 / 0%

archerman wrote on Wed, 14 April 2010 03:36

Go ahead and ban me Goztow. What is keeping you?


!vote yes

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