| the draft [message #24635] |
Fri, 13 June 2003 00:55   |
spotelmo
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first of all, the south was wrong for seceeding from the union in the first place.
we can not and will not allow states to split away from the united states. it would undermine our security and our economy.
secondly, iraq was not a preemptive strike. they started a war, we kicked their ass, they agreed to terms of cease-fire, they violated those terms of cease-fire we got a new un resolution laying out certain terms violation of which would have severe consequences, they violated those terms, we attacked.
third, the draft is still a necessary thing available to the us forces should it be needed.
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| the draft [message #24648] |
Fri, 13 June 2003 04:55 |
KIRBY098
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I mean...it's not like the Iraqi fort in Virginia was being heavily reinforced or anything
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I could flame this all day long.....
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| the draft [message #24662] |
Fri, 13 June 2003 07:34 |
spotelmo
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he is referring to the erroneous post where it was stated that the draft was started in 1963.
by k9trooper
"March 3, 1963 - The U.S. Congress enacts a draft, affecting male citizens aged 20 to 45. "
this was an obvious mistake. i believe it was supposed to be 1863. i'm sure that's what k9 meant though.
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| the draft [message #26268] |
Fri, 20 June 2003 14:26 |
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Epeyon
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K9trooper you dumbass he never said that their was an iraqi fort in Virginia he was say how the virginian forts at the begining of the Civil War were getting reinforced and I have never heard of the Civil Rights movement being called the second civil war. How could it be considering how arms were never taken up except for when the southern police forces thought that it was required to prevent civil unrest though it created it.
and Iraq was around in the Eighteen 60s imbecel
"Let's get out of these women's clothes and into our tights."
-Robin Hood Men in Tight
It's not my Fault you got in the way of my bullet!
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| the draft [message #26405] |
Sat, 21 June 2003 02:25 |
spotelmo
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i have often heard of the civil rights movement being called the second civil war. and, iraq did not become an independent country until 1932.
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| the draft [message #26456] |
Sat, 21 June 2003 12:40 |
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Epeyon
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oh well then I'll shutup about the Iraq thing but really before now I never heard the Civil Rights movement called the second civil war.
"Let's get out of these women's clothes and into our tights."
-Robin Hood Men in Tight
It's not my Fault you got in the way of my bullet!
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| the draft [message #26520] |
Sat, 21 June 2003 19:03 |
spotelmo
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it was called that because it again divided the country.
it even came to blows a few times with angry residents fighting national guard troops there to desegregate schools and such.
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| the draft [message #26612] |
Sun, 22 June 2003 09:59 |
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Epeyon
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ahh well still war was never declared and it never broke apart and yes I do know what a civil war is but it was never a civil war. Now to get back to the draft. If the draft is ever reinacted then the same thing that happened during the vietnam war will probably happen again though if the war does have strong backing to it like world war two did then it won't happen.
"Let's get out of these women's clothes and into our tights."
-Robin Hood Men in Tight
It's not my Fault you got in the way of my bullet!
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| the draft [message #26640] |
Sun, 22 June 2003 14:07 |
spotelmo
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regardless of what a few headline grabbing democrats say they want to do, i doubt the draft will ever be reinstated unless there was a major world wide conflict or if the us was invaded.
as i've stated before though... if called i will gladly serve.
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| the draft [message #26646] |
Sun, 22 June 2003 14:15 |
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The draft is there incase of a war that would be the scale of something like WWII. It is not really necessary anymore considering we can obliterate countries and not even have to go outside anymore. Even if that happened, this country has so many lazy slobs that take advantage of everything they can in it, that Canada's population would double if there was a draft. I do not like the idea of death, but I would serve if called upon, unlike most of this country gone wrong. Want to know why they wanted to reinstate the draft? Some racist ass senators thought it would be nice to "have some white boys get their asses shot so everything will be equal". Its nothing more than an extension of that affirmative action bullshit that causes so many problems. Its nothing more than giving people unfair chances and making the racial divide even wider. The draft will never come into play really. We are so far superior to any country that we can take a war by ourselves. The only reason we ask for allies to get them to help with the costs and be the clean up crew.
If they want fairness, then why do women not get drafted? I mean, that’s all Oprah bitches about, yet, they don’t want to be equal when it comes time to defend our freedoms everybody takes advantage for. Go figure. Then you have all these people who bitch about "I don’t believe in the US government, why should I fight for something that I don’t approve of" well then, get your fucking ass out. That pisses me off more than anything. These fucking people who sit around and collect welfare, or sue people for ridiculous shit, or try and tell other people how to raise children and try to tell them that they cant watch TV, or play video games.
Hey wait, I have an idea, MOVE YOUR ASS TO CANADA YOU PUSSIES. If you don’t like it, there are countries like France where you will fit in just right, with the rest of the stinking trash.
ph34r!
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| the draft [message #26721] |
Sun, 22 June 2003 23:42 |
spotelmo
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you are wrong, the senator that wanted it reinstated was a black vetern(from newjersey i think) democrat who wanted it reinstated because he was against the war and figures that if senators sons had to go to war, they would be less likely to vote to attack anyone in the future.
he was an idiot and will probably not be re-elected.
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| the draft [message #33599] |
Wed, 23 July 2003 21:39 |
setstyle
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Epyon: Then you have all these people who bitch about "I don’t believe in the US government, why should I fight for something that I don’t approve of" well then, get your fucking ass out
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^ We are have a birth-given right to express our opinions and resist those who seek to crush them. Should something really be done for the "good of the country" (as deemed by others) if it involves suppressing the opinions that make up democracy?
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