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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465638 is a reply to message #463687] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 12:40   |
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I was told 4.0 only takes directx screenshots whenever the server owner wants a pic of your screen. I do know it's probably illegal and invasion of privacy laws because it's done without autherzation of the user and I'm sure if you wanted to you could sue strike team for uploading personal Infomation even if it's a picture of a game and probably win.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465641 is a reply to message #465639] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 13:15 |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 13:02 |
| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 21:40 |
I was told 4.0 only takes directx screenshots whenever the server owner wants a pic of your screen. I do know it's probably illegal and invasion of privacy laws because it's done without autherzation of the user and I'm sure if you wanted to you could sue strike team for uploading personal Infomation even if it's a picture of a game and probably win.
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Same I would think a Judge may throw the case out for being stupid but people have sued stupid stuff before and won so eh. But if you have evidence of a unauthorized screenshot that does break piracy law. It does also make scripts 4.0 classified as a malicious/spyware.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465644 is a reply to message #465637] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 13:22 |
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| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 12:15 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 18:52 |
I doubt even Strike-Team would be dumb enough host their vulnerable automatic SS uploader image hosting server on the same one that XWIS uses.
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Wait.... WHAT?
Ren automatically uploads screenshots? In what manner? I run sensitive NDA data on my machine and its open sometimes I'm in game. I have a hug monitor setup and I run Ren in window mode... Does it take a full screen shot or just the DirectX screenshot????
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It's for RA2...Olaf made an optional patch that randomly uploads screenshots of you playing the game online to XWIS, e.g. http://xwis.net/ra2/games/2004/
Scripts 4.0 server comes with a console command that will automatically make a screenshot for a 4.0 player and upload it to a site (PHP scripts actually) that the server owner provided with another console command.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465645 is a reply to message #465644] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 13:31 |
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| iRANian wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 13:22 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 12:15 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 18:52 |
I doubt even Strike-Team would be dumb enough host their vulnerable automatic SS uploader image hosting server on the same one that XWIS uses.
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Wait.... WHAT?
Ren automatically uploads screenshots? In what manner? I run sensitive NDA data on my machine and its open sometimes I'm in game. I have a hug monitor setup and I run Ren in window mode... Does it take a full screen shot or just the DirectX screenshot????
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It's for RA2...Olaf made an optional patch that randomly uploads screenshots of you playing the game online to XWIS, e.g. http://xwis.net/ra2/games/2004/
Scripts 4.0 server comes with a console command that will automatically make a screenshot for a 4.0 player and upload it to a site (PHP scripts actually) that the server owner provided with another console command.
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Is there any reason for that besides to catch cheaters/ waste a tin of bandwidth and server space?
Seems abit overboard to do that it'll also probably create lag for slow connections. Cheaters don't require such a large overreaction.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465651 is a reply to message #465644] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 14:28 |
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| iRANian wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 13:22 |
| halo2pac wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 12:15 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 18:52 |
I doubt even Strike-Team would be dumb enough host their vulnerable automatic SS uploader image hosting server on the same one that XWIS uses.
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Wait.... WHAT?
Ren automatically uploads screenshots? In what manner? I run sensitive NDA data on my machine and its open sometimes I'm in game. I have a hug monitor setup and I run Ren in window mode... Does it take a full screen shot or just the DirectX screenshot????
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It's for RA2...Olaf made an optional patch that randomly uploads screenshots of you playing the game online to XWIS, e.g. http://xwis.net/ra2/games/2004/
Scripts 4.0 server comes with a console command that will automatically make a screenshot for a 4.0 player and upload it to a site (PHP scripts actually) that the server owner provided with another console command.
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What about my ahm... private skins. You know... those personal ones.....
It's all part of the big illusion that we perpetuate on ourselves and in turn is perpetuated upon us. When we believe, we engage the illusion. When we stop believing we shatter the illusion and shatter ourselves in the process. Because we are, part of it.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465654 is a reply to message #463687] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 14:38 |
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You answered your own question, you only need to take down one thing to take down everything, image uploading is really vulnerable even if you encrypt the images, putting the results server on the same box as the main "IRC" server too.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465655 is a reply to message #465647] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 14:50 |
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| ThisLittleGirl wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 14:01 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 15:52 |
I doubt even Strike-Team would be dumb enough host their vulnerable automatic SS uploader image hosting server on the same one that XWIS uses.
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How so? There's only one system running everything. For example crashing the RA2 results server takes it down for TS and YR as well.  The protocols are basically the same for all games. So why have 15 apps when you can do it in three. And it's only vulnerable in the sense that anyone could upload any picture he wants to it, hence the porn.
| Goztow wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 00:04 |
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If you want to know how well XWIS managed the Renegade part of the network, try registering a new XWIS nick.
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Just wanted to note that this is funny cause it's true  . 
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It's the same for all games. I think it's rather sad what they've done.
| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 13:31 |
Is there any reason for that besides to catch cheaters/ waste a tin of bandwidth and server space?
Seems abit overboard to do that it'll also probably create lag for slow connections. Cheaters don't require such a large overreaction.
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No, there is no other reason. Also you can't even catch cheaters with it, considering you have to install it and it's not mandatory. Xwis has more than enough bandwidth. Using it is basically a way of saying "I'm not going to cheat (anymore)". Cheating had gone way out of hand since I've gotten banned.
And Olaf, could you please answer my questions or reply to the mail I sent you exactly a week ago? Thanks babe!
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I'm no talking about xwis when someone forces your computer to to upload a image it uses your upload bandwidth some people have very small upload speed that will cause players to suffer from extreme lag during the process.
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465658 is a reply to message #465655] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 15:47 |
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| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 23:50 |
| ThisLittleGirl wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 14:01 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 15:52 |
I doubt even Strike-Team would be dumb enough host their vulnerable automatic SS uploader image hosting server on the same one that XWIS uses.
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How so? There's only one system running everything. For example crashing the RA2 results server takes it down for TS and YR as well. The protocols are basically the same for all games. So why have 15 apps when you can do it in three. And it's only vulnerable in the sense that anyone could upload any picture he wants to it, hence the porn.
| Goztow wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 00:04 |
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If you want to know how well XWIS managed the Renegade part of the network, try registering a new XWIS nick.
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Just wanted to note that this is funny cause it's true .
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It's the same for all games. I think it's rather sad what they've done.
| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 13:31 |
Is there any reason for that besides to catch cheaters/ waste a tin of bandwidth and server space?
Seems abit overboard to do that it'll also probably create lag for slow connections. Cheaters don't require such a large overreaction.
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No, there is no other reason. Also you can't even catch cheaters with it, considering you have to install it and it's not mandatory. Xwis has more than enough bandwidth. Using it is basically a way of saying "I'm not going to cheat (anymore)". Cheating had gone way out of hand since I've gotten banned.
And Olaf, could you please answer my questions or reply to the mail I sent you exactly a week ago? Thanks babe!
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I'm no talking about xwis when someone forces your computer to to upload a image it uses your upload bandwidth some people have very small upload speed that will cause players to suffer from extreme lag during the process.
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First of, it's NOT XWIS. The XWIS image uploader is unrelated to TT.
Second, you download and install TT voluntarily and the screenshot functionality is mentioned and documented.
Third, you would rather be banned of a server than having it lag for maybe a few minutes and then being able to stay?
Fourth, PLEASE tell me you're trolling...
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465662 is a reply to message #463687] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 18:13 |
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So direct X only? Not full desktop? I'm not sueing anyone... but yes this is serious.
I could care less about an actual game screenshot, I don't cheat. I care about my full desktop.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465665 is a reply to message #465658] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 19:09 |
Brandan
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 15:47 |
| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 23:50 |
| ThisLittleGirl wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 14:01 |
| iRANian wrote on Thu, 05 April 2012 15:52 |
I doubt even Strike-Team would be dumb enough host their vulnerable automatic SS uploader image hosting server on the same one that XWIS uses.
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How so? There's only one system running everything. For example crashing the RA2 results server takes it down for TS and YR as well. The protocols are basically the same for all games. So why have 15 apps when you can do it in three. And it's only vulnerable in the sense that anyone could upload any picture he wants to it, hence the porn.
| Goztow wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 00:04 |
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If you want to know how well XWIS managed the Renegade part of the network, try registering a new XWIS nick.
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Just wanted to note that this is funny cause it's true .
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It's the same for all games. I think it's rather sad what they've done.
| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 13:31 |
Is there any reason for that besides to catch cheaters/ waste a tin of bandwidth and server space?
Seems abit overboard to do that it'll also probably create lag for slow connections. Cheaters don't require such a large overreaction.
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No, there is no other reason. Also you can't even catch cheaters with it, considering you have to install it and it's not mandatory. Xwis has more than enough bandwidth. Using it is basically a way of saying "I'm not going to cheat (anymore)". Cheating had gone way out of hand since I've gotten banned.
And Olaf, could you please answer my questions or reply to the mail I sent you exactly a week ago? Thanks babe!
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I'm no talking about xwis when someone forces your computer to to upload a image it uses your upload bandwidth some people have very small upload speed that will cause players to suffer from extreme lag during the process.
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First of, it's NOT XWIS. The XWIS image uploader is unrelated to TT.
Second, you download and install TT voluntarily and the screenshot functionality is mentioned and documented.
Third, you would rather be banned of a server than having it lag for maybe a few minutes and then being able to stay?
Fourth, PLEASE tell me you're trolling...
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Was taking about the ra and strike team screen shot but yes if you have paid of very little bandwidth you'll be pissed if someone is wasting you money because they think you're cheating. Just because it's documented doesn't make it legal it's still unauthorized unless the user accepts a terms of service or has the ability to deny it.
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465667 is a reply to message #465665] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 20:11 |
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LOL, chill Brandy. <_< It's your choice whether you download it or not. You're made aware of what it is and what it does. It basically hooks the screenshot function within the game and fires it every so many frames. If you're a fair player there's no problem, if you're a cheater and can stop, well that's good for you but if you can't then just don't use it until there's a hack around it or roll your own, shouldn't be that hard. 
Also as a private person you won't have any success sueing a big-ass company like EA, they make sure anything they do stays legal with their EULAs and whatever. I mean they can fucking ban you for no reason from the services you have paid for and still win in court.
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| Brandan wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 21:09 |
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465668 is a reply to message #465667] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 21:07 |
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I know a person who sued EA for their SecruROM not being added into their EULA and won in a California court (Spores? I think it was called). Something about how someones DVD rom lit on fire because of it I dont exactly remember the reason behind it. Also in addition the person (you) wouldn't sue isn't EA because EA doesn't own TT/Stike Team uploader. Just saying people with low bandwidth would be very mad especially if they're paying for each megabyte they download. Probably if you care that much you could probably null the requests or hex edit if the game doesn't use checksums.
Theres actually several lawsuits that won for the spores DRM.
https://www.google.com/search?btnG=1&pws=0&q=ea%10sued%10spores%10securo m
Thanks also for taking the time to be extra creepy, its even direct from the Facebook server ^^. Could have just gotten it from our project site http://roleplay2.com
(Personally I like the screenshot picture (server owner) it allows us to track bugs easier, would like it to notify the user of this illegal screen capture through)
~ Brandan Tyler Lasley
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| Re: XWIS DOWN [message #465673 is a reply to message #465672] |
Fri, 06 April 2012 22:14 |
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| Jerad Gray wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 22:12 |
| ThisLittleGirl wrote on Fri, 06 April 2012 23:04 |
You look really cute, haha! But get a proper haircut with side swept bangs and you'll look friggin' hot!
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He's a homosexual furry in reallife so don't get too attached.
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Oh Yeah Jerad I love that...
uh. cow dick?
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You're one to talk I asked for more boobies in RP2 awhile ago.
(This thread is going to go south very fast even worse than it was before)
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