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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462460 is a reply to message #462106] Fri, 17 February 2012 13:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What I forgot to mention... WHY THE RETARDED CONSOLE-based WEAPON LIMIT? I hate it that suddenly every game needs to "go realistic" and thus allow you to carry maybe 3 weapons.

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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462461 is a reply to message #462106] Fri, 17 February 2012 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe Havoc suffers from muscular dystrophy now? His face looks fucking weird. The whole 2-3 weapon limit bullshit ruined Duke Nukem Forever for me, I spent half the time--that I wasn't spending hiding behind cover like a fucking pussy--checking around for ammo and switching around guns.

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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462465 is a reply to message #462461] Fri, 17 February 2012 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You guys are forgetting that the weapon limit is there to make you to play smarter and tactically. You conserve ammo, use the right weapon per situation, and overall just play smarter because that's what you do irl. LMFAO!!!

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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462466 is a reply to message #462106] Fri, 17 February 2012 15:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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was Ren-X's plan to make it more like real life? hopefully their nuclear missiles will destroy more than just a 50-foot radius Surprised

i think one reason renegade has always worked for me is because it's not trying to be realistic


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462473 is a reply to message #462106] Fri, 17 February 2012 19:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Quote:

i think one reason renegade has always worked for me is because it's not trying to be realistic


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462477 is a reply to message #462465] Sat, 18 February 2012 02:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Starbuzz wrote on Fri, 17 February 2012 23:08

You guys are forgetting that the weapon limit is there to make you to play smarter and tactically. You conserve ammo, use the right weapon per situation, and overall just play smarter because that's what you do irl. LMFAO!!!

Lame excuse put there by console-game-makers because it's not easily possible to switch between a lot of weapons on consoles. This because there are only so many buttons.

If it were just for the realistic argument, then I would expect you to only be able to carry 2 weapons, a small weapon and a rifle. Not a sidearm, assault and sniperrifle.


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462479 is a reply to message #462106] Sat, 18 February 2012 05:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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they need large pockets for c4 and beacons then Surprised

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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462481 is a reply to message #462106] Sat, 18 February 2012 06:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I deem this a failed project. Nothing more, nothing less.
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462491 is a reply to message #462481] Sat, 18 February 2012 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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hahaha EWD, I agree with you! That's why that was a trollpost with a lmfao in the end lols! I was mocking such "realistic" games.

It's so sad that most shooters are all "realistic" macho military sims and people play this crap.

I started playing back in 1994 and the first shooters I played in the right order was: Doom 2, Wolf 3D, and Blake Stone. Amazing standards!

And the reason why I like Renegade so much is because there is no crap weapon limit and it falls between a total TD conversion and a pure sci-fi game.

I don't know when games were supposed to be all macho realistic. I still load up Serious Sam: The First Encounter and play the first level...the bright sunshine, the green palm trees, the clouds, the temple area, the swimming pool, and most brilliantly of all the soothing music. easily the best scene of any game I ever played...such a beautiful vacation-type atmosphere.

The ReneX folks should get working on a proper C&C Mode to get a solid base of players going in a server that will never be empty. They can use this server to observe their work and make any changes. After that's out, they can work on other "realistic" modes which will feature bigger asymmetrical maps, tech buildings to capture, and realistic weapon-limits.


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462492 is a reply to message #462106] Sat, 18 February 2012 11:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They should, but will they? You'll probably just get told "Oh, it's internal, we're doing all this stuff but hey it's internal and did we tell you that EA and other people are pushing us to release? Haha wait I shouldn't tell you that since it was internal or something lol"
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462595 is a reply to message #462106] Tue, 21 February 2012 10:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Find it kind of odd that some of the biggest voices in this thread have/are part of projects that are missing deadlines and releasing buggy completions of it as well.

Isn't it just 'common' to do just that (miss deadlines, buggy) when you are donating your time on something that makes you no money?


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462603 is a reply to message #462595] Tue, 21 February 2012 12:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speedy059 wrote on Tue, 21 February 2012 18:26

Find it kind of odd that some of the biggest voices in this thread have/are part of projects that are missing deadlines and releasing buggy completions of it as well.

Isn't it just 'common' to do just that (miss deadlines, buggy) when you are donating your time on something that makes you no money?

You're suggesting TT perhaps? While we haven't stated hard deadlines, we have missed targets, yes. However, we have been fixing shit ever since the first private beta and people should notice how things are working better and better. RenX started all over again (or so it seems) but some bugs still remain.

Another thing, compared to TT. We have decided that we wouldn't pay (much) intention to SP. Not much as we try not to break it, but we're not sure here. Why? Because we know that we need multiplayer to be even remotely successful. This shouldn't be any different for RenX, unless they try to appeal to an entirely different audience.


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462623 is a reply to message #462106] Tue, 21 February 2012 15:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Someone's work having bugs doesn't mean that you're immune from criticism for your own bugs.
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462625 is a reply to message #462595] Tue, 21 February 2012 15:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Speedy059 wrote on Tue, 21 February 2012 10:26

Find it kind of odd that some of the biggest voices in this thread have/are part of projects that are missing deadlines and releasing buggy completions of it as well.

Isn't it just 'common' to do just that (miss deadlines, buggy) when you are donating your time on something that makes you no money?

Huh? Rocked Over


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462670 is a reply to message #462106] Wed, 22 February 2012 12:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I knew better...but I thought maybe some insight would be better than none. Obviously I was wrong. Most here seem to not like any answer given except for what they want to hear.
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462679 is a reply to message #462106] Wed, 22 February 2012 16:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Likewise, you seem to only care about the replies if they're what you want to hear. Don't take this personal - I just don't see what you're trying to accomplish by dismissing legitimate concerns about your team's work.

On a completely unrelated subject, I work with several Full Sail graduates. I thought of you when they mentioned it. Do you still live in the Orlando area? I work down the road from FS on University Blvd.
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #462698 is a reply to message #462679] Thu, 23 February 2012 10:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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We need to fix w3d engine's lame 50 weapon limit.

Jk, anything is better than 3 guns.


Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463538 is a reply to message #462106] Sat, 03 March 2012 12:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Kirby098 here.

I'm a little late to the debate but wanted to offer thoughts on the SP thing.

Disclaimer: I haven't actually played the new campaign but based off feedback I see in the community: I actually feel a little responsible for what is being said.

A couple years back they asked me to write a SP campaign based off my work with EA, Renevo and my scorpion's tale story hosted in this forum in addition to some other work on a different site.

Due to life's convolutions in a layoff and my great desire to feed my family through employment I had to leave the effort, and the SP campaign I started was abandoned in a mutual agreement that they weren't going to do SP for a while and my lack of time while pursuing work.

Writing is an art and passion similar to what talented digital artists and code monkeys do and are just as essential for quality games. I would expect about as good a product from an animator writing SP as I would from me trying to do quality rendering.

That being said, I appreciate what they are trying to do and in keeping my fav game alive even 10 years after Beta.


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463646 is a reply to message #462679] Mon, 05 March 2012 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Wed, 22 February 2012 16:28

Do you still live in the Orlando area? I work down the road from FS on University Blvd.



Used to live down there too. My personal Fav: The Taco Bell between classes and walking by that BBQ place on the way home.




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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463651 is a reply to message #462106] Mon, 05 March 2012 15:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm too far away from FS to walk there... My office is very close to UCF. Would be several miles worth of driving just to get over that way.

So what happened to your old account? Do you still live in the area?
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463655 is a reply to message #463651] Mon, 05 March 2012 15:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Oh, waaaay down there. Ha.

I moved to this one a long time ago after disabling kirby098 in saome stupid protest over some stupid thing back when my brain stem was still forming higher functions. I think I have another KIRBY-098 as well, but I'll just stick with this one as it ties to my military service which is a fonder memory than post beta renforums battling. Smile

I moved after the FS debacle to the seattle area and then moved again thanks to the aforementioned layoff to Arizona, which I highly recommend by the way.

I still get back to O town on occassion for business but haven't in some time.

I am actually surprised you stayed in FL with the heavy GAME industry prescence in WA.


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463656 is a reply to message #462106] Mon, 05 March 2012 15:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Things we did years ago do look a bit silly, I agree. You should go back and look at my old posts. They're near incomprehensible without taking context into account.

What do you mean by "FS debacle"? Also, next time you're in Orlando, yell at me. I'm always up for lunch. Speaking of game development, I do that on my own time. I work in simulation right now. Much more stable work, better pay, better hours, better benefits, etc... Generally, just better overall.
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463657 is a reply to message #463656] Mon, 05 March 2012 15:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I know the context so they're pretty damn funny even today. We had some good debates from time to time. Big Ups

Full Sail was a complete disaster for me. It turns out raising babies and attending a compressed format code school isn't a good mix especially when babies get sick and the teachers are recently graduated students who are more interested in WOW than designing a curriculum that is comprehensible to someone who hasn't been living code in mom's basement.

Still paying on that little mistake, but ironically I make twice what I would have had I graduated, and at a quarter the cost.

Pretty good ROI all told and I still got to live the dream a little.


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Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463663 is a reply to message #462106] Mon, 05 March 2012 16:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's a shame that their team doesn't have the same attitude that you do. I think their project has a lot of potential that's being wasted by being hostile to criticism, and I'm really getting tired of the "free game" mantra that seems to have been adopted by half-wits who feel the need to defend something they don't even work on.

I went through the same experience in college. I was raising my daughter, working, and going to college simultaneously. It was a lot of work, but I'm glad I spent the time and the effort to do it. I'm glad to see that life worked out for you after all. You live in Phoenix now, so I trust you've stopped by and seen Crimson already?
Re: Renegade-X Black Dawn [message #463673 is a reply to message #463663] Mon, 05 March 2012 20:06 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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No I haven't. I spend most of my weekends working or doing church stuff. No time to even game to be honest.

I do plan to see vlok again and finally meet Dante someday but it will likely never come to pass the way life is going.



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