| bug screen freezes [message #461683] |
Fri, 13 January 2012 14:57  |
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I would like to report a bug that seems to happen in a very consistent way. It happens mostly in the first few minutes of the map:
- At a certain point the game freezes, sounds seem to keep running just fine.
- After about 45 secs the game unfreezes and everything seems to be back to normal, apart from the fact it shows gameplay pending and disconnect after 5 secs.
- The game does not crash, so as far as I know no crash dumb has been generated.
- So far it happened on every map/game I've played.
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461692 is a reply to message #461683] |
Fri, 13 January 2012 17:32  |
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I've had this happen to my old PC years ago and there have been multiple topics about it by other people over the years, it only affected Renegade for me and those topics were made years before 4.0 was even released.
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461739 is a reply to message #461683] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 15:02 |
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I haven't played any other games. Will try this out.
I am running on a GTX 295. Hope it is not dieing... 
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I had very similar issues when my graphics card was dieing
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Could you describe your issues at that particular moment?
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461746 is a reply to message #461683] |
Sun, 15 January 2012 17:03 |
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It's pretty much what you described really. Screen freezes, can't do anything for quite a long time. Then everything continues. Later I got artifacts and such and eventually it broke completely. But testing other games is probably the best way to find out. It could very well be somethings else too, maybe a driver issue or something else. Since you're the only one who has reported it so far and it's a hard to miss thing I doubt it is a TT issue though. (But it can't be excluded.)
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461877 is a reply to message #461683] |
Fri, 20 January 2012 06:21 |
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- Windows key des not work, it only deploys the mouse cursor
- Num lock led does not toggle
- It also happend in windowed mode
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461905 is a reply to message #461683] |
Sat, 21 January 2012 06:44 |
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| lion wrote on Fri, 13 January 2012 21:57 |
I would like to report a bug that seems to happen in a very consistent way. It happens mostly in the first few minutes of the map:
- At a certain point the game freezes, sounds seem to keep running just fine.
- After about 45 secs the game unfreezes and everything seems to be back to normal, apart from the fact it shows gameplay pending and disconnect after 5 secs.
- The game does not crash, so as far as I know no crash dumb has been generated.
- So far it happened on every map/game I've played.
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Don't know the rationale behind it, but I have to reinstall ren every 1-2 years to fix it...
I haven't reinstalled in like 4 years so its pretty bad for me at the moment
Jamie is a guys name in Europe...
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461909 is a reply to message #461905] |
Sat, 21 January 2012 11:54 |
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When I had issues like this is was actually an issue of the hard drive having issues retrieving data from a bad cluster, I delta with it tell the drive had enough bad sectors to the point one was eventually located in the os's location, then I couldn't deal with it anymore once windows started locking up lol.
Beings only certain clusters were going bad on the harddrive only some programs would show the effect, and thus I'd be able to rename the folder and install a new copy and have it all work again (I did the rename to make sure nothing else I installed would install into the same bad sector, thus causing the problem all over).
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461926 is a reply to message #461909] |
Sun, 22 January 2012 09:57 |
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| Jerad Gray wrote on Sat, 21 January 2012 11:54 |
When I had issues like this is was actually an issue of the hard drive having issues retrieving data from a bad cluster, I delta with it tell the drive had enough bad sectors to the point one was eventually located in the os's location, then I couldn't deal with it anymore once windows started locking up lol.
Beings only certain clusters were going bad on the harddrive only some programs would show the effect, and thus I'd be able to rename the folder and install a new copy and have it all work again (I did the rename to make sure nothing else I installed would install into the same bad sector, thus causing the problem all over).
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So far for me it only happened in Renegade, not outside of it or in any other game.
What do you suggest? Installing a new copy of Renegade on another drive?
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461969 is a reply to message #461683] |
Mon, 23 January 2012 09:50 |
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Might be worth running checkdisk just to be on the safe side?
@Jerad2142
A drive developing bad clusters regularly is often a sign that the drive is on it's last legs and is going to completely die at some point in the near future. If it was me I would have made sure to get up-to-date backups of everything on the drive and look into replacing it ASAP. Then again, some drives can develop loads of bad sectors yet be otherwise perfectly healthy... but there's no point taking risks with your data!
Oh, and if you had run checkdisk it should have flagged the sectors as bad and avoided writing to them in future anyway. No need to leave the damaged files in the filesystem.
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461973 is a reply to message #461683] |
Mon, 23 January 2012 16:24 |
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UPDATE:
I installed ren on another pc (my laptop) to see if it fixed the problem. Surprisingly it did not fix the problem. So right now I guess it is a problem with my internet/network connection and TT patch (the bug does not occur on v.1.037)...
Any suggestions?
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461986 is a reply to message #461969] |
Mon, 23 January 2012 19:56 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Mon, 23 January 2012 09:50 |
Might be worth running checkdisk just to be on the safe side?
@Jerad Gray
A drive developing bad clusters regularly is often a sign that the drive is on it's last legs and is going to completely die at some point in the near future. If it was me I would have made sure to get up-to-date backups of everything on the drive and look into replacing it ASAP. Then again, some drives can develop loads of bad sectors yet be otherwise perfectly healthy... but there's no point taking risks with your data!
Oh, and if you had run checkdisk it should have flagged the sectors as bad and avoided writing to them in future anyway. No need to leave the damaged files in the filesystem.
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Check disk didn't catch them, however spinrite would lock up on the spots, thus I was able to make the bad spots (by marking where it froze at percent and resuming after that percent) until I had knew what area of the hard drive was bad, I then partitioned that area (once again by percent) off. This hard drive lasted a while, and then died later after the drive from my college to my house.
In the end I figured out that moving back and forth from college was killing them, I eventually added additional padding to my computer when I transported it, and since then I haven't had to replace any more hard drives, prior to that I was going though about one a year lol.
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| Re: bug screen freezes [message #461994 is a reply to message #461991] |
Tue, 24 January 2012 06:17 |
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| danpaul88 wrote on Tue, 24 January 2012 01:50 |
So long as you shut the PC down properly and you're not jumping up and down with it on a bouncy castle moving it shouldn't damage the hard drive... if it did laptops would be completely screwed lol.
Modern hard drives typically park the head in a special area to the side of the disk upon shutdown / power loss, rather than landing on the disk surface itself.
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Nah, always shut down correctly, maybe someone went cheap in the header department.
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