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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459681 is a reply to message #459591] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 08:11   |
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Seriously guys, I know this is the heated discussions subforum but still... Removed some of the worst spam, now please keep a tiny bit of decency.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459682 is a reply to message #459681] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 08:27 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sat, 19 November 2011 08:11 |
Seriously guys, I know this is the heated discussions subforum but still... Removed some of the worst spam, now please keep a tiny bit of decency.
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I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459683 is a reply to message #459681] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 08:49 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sat, 19 November 2011 07:11 |
Censored some of what I don't like, now please keep a tiny bit of decency.
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459687 is a reply to message #459658] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 11:33 |
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| appshot wrote on Sat, 19 November 2011 01:51 |
Airshitkilla your map is awesome! People who criticize it are just stoopid! And thank god you don't allow criticism of your map! i love rollin thru da woods my nigga! so much fun when you crash into a thousand trees before you reach the other base! and then since FPS is so low.. it makes the experience even better! your map is fucking fresh dood keep doin work!
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Holy fucking fuck! It's been a while since I've seen anyone really try and step up to me. Let's do this thing.
As stated many times, I actively encourage criticism. What I discourage is "hurr i haet teh map cuz i cant use teh haevoc on 0rcas loolll" or anything similar to it. If you can prove your point in a legible manner, I'm quite open to changing gameplay ideas. I've even solicited them, too. But wait, you don't read that stuff, do you? Must be too hard.
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Hey, those woods you speak of? See, the same thing happens in real life. Ever try driving through the woods? You get hung up on shit. Try using the roads, bro. I know that requires "thinking" (How does it work?) and "logic" but hey, you could even ignore logic and take a stroll through the shallow river. There are three easily accessible, non-forested areas for you to travel through with a vehicle. They make it easier for infantry to survive in the open. They're not meant to be vehicle-friendly. Must be too hard to understand.
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I will concede that the framerates are a problem, but only if you're running a system that was built in 2003 to 2005. If you're using a system that old, please explain to me why it's my fault that you feel compelled to play my work and whine about it. I'll gladly read any of your obviously well thought-out responses on the matter!
Liquid: <3
I'm sorry for trollin' you bro. You know I heart you. At least, now you do.
FlaminGunz:
If I call you mad, that means I'm mad? What the fuck, is this third grade's opposite day on Wednesday? "NO YOU'RE MAD BECAUSE IT'S OPPOSITE DAY LOL YOU SAY I'M MAD BUT IT MEANS YOU'RE MAD LOLOL"
I hate to dispel your lovely illusion that my head is planted inside Crimson's rectum, since it's such a tantalizing vision of where I'd love my head to be right now. You know me all too well. Unfortunately, the reality is that Crimson and I disagree on a lot of things, while simultaneously agreeing on others. We're friends. We do that. Do you have friends? Do you have any that you care about enough to stick up for against e-thugs like yourself? Keep thuggin' bro. You're so eloquent.
Also, it would be great if you'd quote what I actually said, instead of what you think I said. I said "terminal brain illness", not "terminal illness", which is a completely different thing. If you have a terminal brain illness you might as well be in a vegetative state. Or would you prefer to live like Terri Schavio?
Shaitan:
Re: Irony
/#OCH OCCUPY CRIMSON'S HOUSE AT N00BPARTY
//MAKE PEOPLE GET MAD OVER RENEGADE
///WATCH THEM STAY MAD YEARS LATER
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459699 is a reply to message #459591] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 14:47 |
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not liking the trees or fps being too low is still a valid criticism. look up what criticism means. you actively enoucrage criticism? HA keep posting ur bullshit. Also, renegade isn't meant to be realistic... i thought you would be smart enough to realize this. nice faulty the map itself isn't even a realistic battle map if its intention was even suppose to be realistic. analogy there. also my laptop isnt from 1980s dood. i bought it a year ago. i dont feel compelled to play it, just sharing my criticism of your map, which you can't accept. i like your diction, though! words like obvious legible and all that bullcrap. have you taken a rhetoric class or something?
anyway here's some advice: take ur giant fat head out of your asshole.
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459700 is a reply to message #459591] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 14:51 |
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ur posts are bad... yea its criticism, u deserve it, look it up. check and mate, game and match.
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Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
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FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459705 is a reply to message #459699] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 17:53 |
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| appshot wrote on Sat, 19 November 2011 16:47 |
not liking the trees or fps being too low is still a valid criticism. look up what criticism means. you actively enoucrage criticism? HA keep posting ur bullshit. Also, renegade isn't meant to be realistic... i thought you would be smart enough to realize this. nice faulty the map itself isn't even a realistic battle map if its intention was even suppose to be realistic. analogy there. also my laptop isnt from 1980s dood. i bought it a year ago. i dont feel compelled to play it, just sharing my criticism of your map, which you can't accept. i like your diction, though! words like obvious legible and all that bullcrap. have you taken a rhetoric class or something?
anyway here's some advice: take ur giant fat head out of your asshole.
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Yes, I actively encourage criticism. As I've stated many times. Hey, even from the original post of Fjords: | Quote: |
It was a pleasure working with everyone, I appreciate all of your bug reports and nitpicking. Your help made this become a reality.
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Must be too hard for you to bother substantiating your posts with evidence, though. ;-( Regarding "criticism", you're giving me negative criticism. This is fine, it's the way you choose to express yourself. I am giving your criticism my own negative criticism. This is the way I choose to express myself.  If you wish to discuss the merits of the work I've designed, and the problems you feel that it has, I am more than willing to listen to you. I am not interested in doublespeak that attempts to disguise shitty criticism with actual helpful advice, which could be used to improve your gameplay experience and help you stop complaining.
I'm not sure what you're talking about when you mention "not a realistic battle map". It's not meant to be a "realistic battle map", it's meant to be a highly detailed (for Renegade, anyhow) outdoor environment that resembles a Norwegian fjord.
I haven't taken any "rhetoric class" - I am simply a person who reads often and uses words to express what I feel, instead of consistently relying upon catch phrases and simplistic language.
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459706 is a reply to message #459591] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 19:10 |
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I think what people mean to say is that they are displaying their criticism, yet no actions are being taken on it.
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Ramb8(to RamBonerUpAss) fuk u big ashole u a big jakass i stick my ramboner up u as
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Crush gives away med tanks like he gives away handjobs, everyday and as much as possible
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459712 is a reply to message #459591] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 20:44 |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correlation_does_not_imply_causation
In this case, it's due to several factors: I didn't feel like using Renegade's outdated visibility system. It would have taken up my computer for at least 24 hours. There's some technical aspects to it as well, such as the fact that I didn't combine all of the trees into individual meshes. I kept them as separate objects to cast shadows on dynamic objects. If I make another version of Fjords, it'll have optimized tree geometry along with some other optimizations.
There's more to it than that, though, and I'm not sure what it is. It probably boils down to this being a shitty old engine that doesn't utilize multiple core processors or properly use the GPU/available RAM.
Regardless, the fact that only a handful of people experience "massive framerate losses" is more likely attributable to them having inferior hardware than anything else.
So, in summation:
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| Re: what've i missed? [message #459720 is a reply to message #459591] |
Sat, 19 November 2011 23:48 |
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Aircraftkiller
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Since when do you speak for 90% of the users who play? It's more like a vocal minority of players. I'm not interested in toning down the details I've put into this just so some people stop whining about their old Dell systems from 2003 having problems.
It's 2011, if you can't run a level that was designed using a computer built in 2007 you might want to reconsider PC gaming.
In all fairness, though, I am looking into seeing if the "combined meshes" technique will improve frames. If it isn't the trees causing the problem then I'll have to dig deeper into this.
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