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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453151 is a reply to message #453141] |
Fri, 02 September 2011 15:50   |
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| Xpert wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 11:49 |
| Hitman wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 08:58 |
offcourse xpert will act like an ass, if TT gets to atomix he wont be able to cheat anymore and everyone will be on to him LOL
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Considering I use 4.0... Cool logic. You're basically saying 4.0 fails at anticheat. Moron. Go back to sucking please.
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as far as i can recall u were the one that sucked, regardless of cheating or not, go lead atomix to win a comm war... N00BS LOLOLOL!OLo
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453212 is a reply to message #452758] |
Sat, 03 September 2011 19:47 |
shaitan
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Atomix most likely will not be the only one going this route. MP's MissionDm modifications are picky as well...so who knows if we can even run 4.0/port over to 4.0. If we had to choose between "new" or keeping the "old", the old would win hands down...for now at any rate.
On a personal issue, I dislike the "forced" approach I'm seeing discussed here. Keep it the way it was originally planned...server-to-server, please.
| Aircraftkiller wrote on Sun, 18 Jan 2004 07:38 |
I get along with people fine, so long as they aren't rejects who promised things that they couldn't
deliver on, or forum trolls who contribute nothing except to bloat the fragile egos of the same
rejects I despise.
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453216 is a reply to message #453214] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 03:19 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sun, 04 September 2011 10:01 |
Eh? It was never planned server by server, it was "planned" through the auto updater.
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This, really. I'd personally be in favor of a forced release of the Anti-Cheat; but I totally understand the concerns from server owners with a heavily modded server.
| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 19:47 |
Every so often, I get this positive feeling that humanity can somehow, possibly attain pure awesomeness, and enlightenment, and that there is light at the end of the road for us all. However, I only need to go to the latest HUD thread at RenForums to remind me of how dumb I was for thinking such stupid things.
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453218 is a reply to message #452758] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 03:25 |
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Goztow
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TT players can also play on non tt servers. It's just that those servers won't be fully cheat protected. No problem for me. I don't see why those servers wouldn't support tt.
You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453255 is a reply to message #452758] |
Sun, 04 September 2011 19:53 |
Wilo
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I am supporting TT as long as it can meet my needs as a server owner. I will be porting my AOW over completely but due to the limitations at this time I will not be porting my Co-Op Maps.
I understand St0rm has this bad rep I guess, I am gonna find out why in a post on here later but, I do support this as a Forced Client update. Server wise I think the servers should be able to chose if they want to update.
It would be best to do a release without a force first, advertize like hell, and have who ever is a major server support it just advertize, then we switch to forced by the servers and then we for a full force client side, but never make the server owner have to use 4.0 if they don't want to.
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Wilo S.
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453292 is a reply to message #453255] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 01:20 |
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| Wilo wrote on Mon, 05 September 2011 04:53 |
I am supporting TT as long as it can meet my needs as a server owner. I will be porting my AOW over completely but due to the limitations at this time I will not be porting my Co-Op Maps.
I understand St0rm has this bad rep I guess, I am gonna find out why in a post on here later but, I do support this as a Forced Client update. Server wise I think the servers should be able to chose if they want to update.
It would be best to do a release without a force first, advertize like hell, and have who ever is a major server support it just advertize, then we switch to forced by the servers and then we for a full force client side, but never make the server owner have to use 4.0 if they don't want to.
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As far as I know there isn't any kind of automated system to update servers, so even if we wanted to, we couldn't force update all the servers.
This isn't immeadiately a problem, as TT clients are able to talk to non-TT servers just as happily as TT servers.
BlackIntel admin/founder/PR dude (not a coder)
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453300 is a reply to message #452758] |
Mon, 05 September 2011 02:28 |
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As I recall servers do actually support auto-update in the same way as clients, that was part of the reason behind RenegadeServer.exe just running server.dat... the parent exe would kill the child process when it needed to update.
Since all servers are 1.037 from the start these days this mechanism hasn't been used in years, so who knows if it still works... especially since most servers just run server.dat directly and bypass RenegadeServer.exe...
Not 100% sure on this but I seem to think that's what used to happen.
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453779 is a reply to message #452758] |
Fri, 09 September 2011 10:53 |
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Just tell people non-updaters will get sodomized by raven. Suddenly 98% of players will update. I and TD will probably not update because we like it.
Also, one problem I have been noticing, is that people don't want to update and help test this thing because they're terrified of the word "beta".
At Jelly I've noticed several guys don't want to help test this because, well, it has bugs. I'm not sure if this is out of ignorance, but if people don't help test it won't get any better.
Any ideas on how to fix this problem? I can't imagine this problem is just in Jelly.
I bring this up because a forced update won't happen if the patch doesn't meet what EA wants, a bug free, stable patch, meet their "quality standards". (Which IMO is funny since EA released Ren in a horrible condition)
If we can't get 4.0 bug free, then we can forget about this entire discussion of whether it should be forced. EA won't take it.
I think we should focus on step 1 and that is trying to convince players that just because it's beta doesn't mean it's bad. Maybe try educating people on how to create a 2nd ren install?
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| Re: Forced release upon all Renegade users? [message #453812 is a reply to message #452758] |
Fri, 09 September 2011 12:15 |
StealthEye
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It's up to them if they want to run beta software. Hopefully they will reconsider when we have fixed the bugs that exist currently. Sure, it would be preferred if they'd help in the beta test, but if they don't want to, there's no need to force them. They can always switch to TT when it is more stable.
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