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I have to write a 1000 word essay on a piece of technology that has caused more problems then it has solved, and write a solution for it. Does anyone have any ideas?
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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447284 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 15:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Automobile. Easy.

edit:

Positives:
-Easier/faster personal travel over longer distances
-Created a hobby for enthusiasts(honestly can't think of any more)

Negatives:
-Pollution
-Discourages exercise/makes people lazy
-Rapidly consumes natural resources
-Brought many safety hazards into modern society (crossing the street, car accidents, mechanical malfunction, etc.)

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Nuclear weapons? Could be argued either way.

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Crimson wrote on Mon, 16 May 2011 00:12

Nuclear weapons? Could be argued either way.

TBH I immediately wanted to post nukes when I read the topic Razz


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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447288 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 15:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Weaponry is too easy. Pick something that's debatable on both sides, such as razor's automobile idea for instance.

Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447290 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Video games in general. they give nothing but a simple pass time and sometimes claim people lives (over addiction).

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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447295 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 16:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The car idea is great, but I was also thinking of the Nuclear Bomb (H-Bomb), but I may do the car thing, I believe I can get alot out of it!

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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447296 is a reply to message #447284] Sun, 15 May 2011 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 15:06

Automobile. Easy.

edit:

Positives:
-Easier/faster personal travel over longer distances
-Created a hobby for enthusiasts(honestly can't think of any more)

Negatives:
-Pollution
-Discourages exercise/makes people lazy
-Rapidly consumes natural resources
-Brought many safety hazards into modern society (crossing the street, car accidents, mechanical malfunction, etc.)



But if you weigh the pros against the cons, are are the negatives really greater than the positives?





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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447297 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 17:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're asking if polluting the planet, robbing it of natural resources, and causing safety hazards is outweighed by getting from point A to point B faster than you could on foot?

No, I don't believe it is. When you really get down to it, a car's purpose is just to get you places. You can do that through other means that don't have the negatives of a car. A car's true appeal lies solely within its convenience. It's an invention of luxury... as in people won't die if they don't have a car; they aren't necessary for life.
Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447299 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You've totally neglected the whole 'transportation of goods' aspect, which was kind of a big deal for influencing how well we live.

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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447300 is a reply to message #447297] Sun, 15 May 2011 17:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So would you not drive ever again because it is polluting the planet and "robbing the resources"?

I know my families way of life is based on the car, I know you families way of life (unless your a menaknight (sp?)) is based on the car.

My dad is a truck driver, he has been one for the better part of my life (at least 14 years). He has probably driven more backwards than most people forwards. He gets maybe 6mpg in his truck.

Yet, if your so concerned with the planet, you won't stop buying food from the grocery stores, you won't stop buying needs/luxuries at wal-mart or wherever it is you shop at (I am just assuming). all this is delivered by truck which I classify as an auto mobile.

So unless you think walking/riding your bike/taking the bus to the manufacturer for your computer, or to the farmer for your food, then don't tell me a car is more of a con than a pro because I really don't think it is.


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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447301 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 18:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Actually, no I don't drive.

And I'm not saying a car isn't useful. I'm merely responding to the question that was asked. The idea is to be as controversial as possible. A negative point is a negative point. Something that is good but has a lot of negative points as well does not subtract from its usefulness.

Can you deny that cars consume fuel at an alarming rate or that they are a major cause of pollution? No, you can't because it's true. But does that change the fact that they have a very practical use in society? No, it does not.

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Yes, but your saying it does more bad than good, I am saying the opposite.


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Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447304 is a reply to message #447281] Sun, 15 May 2011 18:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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They do cause more problems though. We, as humans, don't require cars to survive. With all of human history accounted for, cars are only a relatively recent invention. We obviously survived long enough before them, so what makes you so sure that we couldn't continue to do so?

Yes they have their merits, don't get me wrong on that. I'm not saying that cars are a sin against humanity.

The only reason why you're saying cars are more positive than negative is because you've never lived in a society without them. Society today pretty much demands cars... but that is only because society has been built up around the use of them.
Re: Technology that does more bad than good [message #447305 is a reply to message #447304] Sun, 15 May 2011 19:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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So would you prefer living in the 1800's (ignoring the previous inventions that didn't effectively work as a machine that made travel quicker) when we didn't have cars?

Farmers used to have to plow their field with a horse. Now they use harvesters and tractors that allow for enormously large amounts of land to be grown for food and sold.

Since you don't drive, I am going to assume you live in a city where everything is close by. Great, but not everyone has that luxury with the creation of sub division's which (in my city) can be a number of miles away from the grocery store or nearest convenience store.

Society is built upon the creation of fast travel because a lot of people have the option of fast travel.

You say I have never lived in a Society that doesn't depend on cars. I don't think one exists unless your living in some utopia where everyone grows everything they need and all help each other build everything.

What delivers the supplies to build your house? Trucks
What makes food readily available for you to buy and eat? Trucks.

Maybe I am taking it the wrong way, but it irk's me to no end when people bash trucks because they pollute the earth so much. They make life possible, I would know because I spent 14 hours yesterday in a beat up old piece of shit 1978 western star helping my dad deliver a $350 k TerraGator to a farmer 120 miles away from the pickup, and then delivering the tractor he(the customer) had rented to another farmer.

So, I don't pretend to know anything about you personally, but you seem to have an internet connection which suggests your not some menaknight who ignores the technological society and is completely independent from automobiles.

Unless you can give me a society with our (again I am assuming since you have a computer with internet) quality of life that is completely independent from automobiles, than don't say cars are worse than they are good. They may not be good for the planet, and you know what, I am only going to live for a small amount of time, and as harsh as it is to say it, I couldn't care less about global warming. I see it as a marketing scam so people buy "green".


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You aren't getting what I'm saying.

I have absolutely no problem with cars. I only said cars because its controversial and would keep a teacher interested in a paper. I've said this before.

I have no stance to say that cars are bad and are bad for the environment and blah, blah. I honestly don't care. But the fact is I can count more negatives than positives when I look at what they bring to the table.

I'm not saying my opinion is that cars are bad for the environment and it was a mistake to make them. All I'm doing is counting points, disregarding their value.

I proposed it to help him on his paper, not to get into a stupid argument.

Wow, I started way too many sentences with the word "I" there, didn't I? :V

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(SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Sun, 15 May 2011 17:40

I have to write a 1000 word essay on a piece of technology that has caused more problems then it has solved, and write a solution for it. Does anyone have any ideas?


The bottom line is technology itself cannot do more or less harm than good. It's the people using it that make those judgements.



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Automobiles are the best invention human race has made.

How would be transport extremely heavy machinery thousands of miles?

We wouldn't

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What delivers the supplies to build your house? Trucks
What makes food readily available for you to buy and eat? Trucks.


A bunch of animals pulling 5 tons is not going to happen. they would get tired after a few miles. Also how are you going to get mass amount of feed and water to keep them alive. A lot more difficult most parts of the world would never even get reached.

Today's world has it really easy all the supplies they need to live are brought to them.Your only talking about combustible engines that burn oil. Their are several other types of fuels and engines we can use. Oil its just the most effective. Combustible engines are only like 40% effective the rest is just heat. The Tranmission is whats doing all the work. I have a gmc k1500 truck that gets like 12 miles a gallon and its awesome.




Positives most definitively over power the negatives.



R315r4z0r your really over estimating the power of automobiles and their use in society.

SSnipe don't pick automobiles as your topic.




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Gen_Blacky wrote on Mon, 16 May 2011 07:08

Automobiles are the best invention human race has made.

How would be transport extremely heavy machinery thousands of miles?

We wouldn't

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What delivers the supplies to build your house? Trucks
What makes food readily available for you to buy and eat? Trucks.


A bunch of animals pulling 5 tons is not going to happen. they would get tired after a few miles. Also how are you going to get mass amount of feed and water to keep them alive. A lot more difficult most parts of the world would never even get reached.

Today's world has it really easy all the supplies they need to live are brought to them.Your only talking about combustible engines that burn oil. Their are several other types of fuels and engines we can use. Oil its just the most effective. Combustible engines are only like 40% effective the rest is just heat. The Tranmission is whats doing all the work. I have a gmc k1500 truck that gets like 12 miles a gallon and its awesome.




Positives most definitively over power the negatives.



R315r4z0r your really over estimating the power of automobiles and their use in society.

SSnipe don't pick automobiles as your topic.




Think of it as this: If we wouldn't be able to move heavy machinery 1000's of miles, wouldn't we have found a different solution to either not need to move them or make them smaller so we could move it.

Oh and Oil isn't the most effective, it's just the cheapest because we're not paying the real economic price. That's right, oil is CHEAPER than it should be.
The reason green energy is not competitive with oil is that companies look at the ROI and replacement value of things. With solar panels and wind turbines these things are obvious. With oil they are not, as one does not have to invest in oil it self. It's just there, and you only need to invest in a way to "harvest" it. Problem is, normally one would take into account that your company's "stock" would deplete. With oil this does not or has not happened in the past, making oil cheap. Now however it means that oil corporations will face more and more problems due to the decreasing amount of harvestable oil.
The low prices for oil where also an advantage to the industry. Since it was cheap and seemed endless, everyone started to rely on oil and not invest in more durable but expensive alternatives.


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R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 16 May 2011 02:09



Can you deny that cars consume fuel at an alarming rate or that they are a major cause of pollution? No, you can't because it's true. But does that change the fact that they have a very practical use in society? No, it does not.



I'd just like to add that now n days cars/motorbikes are pretty good on fuel. I know my bike does around 120MPG.

Pollution wise... Cars aren't that bad either, I mean people atm are going in about oh noes co2 gases, greenhouse effect.. blah blah blah.. Truth be told its nothing compared to how much 'pollution' cows make with the amount of methane they release.


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Think of it as this: If we wouldn't be able to move heavy machinery 1000's of miles, wouldn't we have found a different solution to either not need to move them or make them smaller so we could move it.



True

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Oh and Oil isn't the most effective, it's just the cheapest because we're not paying the real economic price. That's right, oil is CHEAPER than it should be.


Cheaper and easier to use making it the most effective Tell Me. Oil is still cheaper then bottled water. Its easy to refine and used for many things besides fuel for automobiles. Everything I own has some kind of influence from oil.

Also the industry is not ready to let it go when the big companies are making millions every day. At some point everyone will realize that we need to be less dependent on oil.


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