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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446274 is a reply to message #446272] Wed, 27 April 2011 06:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 15:16

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Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 12:57

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spyder wants to have those damn kids off his lawn

use private torrent trackers...dude. Hell even demonoid is better than usenet and its pretty much a public tracker most of the time


Most private torrent trackers require you to seed up to a specific ratio, else your account will be deleted. Also, you rely completely on the amount of seeders, while with usenet you download straight from the newsservers (always at maximum speed).

So no, private torrent trackers are not better than usenet.

You could also spend your money on games instead of usenet...


I'll stick with usenet, it's cheaper. Besides that, I'm not going to spend any money on a game which I will probably not play anymore after completing the campaign.

It's not like you can actually play the multiplayer part of pirated games, so that's a pretty easy statement to make.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446275 is a reply to message #446183] Wed, 27 April 2011 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can with some of them on cracked servers. Well at least you used to be able to with the call of duties etc.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446281 is a reply to message #446272] Wed, 27 April 2011 12:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 06:16



I'll stick with usenet, it's cheaper. Besides that, I'm not going to spend any money on a game which I will probably not play anymore after completing the campaign.

you know, I hate being the moralfag in situations like this, but goddamn you are the reason why game companies hate developing for the PC.

By the way, there's tons of legitimately free games- are you that much of an asshole that you feel you deserve other games for free?


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446283 is a reply to message #446183] Wed, 27 April 2011 12:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446285 is a reply to message #446281] Wed, 27 April 2011 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 21:08

Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 06:16



I'll stick with usenet, it's cheaper. Besides that, I'm not going to spend any money on a game which I will probably not play anymore after completing the campaign.

you know, I hate being the moralfag in situations like this, but goddamn you are the reason why game companies hate developing for the PC.

By the way, there's tons of legitimately free games- are you that much of an asshole that you feel you deserve other games for free?


I own a PS3 too and I do buy games for that. PS3 games are priced at 67 euros here and that's quite a lot. That's the main reason I don't buy PC games, because I'd rather spend it on a PS3 game for which I can unlock trophies, which kind of force me to play until I have them all.

So I do support game companies, but not with games like CoD, Crysis 2, Battlefield etc. Games like those are way too overpriced for what they actually give you in the end in my honest opinion.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446286 is a reply to message #446285] Wed, 27 April 2011 14:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 21:45

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 21:08

Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 06:16



I'll stick with usenet, it's cheaper. Besides that, I'm not going to spend any money on a game which I will probably not play anymore after completing the campaign.

you know, I hate being the moralfag in situations like this, but goddamn you are the reason why game companies hate developing for the PC.

By the way, there's tons of legitimately free games- are you that much of an asshole that you feel you deserve other games for free?


I own a PS3 too and I do buy games for that. PS3 games are priced at 67 euros here and that's quite a lot. That's the main reason I don't buy PC games, because I'd rather spend it on a PS3 game for which I can unlock trophies, which kind of force me to play until I have them all.

So I do support game companies, but not with games like CoD, Crysis 2, Battlefield etc. Games like those are way too overpriced for what they actually give you in the end in my honest opinion.

Steam achievements.

They even where there before the PSN was there.

Phailstation 3...

Not to mention buying expensive games for the Phailstation while the same game on PC is around 40 euros or lower if you look carefully.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446289 is a reply to message #446285] Wed, 27 April 2011 16:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 12:45

I own a PS3 too and I do buy games for that. PS3 games are priced at 67 euros here and that's quite a lot. That's the main reason I don't buy PC games, because I'd rather spend it on a PS3 game for which I can unlock trophies, which kind of force me to play until I have them all.

So I do support game companies, but not with games like CoD, Crysis 2, Battlefield etc. Games like those are way too overpriced for what they actually give you in the end in my honest opinion.

Ah, I see

So you choose to support a system that companies only prefer (hardly, they seem to prefer the 360, but PS3 is second) because the market for PC isn't as profitable... due to mass pirating. And then you proceed to pirate games for the PC.

Nice.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446293 is a reply to message #446285] Wed, 27 April 2011 22:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 14:45

I'd rather spend it on a PS3 game for which I can unlock trophies, which kind of force me to play until I have them all.

Oh my god. I think I just found the most inane comment on the internet guise.

Enjoy your hijacked acount lol.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446303 is a reply to message #446289] Thu, 28 April 2011 06:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 00:23

Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 12:45

I own a PS3 too and I do buy games for that. PS3 games are priced at 67 euros here and that's quite a lot. That's the main reason I don't buy PC games, because I'd rather spend it on a PS3 game for which I can unlock trophies, which kind of force me to play until I have them all.

So I do support game companies, but not with games like CoD, Crysis 2, Battlefield etc. Games like those are way too overpriced for what they actually give you in the end in my honest opinion.

Ah, I see

So you choose to support a system that companies only prefer (hardly, they seem to prefer the 360, but PS3 is second) because the market for PC isn't as profitable... due to mass pirating. And then you proceed to pirate games for the PC.

Nice.


I wouldnt say they necessarily prefer the 360 as opposed to it makes more sense.

If games were made with what the playstation 3 could handle in mind then games would be much better. But the xbox360 couldnt handle the same which would result in needing to develop separately for both platforms. Whereas if they develop for the 360 then port to the ps3 it probably saves them a shitload of cash and people dont realise what they could be missing out on.

Im not trying to start an argument so xbox360 fanboys please leave it out lol.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446306 is a reply to message #446303] Thu, 28 April 2011 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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grant89uk wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 06:21

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 00:23

Spyder wrote on Wed, 27 April 2011 12:45

I own a PS3 too and I do buy games for that. PS3 games are priced at 67 euros here and that's quite a lot. That's the main reason I don't buy PC games, because I'd rather spend it on a PS3 game for which I can unlock trophies, which kind of force me to play until I have them all.

So I do support game companies, but not with games like CoD, Crysis 2, Battlefield etc. Games like those are way too overpriced for what they actually give you in the end in my honest opinion.

Ah, I see

So you choose to support a system that companies only prefer (hardly, they seem to prefer the 360, but PS3 is second) because the market for PC isn't as profitable... due to mass pirating. And then you proceed to pirate games for the PC.

Nice.


I wouldnt say they necessarily prefer the 360 as opposed to it makes more sense.

If games were made with what the playstation 3 could handle in mind then games would be much better. But the xbox360 couldnt handle the same which would result in needing to develop separately for both platforms. Whereas if they develop for the 360 then port to the ps3 it probably saves them a shitload of cash and people dont realise what they could be missing out on.

Im not trying to start an argument so xbox360 fanboys please leave it out lol.

I didn't say WHY they prefered the 360, but that's actually mostly why, yes. It wasn't meant to be a point, just sort of stating a fact. However, PS3 is still a developer's second choice.

PC is barely in the developer's mind anymore. Often, PC games have console-to-PC ports... and it's terrible.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446307 is a reply to message #446183] Thu, 28 April 2011 07:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Everyone's ranting about PC games being pirated, but what about the 360? It got hacked two weeks after its release and many many people have downloaded games ever since.

The problem with PC games is that every year or two years you have to spend a fair amount of money to upgrade your hardware so that you can run the newest games. However consoles don't need hardware upgrades to run the games released for them and therefore a lot of people prefer console over pc nowadays.

And pirating doesn't change one bit to it.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446308 is a reply to message #446183] Thu, 28 April 2011 07:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dont worry eventually they will get that cloud computing shit going then we wont be able to pirate shit.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446309 is a reply to message #446183] Thu, 28 April 2011 07:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really doubt it that you are never upgrading your console.
I remember that there where a few different versions of the PS2 and the avarage nintendo was usually good for just 3 years in terms of hardware.
( http://www.thegameconsole.com/videogames01.htm )

Dont forget the reason why a PS3 where getting cheaper in the beginning. (Sony wasnt making profit on selling the machine itself BUT they where going to eventually on their games and dont forget buyable content!)

Oh and PC games tend to be backwards compatible.
All in all it's just a matter of preference if there is a difference it will be marginal.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446319 is a reply to message #446307] Thu, 28 April 2011 11:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 07:26

Everyone's ranting about PC games being pirated, but what about the 360? It got hacked two weeks after its release and many many people have downloaded games ever since.

The 360 still doesn't have near the pirate rates because of the difficulty it takes to do that. Yeah, people still do it, but not nearly as much. Even if they WERE pirated as much as PC's, that doesn't give you moral leverage to then pirate every new game for the PC.

Spyder wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 07:26

The problem with PC games is that every year or two years you have to spend a fair amount of money to upgrade your hardware so that you can run the newest games. However consoles don't need hardware upgrades to run the games released for them and therefore a lot of people prefer console over pc nowadays.

And pirating doesn't change one bit to it.


HEY GUESS WHAT? If you're pirating the latest games for your PC, you have the latest hardware! Congrats! So that's yet another piss-poor argument. Besides, you can easily get a PC that costs around 600 dollars and it'll run the majority of games just fine.

Furthermore, you can do something most consoles can't- play older games! That's where the PS3 is disappointing, considering the PS2's backwards compatability.

TL;DR: You're a faggot, and you justify your faggotry with inane, unrelated bullshit.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446322 is a reply to message #446183] Thu, 28 April 2011 12:07 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There is only one type of consumer that is worse than a standard media pirate and that's the type of consumer that pays money to third parties in order to pirate data.

So, not only are you denying the developers the money they earned... you're actually giving that money away to someone completely unrelated!

If you're going to pay money, pay the people who deserve it!

Paying money to pirate stuff might have to be the most stupid, idiotic thing I've heard of so far this year.
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446323 is a reply to message #446322] Thu, 28 April 2011 12:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 14:07

There is only one type of consumer that is worse than a standard media pirate and that's the type of consumer that pays money to third parties in order to pirate data.

So, not only are you denying the developers the money they earned... you're actually giving that money away to someone completely unrelated!

If you're going to pay money, pay the people who deserve it!

Paying money to pirate stuff might have to be the most stupid, idiotic thing I've heard of so far this year.


It's mostly elitist bull shit because Usenet sounds cool. He's too hip to use torrents, ya know?


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446326 is a reply to message #446183] Thu, 28 April 2011 12:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm done with u moralfags
Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446331 is a reply to message #446183] Thu, 28 April 2011 15:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It's not just about morals... it's about common sense..

Why would you opt to pay money to pirate something? That's just stupid...
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R315r4z0r wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 00:08

It's not just about morals... it's about common sense..

Why would you opt to pay money to pirate something? That's just stupid...



Because it's cheaper than the actual product.
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Yeah, but paying nothing is even cheaper!

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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446339 is a reply to message #446335] Thu, 28 April 2011 22:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 18:08

Yeah, but paying nothing is even cheaper!

Yeah, but using some bandwidth while you sleep must cost him more (seeding).

Get away from your shitty ISP bruh.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446340 is a reply to message #446307] Fri, 29 April 2011 00:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spyder wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 16:26

Everyone's ranting about PC games being pirated, but what about the 360? It got hacked two weeks after its release and many many people have downloaded games ever since.

The problem with PC games is that every year or two years you have to spend a fair amount of money to upgrade your hardware so that you can run the newest games. However consoles don't need hardware upgrades to run the games released for them and therefore a lot of people prefer console over pc nowadays.

And pirating doesn't change one bit to it.

Isn't true any more, because consoles. Since consoles haven't changed a bit in the last 5 years, games still have pretty much the same minimum requirements.
I got a secondary PC with a Athlon 64 x2 4800+, 2 GB ram and a HD4870 and can play pretty much everything on it. Perhaps not at the highest settings, but high enough none the less.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446342 is a reply to message #446339] Fri, 29 April 2011 00:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Glock wrote on Fri, 29 April 2011 07:12

R315r4z0r wrote on Thu, 28 April 2011 18:08

Yeah, but paying nothing is even cheaper!

Yeah, but using some bandwidth while you sleep must cost him more (seeding).

Get away from your shitty ISP bruh.

Bandwidth doesn't cost much here in NL. We don't have limits or anything so that's not the problem either.
Only reason not to upload shit is that downloading movies and music is legal. Downloading software (and thus games) is illegal though.
Then again, if you care about that, download from thepiratebay or any other public tracker and don't upload a thing. Easy enough I'd say.


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Re: Duke Nukem Forever [message #446344 is a reply to message #446183] Fri, 29 April 2011 00:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Better watch out when dling pirated stuff. Your isp doesn't care what you download. But big Angy music company's/Hollywood do.
They are basically forcing isp's to share info about people that dl marked files. Then going after them in court.


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