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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 07:33 |
the reason clanwar players get frustrated is because there is hardly any teamwork in public servers. hence why clanwar players almost always go rambo in pubs by sniping or flying ect
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but a lot of clanwars players do a lot more badly in large publics than they seem to find it easy to admit. and how about getting these selfish nooby teamplayers to do the right thing? most clanwars players just bitch and flame at them for not being as "pro" as them, whereas i encourage them to work as a team and let them know the most useful strats etc...
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439464 is a reply to message #439463] |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 08:42 |
| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 07:33 |
the reason clanwar players get frustrated is because there is hardly any teamwork in public servers. hence why clanwar players almost always go rambo in pubs by sniping or flying ect
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but a lot of clanwars players do a lot more badly in large publics than they seem to find it easy to admit. and how about getting these selfish nooby teamplayers to do the right thing? most clanwars players just bitch and flame at them for not being as "pro" as them, whereas i encourage them to work as a team and let them know the most useful strats etc...
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439469 is a reply to message #439171] |
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if "raging" classifies as leaving because the wf died on field and 80% of ur team has been in the tunnel all game, sure cw players rage alot. if raging classifies as telling the entire team they suck balls then no, ive never seen another cw player rage in a pub. honestly the only maps clanwar players will shine on is fly maps, thats not to say theyre not better than almost every1 else on other maps if they tried
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439474 is a reply to message #439469] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:03 |
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| ELiT3FLyR wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 10:15 |
if "raging" classifies as leaving because the wf died on field and 80% of ur team has been in the tunnel all game, sure cw players rage alot. if raging classifies as telling the entire team they suck balls then no, ive never seen another cw player rage in a pub. honestly the only maps clanwar players will shine on is fly maps, thats not to say theyre not better than almost every1 else on other maps if they tried
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like i said before, you don't come anywhere near me at strategy and leadership, especially in big games.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439476 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:16 |
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blablabla im best leader blablabla best strategy aswell derka derka derka
u said you are able to match simpee's skill in anything renegade related other than sniping, and appearantly your better than him at strategies and leading a team("no matter what size of game, but definatly in larger games"), yet simpee won more games than you and had a better W/L @ clanwars and is just rated better by... just about everyone who plays this game
i dont get where you keep pulling this shit from honestly, but from this point its lookin like your trying to claim the superb honor of best player left in a 200 player game by just debating on the forums lol
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439479 is a reply to message #439476] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:28 |
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| Hitman wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 11:16 |
blablabla im best leader blablabla best strategy aswell derka derka derka
u said you are able to match simpee's skill in anything renegade related other than sniping
, and appearantly your better than him at strategies and leading a team("no matter what size of game, but definatly in larger games"), yet simpee won more games than you and had a better W/L @ clanwars and is just rated better by... just about everyone who plays this game
i dont get where you keep pulling this shit from honestly, but from this point its lookin like your trying to claim the superb honor of best player left in a 200 player game by just debating on the forums lol
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oh wait, offcourse spoony was talking about a 100 v 100 game so basically he's the best in games that aren't played by anyone
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i think you'll find it's clanwars that aren't played anymore, whereas big public servers are played quite a lot.
hitman, why do you think you never see me saying "i wasn't really trying" or "my team was full of noobs"? could it be something to do with the fact i win the overwhelming majority of games in public servers and am almost always the biggest contributor to the victory (both due to individual skill and the fact i'm always encouraging my team to do the right strategies instead of bitching at them), so there's no need to make the kind of excuses clanwars "pros" always make for their comparatively unimpressive results?
why, hitman, does it clearly bother you so much that i plainly am a LOT better than simpee in large games? and don't say it doesn't bother you.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439480 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:39 |
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u cant say your better than someone if u haven't even seen him try lead a team, your the only cw.cc person next to whiskey that actually gives a damn about leading a giant team lol
simpee had more succes than u in smaller scale games, and im sure he could atleast match your impact on the game in bigger games if he got in some of em and actually tried...
and if ur the better tactician/leader, why do u not have as much succes in smaller games, sure enough it doesn't pay of in bigger games alone?
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439482 is a reply to message #439480] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:46 |
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| Hitman wrote on Sun, 14 November 2010 11:39 |
u cant say your better than someone if u haven't even seen him try lead a team, your the only cw.cc person next to whiskey that actually gives a damn about leading a giant team lol
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thanks for rephrasing what i said several times already, that most other clanwars players (whiskey probably being the only notable exception besides me) have no grasp of leadership. and again, here come the excuses... "i wasn't trying". if you weren't trying to win and don't win because of it i'm not sure on what basis you call yourself a good player, or in this case, a good leader. do you think you or simpee could have led renforums to the comm match success it's had, given the fact that most of its players hadn't even played comm wars before at all?
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simpee had more succes than u in smaller scale games, and im sure he could atleast match your impact on the game in bigger games if he got in some of em and actually tried...
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again, the excuses come thick and fast. perhaps you missed him saying he leaves games if his team sucks (meanwhile i'm there galvanising my team into doing the right strategy and -gosh- winning), perhaps you missed him saying the only time a "clanwars pro" can really "shine" is on a flying map (what the fuck, lol... always trust simpee to say something really dense)
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and if ur the better tactician/leader, why do u not have as much succes in smaller games, sure enough it doesn't pay of in bigger games alone?
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my results in small games were actually very comparable to simpee's, especially given the fact that nobody ever suspected me of cheating or rulebreaking of any kind (nobody besides simpee and clearshot, who were caught spouting the most deranged lies in the process). and since clanwars aren't played anymore and all we have to look at is public servers and comm matches, why do you keep ignoring the topic at hand (i.e. the games that are actually played) and changing the subject to clanwars that aren't played anymore? i really can't imagine why it bothers you so much to see the obvious fact that i smoke simpee in big games. and it really obviously bothers you, you're going so far out of your way to make excuses for that failure that you don't even seem to have noticed his own excuses for it.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439484 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:47 |
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Personally, i just don't care enough in public servers to try to lead a team. Spoony does, but we're not talking about who leads the best, we're talking about who is individually the best, I thought?
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uh no, leadership is obviously a major factor, and it's equally obvious that most people don't have it.
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Sure, leadership contributes to that, but there's so much more than just leadership. Hell, I'll take a rep bitch who listens over a leader who's trying to do too much anyday.
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or, in my case, a leader who's telling someone to rep you?
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439485 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:51 |
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whatever man
maybe you are the best player left then, cause quite frankly me and alot of others cant be fucked leading our superb public player teams to victory over and over again without anything to gain/to play for other than ladder points which resembles nothing whatsoever
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439486 is a reply to message #439482] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 10:52 |
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thanks for rephrasing what i said several times already, that most other clanwars players (whiskey probably being the only notable exception besides me) have no grasp of leadership. and again, here come the excuses... "i wasn't trying". if you weren't trying to win and don't win because of it i'm not sure on what basis you call yourself a good player, or in this case, a good leader.
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Someone can be a good player when they try, and still be considered a good player. Just because somebody doesn't ALWAYS try, doesn't mean they aren't a good player when they do.
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Given the fact that most of its players hadn't even played comm wars before at all?
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Be that as it may, 95% of the players on our team were still good skill wise, and had brains and ability. They lacked the experience in say, 10v10 games, sure - so that's where you came in. But I don't think that our winning was due to your leadership as much as you seem to.
Renegade isn't split up just between big games and small games, or clanwar and pub players, you know? There's everything in between too...
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or, in my case, a leader who's telling someone to rep you?
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Doesn't take leadership to tell someone to repair me. Leadership involves caring, we all cared enough in the commwar.
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439488 is a reply to message #439486] |
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maybe you are the best player left then, cause quite frankly me and alot of others cant be fucked leading our superb public player teams to victory over and over again without anything to gain/to play for other than ladder points which resembles nothing whatsoever
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again, why does it bother you so much? you can't just admit you "clanwars pros" are not the best after all, you've GOT to say it's because you aren't trying. and who said anything about ladder points? why do you bring that up? i'm trying to make a genuinely good public-server ladder, though you're welcome to not care about that. why not play the game for its own sake, and enjoy winning for its own sake?
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as for why: i just think your gettin really cocky out of nowhere, but have fun leading your public team to victory, by all means ;/
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i will, it's nearly as much fun hearing the "clanwars pros" excuses for why they are not as good at it.
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Someone can be a good player when they try, and still be considered a good player. Just because somebody doesn't ALWAYS try, doesn't mean they aren't a good player when they do.
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you're starting to sound like hitman and simpee.
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Be that as it may, 95% of the players on our team were still good skill wise, and had brains and ability. They lacked the experience in say, 10v10 games, sure - so that's where you came in. But I don't think that our winning was due to your leadership as much as you seem to.
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the one and only reason you think that is that you dislike me personally.
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Renegade isn't split up just between big games and small games, or clanwar and pub players, you know? There's everything in between too...
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is there a point here?
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or, in my case, a leader who's telling someone to rep you?
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Doesn't take leadership to tell someone to repair me. Leadership involves caring, we all cared enough in the commwar.
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again, do you actually have a point here or is it just the empty rhetoric it looks like?
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| Re: Who is the best Renegade player(s) nowadays? [message #439489 is a reply to message #439171] |
Sun, 14 November 2010 11:10 |
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your the only one who just always cares dude, so your the best by default, congrats.
However, im willing to drop by in jelly aow and for once not use a sniper all game, im sure you'll win every game against me since i can't lead a team, and you can.
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