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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sat, 19 June 2010 11:06 |
Awesome! Ok, when you've built the computer, and installed Windows and made sure everything works, then you can change the multiplier.
I'm using my MSI BIOS as a guide, but yours should] be relatively similar.
All you need to do is start your computer up, tap 'Delete' or whatever key AsRock uses to enter the BIOS as it starts up, and it'll take you into the BIOS.
When you're in, look around in the different menus for something to do with overclocking. It might be 'Cell Menu,' 'OC Tweaker' or something to that extent.
In the menu, you'll likely find something like 'CPU Ratio' or 'CPU Multiplier.' There will be a number next to it that says x16, or it might say 'Auto.' What you do is highlight it, tap Enter, and go down the numbers until you come across x17.
Press Enter, and it should show your CPU frequency as 3400, or 3.4GHz.
Next, find an option that is called 'AMD Cool & Quiet' and disable it.
Save your BIOS settings as a profile if possible, and then save the settings, and exit. Your PC will reboot.
When you're back in Windows, you can use a program like CPU-Z to verify your CPU speed, which should be 3.4GHz. 
*Make sure you don't play around too much in the BIOS at first, or you could cause your new PC a lot of problems*
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Well got the parts but not enough power I barely could get it to boot but it can OC itsslef by 4 or eveen 10 20 or 30 % its cool
but will this
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N82E16817121066
work for the mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157196
reason why i am asking is i dont knwo much about EPS
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431108 is a reply to message #431097] |
Sun, 20 June 2010 17:14 |
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Well I saw them both before, I like the one I posted since its good price and led blue lights match my case and you can disconnect the wires you dont use, alos since it has i think 4 12v rails. which idk really what they are but people say they are good and more are better? can anyone clarify this? and etc,
currently i have a consair 450 watt psu, my case has a total of 8 case fans
1 harddrives
led lights
heatsink with 2 fans
vid card with fan
etc
and had to turn all of it off turn all fans on low, and unplug harddrive, dvd burner all fans and etc just to get it to turn on so in BIOS it recognize all the memory sticks and cpu so im sure its working, but I need a higher psu
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431110 is a reply to message #430402] |
Sun, 20 June 2010 18:13 |
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People have different opinions on the 'rail' thing. The reason I chose the Corsair is because their supplies are known for being rock solid.
In addition, the 750 Watt unit has a 5 year warranty, and the modular 620 Watt one has a 7 year warranty. The Kingwin is 3 years, so that already indicates to me that Corsair believes in their product.
However, for most people, and probably you too, the Kingwin will likely be perfectly fine. But the Corsair is cheaper than the Kingwin after a rebate anyways, and since you have an Antec 1200, wrapping up the extra cables and hiding them in a low hard drive bay shouldn't be too hard.
But, it's your choice.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431420 is a reply to message #430402] |
Thu, 24 June 2010 14:29 |
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Got it all set up now, got psu, except its messing up and idk whats going on
some of the time loads up but screen wont, other wise, freezes during boot, or screen turns on when its on and etc
what shell i do..
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Thu, 24 June 2010 16:22 |
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Ok, make sure everything is wired correctly, and your motherboard is not making contact directly with your case, causing shorts. When you screw your board onto the case, there needs to be a small space between the case and board.
Maybe take a stick of RAM out, and see if anything changes. If it still has problems, replace that stick with the other, and try again.
I'll poke around for a couple threads to help you out. Lots of people have problems getting things off the ground the first time, so you're not alone with your problems.
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Thu, 24 June 2010 16:28 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 18:22 |
Ok, make sure everything is wired correctly, and your motherboard is not making contact directly with your case, causing shorts. When you screw your board onto the case, there needs to be a small space between the case and board.
Maybe take a stick of RAM out, and see if anything changes. If it still has problems, replace that stick with the other, and try again.
I'll poke around for a couple threads to help you out. Lots of people have problems getting things off the ground the first time, so you're not alone with your problems.
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Here's the thread I was looking for. It's very good, and it uses an AM3 board too, so it should look familiar to your AsRock one.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-boot-video-pro blems
Go through it step by step and double check. Good luck!
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431434 is a reply to message #431433] |
Thu, 24 June 2010 16:52 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 16:28 |
| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 18:22 |
Ok, make sure everything is wired correctly, and your motherboard is not making contact directly with your case, causing shorts. When you screw your board onto the case, there needs to be a small space between the case and board.
Maybe take a stick of RAM out, and see if anything changes. If it still has problems, replace that stick with the other, and try again.
I'll poke around for a couple threads to help you out. Lots of people have problems getting things off the ground the first time, so you're not alone with your problems.
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Here's the thread I was looking for. It's very good, and it uses an AM3 board too, so it should look familiar to your AsRock one.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-perform-steps-posting-boot-video-pro blems
Go through it step by step and double check. Good luck!
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no luck
whathappening so far is
and hese 3 things happen randomly and more then once, no order
blank screen keyboard dont light up
blank screen, keyboards light up
turned on without any problems
freezes on random times
so now i left for a few hours come hom
it turns on lights up but all blank screen and no keybaord lights. and nothing i do changes it =[ =[ =[
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431435 is a reply to message #430402] |
Thu, 24 June 2010 17:00 |
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Ok, your board has a reset, and on/off button built into it, so here's what you should do.
Remove the motherboard from your case, detaching any cables that hook to your case. Inspect the board for any possible damages.
Have the board sit on the anti-static bag it came on. Make sure all the power connections are correct, have a stick of RAM in the slot closest to your CPU socket, and then try and boot it up.
It's easier to diagnose problems if it's out of the case.
When it's booting up, are you able to get into the BIOS?
Also, do any numbers or letters appear on the readout?
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 17:00 |
Ok, your board has a reset, and on/off button built into it, so here's what you should do.
Remove the motherboard from your case, detaching any cables that hook to your case. Inspect the board for any possible damages.
Have the board sit on the anti-static bag it came on. Make sure all the power connections are correct, have a stick of RAM in the slot closest to your CPU socket, and then try and boot it up.
It's easier to diagnose problems if it's out of the case.
When it's booting up, are you able to get into the BIOS?
Also, do any numbers or letters appear on the readout?
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when it does boot i am easily able to get into bios to see cpu and both mem sticks are being read and i guess working functionally
could to much terminal compound cause problems?
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| (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 20:08 |
when it does boot i am easily able to get into bios to see cpu and both mem sticks are being read and i guess working functionally
could to much terminal compound cause problems?
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I'm assuming you mean thermal compound? Well, yes, but only if the compound has somehow gotten into the CPU socket, or if it's on the motherboard itself. I don't think that's your issue.
Normally problems like this can be due to the power supply. Sometimes, even good ones can be duds. So, what you ought to do is find another working PC, replace it's PSU with your Corsair, hook everything up, and see if it runs properly.
If everything works OK, then maybe try this:
Hook your Corsair back up to your AsRock, and then disconnect the hard drives. Start your PC up without the HD's, and see if you can get into the BIOS several times in a row, without problems.
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Thu, 24 June 2010 23:31 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 18:39 |
| (SSnipe) -BLU3Y3Z- wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 20:08 |
when it does boot i am easily able to get into bios to see cpu and both mem sticks are being read and i guess working functionally
could to much terminal compound cause problems?
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I'm assuming you mean thermal compound? Well, yes, but only if the compound has somehow gotten into the CPU socket, or if it's on the motherboard itself. I don't think that's your issue.
Normally problems like this can be due to the power supply. Sometimes, even good ones can be duds. So, what you ought to do is find another working PC, replace it's PSU with your Corsair, hook everything up, and see if it runs properly.
If everything works OK, then maybe try this:
Hook your Corsair back up to your AsRock, and then disconnect the hard drives. Start your PC up without the HD's, and see if you can get into the BIOS several times in a row, without problems.
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I got it! i took apart the entire thing, wiped uped the thermal compound and put less in a dot in middle instead of wiping it with my finger which i read is bad
also tighten the heat sink way way more since i saw scratches where the heatsink im guessing hit my case (metal to metal)
the screws that hold down the mobo i put this orange plastic pieces between (CAME WIT CASE)
and make sured no wires were hit anything
alll and all now it works so smooth..next i wanna try to overclock it to 3.4 ghz idk 100% how, i increased the multiplier by 10 and didn't reach it on there OC tool then pc crashed, had to go into bios to put back to default lol
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431457 is a reply to message #430402] |
Thu, 24 June 2010 23:53 |
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Awesome news!
Ok, increasing the multiplier by 10, which is 16 to 26 is a bad idea lol. Word to the wise, never do anything drastic like that as you can risk messing up your computer. Always take it slow.
To OC to 3.4GHz, all you'll need to do is set your multiplier to 17 in the BIOS. Also, disable Cool n' Quiet.
After that, save everything, exit the BIOS, and stress test your CPU with a program like Prime 95.
I wouldn't use AsRock's software to fiddle with that stuff anyways. AMD Overdrive, which you can download from AMD's site is a great tool that lets you monitor temperatures, and customize your system.
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Thu, 24 June 2010 23:53 |
Awesome news!
Ok, increasing the multiplier by 10, which is 16 to 26 is a bad idea lol. Word to the wise, never do anything drastic like that as you can risk messing up your computer. Always take it slow.
To OC to 3.4GHz, all you'll need to do is set your multiplier to 17 in the BIOS. Also, disable Cool n' Quiet.
After that, save everything, exit the BIOS, and stress test your CPU with a program like Prime 95.
I wouldn't use AsRock's software to fiddle with that stuff anyways. AMD Overdrive, which you can download from AMD's site is a great tool that lets you monitor temperatures, and customize your system.
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well mobo came with a OC tool which even shows the ghz cu etc but i put multiplier up and didnt see ghz go up =S 10 was ok 15 was ok then went to 20..and froze bios has lots and ots of options even settings to OC it blank % i choose, when i can ill take pics of the settings and post them on here
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431482 is a reply to message #430402] |
Fri, 25 June 2010 11:05 |
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Im trying to learn more about over clocking so far im having some trouble
i do know there is a elasionship between FBS or amds HT x multiplier
but thats where i am stuck at, some of these things have more then one name
time to bust out cpu-z
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| Re: Motherboards......Again [message #431557 is a reply to message #431522] |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Fri, 25 June 2010 16:56 |
Yeah, often motherboard makers will give different names for things like the multiplier or FSB.
I wouldn't worry about the FSB or anything like Hypertransport for now. Instead, check your AsRock manual to see what BIOS setting is the multiplier. In the BIOS, it should look like x16, or 16x. Just change it to x17, or 17x, and you'll have a 3.4GHz CPU. No need to fiddle with the FSB or anything.
I'd still recommend using AMD Overdrive:
http://game.amd.com/us-en/drivers_overdrive.aspx
It's way better featured than AsRock's software, and it'll help you learn anything to do with OC'ing.
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The mobo came with AMD overdirve, amd OC tool, and lots more
heres what I sued to OC it, Im at 3.5 ghz now, i raised multiplier to 16 and cpu freq to 220, from 215
question if I dont overclock it right could it actually make the pc slower? or use more cpU?
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I've only touched my multiplier, and that's it, so what you're doing is more advanced than anything I have. 
