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When in your opinion does it become abuse?
This came across my mind earlier today when my grandmother was yelling at my four year old cousin for throwing a fit... during this she spanks him and says "Now you have a reason to cry, now stop crying or ill do it again" at this moment i commented that that was abuse if she does it again and then she flipped out on me and starts chewing me out... then my grandfather joins against her and you can imagine how this continues....
So, when does punishment become abuse?
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| Re: Punishing a Child [message #424543 is a reply to message #424513] |
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| snpr1101 wrote on Sat, 03 April 2010 01:55 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 02 April 2010 21:39 |
When someone isn't really doing anything wrong and you're punishing them just cuz you're pissed off, then that's when it's abuse.
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So if you smack a kid over the head with baseball bat because he did something wrong, thats not abuse.
But if you happen to feel like some batting practice but ran out of balls; and use the childs head as one, it is?
Ah, so this must mean abuse lies within the reason for hitting the child, not the excessive force used to discipline them.
I see, i see.
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obviously there's such a thing as excess force, but I figured people were smart enough to know that hitting someone with a baseball bat is going overboard.
shit like spanking, grounding, taking away certain things (nothing that would make them unable to live, obviously) and etc are ways to punish a child. baseball bat to the head is retarded, but I guess common sense isn't people's strongpoints.
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| Re: Punishing a Child [message #424546 is a reply to message #424502] |
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| Zeratul wrote on Sat, 03 April 2010 03:57 |
When in your opinion does it become abuse?
This came across my mind earlier today when my grandmother was yelling at my four year old cousin for throwing a fit... during this she spanks him and says "Now you have a reason to cry, now stop crying or ill do it again" at this moment i commented that that was abuse if she does it again and then she flipped out on me and starts chewing me out... then my grandfather joins against her and you can imagine how this continues....
So, when does punishment become abuse?
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I thought punishment became an abuse where the grandmother does the same punishment til he stops crying.
Obviously its natural to throw in a fit, but if i did that to my cousin i send in to the Time out room....  Im against hitting children or adults in anyway.
I thought the british law said If you harm your children you get done for it.
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With only 14 people living in Canada, the retarded one was bound to show up around here sooner or later.
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| Re: Punishing a Child [message #424560 is a reply to message #424551] |
Sat, 03 April 2010 14:57 |
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| HaTe wrote on Sat, 03 April 2010 12:38 |
I believe in discipline when needed, but it all depends on the child. If the child reacts and listens when you spank them, and they deserve it....i don't see why not. If a child is doing something stupid like endangering his life, and not learning not to do it, they deserved to be disciplined. I wouldn't just tell my child "no" if he went and played in the road after i told him not to. It's deserving in many cases, but also not in many others. Hitting a child for little things really makes the child start to not care about getting hit again, it's the fear of getting hit that they should learn from, not the hitting itself.
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| Re: Punishing a Child [message #424577 is a reply to message #424543] |
Sat, 03 April 2010 17:32 |
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| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Sat, 03 April 2010 10:42 |
| snpr1101 wrote on Sat, 03 April 2010 01:55 |
| GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Fri, 02 April 2010 21:39 |
When someone isn't really doing anything wrong and you're punishing them just cuz you're pissed off, then that's when it's abuse.
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So if you smack a kid over the head with baseball bat because he did something wrong, thats not abuse.
But if you happen to feel like some batting practice but ran out of balls; and use the childs head as one, it is?
Ah, so this must mean abuse lies within the reason for hitting the child, not the excessive force used to discipline them.
I see, i see.
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obviously there's such a thing as excess force, but I figured people were smart enough to know that hitting someone with a baseball bat is going overboard.
shit like spanking, grounding, taking away certain things (nothing that would make them unable to live, obviously) and etc are ways to punish a child. baseball bat to the head is retarded, but I guess common sense isn't people's strongpoints.
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I take the internet seriously, please forgive my lack of common sense and intelligence.
on a more serious note, I generally agree with everyone. I remember stories told to me by my grandparents and parents about how they used to get the cane (hit with a big stick) at school; and on a whole, the older generations seem to be more polite then we are.
But to assume that heavier discipline alone was the only factor contributing to making someone more polite / disciplined would be silly. Obviously things have changed since then.
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