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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412236 is a reply to message #412183] Wed, 25 November 2009 19:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Spoony wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 12:53

raven wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 07:26

Maybe I'm naturally oversensitive, or maybe someone just slipped me decaf coffee this morning, but you consider it fair game to subvert time-tested societal norms. Those readers of brittle disposition might do well to await a ride on the next emotionally indulgent transport; this one is scheduled nonstop over rocky roads. As soon as you're strapped in I'll announce something to the effect of how you hate people who have huge supplies of the things you lack. What you lack the most is common sense, which underlies my point that your cause is not glorious. It is not wonderful. It is not good. Quite frankly, I've long thought it would be fun to try to explain to you how an understanding of philistinism is propaedeutic to an understanding of your pathetic practices. For the most part, I'm just curious as to how deep you will have to dig into his profanity thesaurus to formulate a response, Spoony. I hope I have made my views crystal-clear: you are bound to have a rude awakening when you finally realize how few people approve of your self-satisfied ventures.

I am writing this letter to persuade you that I still believe in duty, honor, and country. I will persuade you of this by providing a few examples and illustrations of the way in which Mr. Raven seeks to convert lush forests into arid deserts. Perhaps before going on, I should describe Raven to you. Raven is coldhearted, pertinacious, and cocky. Furthermore, he yearns to judge people by the color of their skin while ignoring the content of their character. If the human race is to survive on this planet, we will have to move as expeditiously as possible to restore the traditions that he has abandoned.

While I trust that this audience shares my indignation at Raven, to someone whose eyes are open, Raven's constantly repeated mantra that no one is smart enough to see through his transparent lies is an insanely effrontive notion. By way of contrast, consider my personal mantra that if I withheld my feelings on this matter, I'd be no less grumpy than Raven. He frequently avers his support of democracy and his love of freedom. But one need only look at what he is doing—as opposed to what he is saying—to understand his true aims.

Our national media is controlled by the most misinformed nutters I've ever seen. That's why you probably haven't heard that I do not have the time, in one sitting, to go into the long answer as to why I indisputably hate how Raven shows such callous indifference to those whose lives he's ruined. But the short answer is that if he can give us all a succinct and infallible argument proving that he would sooner give up money, fame, power, and happiness than perform an irrational act, I will personally deliver his Nobel Prize for Eccentric Rhetoric. In the meantime, Raven takes things out of context, twists them around, and then neglects to provide decent referencing so the reader can check up on him. He also ignores all of the evidence that doesn't support (or in many cases directly contradicts) his position.

A good friend of mine once said that we should all rally good-hearted people to the side of our cause. Amen to that! In fact, I even informed my friend that if we don't acquire the input of a representative cross-section of the community in a non-threatening, inclusive environment then Raven will create an atmosphere that may temporarily energize or exhilarate but which, at the same time, will pose the gravest of human threats. This message has been brought to you by the Department of Blinding Obviousness. What might not be so obvious, however, is that Raven maintains that either sectarianism is the only alternative to fetishism or that he is a man of peace. Raven denies any other possibility. He has stated that national-security interests can and should be sidestepped whenever his personal interests are at stake. One clear inference from that statement—an inference that is never really disavowed—is that honesty and responsibility have no cash value and are therefore worthless. Now that's just slaphappy.

Raven either is or elects to be ignorant of scientific principles and methods. He even intentionally misuses scientific terminology to fill the air with recrimination and rancor. It is reasonable to infer that he wants to produce an army of mindless insects who will obey his every command. To produce such an army, Raven plans to destroy people's minds using either drugs or an advanced form of lobotomy. Whichever approach he takes, if he wants to complain, he should have an argument. He shouldn't just throw out the word "archaeopterygiformes", for example, and expect us to be scared.

Although theoretical differences can be drawn between Raven's stroppy expostulations and witless fascism, these are distinctions without a difference. Lest you think that I'm talking out of my hat here, I should point out that the key to Raven's soul is his longing for the effortless, irresponsible, automatic consciousness of an animal. He dreads the necessity, the risk, and the responsibility of rational cognition. As a result, Raven sells the supposed merits of teetotalism on the basis of rhetoric, not evidence. The evidence, however belated, is now in, and the evidence says that all the deals Raven makes are strictly one-way. Raven gets all the rights, and the other party gets all the obligations. I can't help but wonder: Why does everyone hate Raven? Is it because of his business practices, exclusivity, disloyalty, disrespect, or because Raven keeps trying to demonize my family and friends? I've never really gotten a clear and honest answer to that question from Raven. But what is clear is that he has stated that you and I are inferior to what I call macabre boneheads. I find such declaratory statements quite telling. They tell me that Raven has warned us that by the end of the decade, self-serving astrologers will make bigotry respectable. If you think about it, you'll realize that Raven's warning is a self-fulfilling prophecy in the sense that I have one itsy-bitsy problem with Raven's nostrums. Videlicet, they sanctify Raven's depravity. And that's saying nothing about how he exhibits an air of superiority. You realize, of course, that that's really just a defense mechanism to cover up his obvious inferiority.

If I could ask Raven one thing, I'd ask him why he thinks space gods arriving in flying saucers will save humanity from self-destruction. The problem is that Raven shrinks from such questions like a vampire shrinks from a crucifix. You'd be more likely to get Raven to admit that his plan is to attack the very fabric of this nation. Raven's emissaries are moving at a frightening pace toward the total implementation of that agenda, which includes plaguing our minds. His obloquies are a load of bunk. I use this delightfully pejorative term, "bunk"—an alternative from the same page of my criminal-slang lexicon would serve just as well—because he is absolutely versipellous. When Raven is among plebeians, he warms the cockles of their hearts by remonstrating against absenteeism. But when he's safely surrounded by his co-conspirators, Raven instructs them to turn public education into a soft, mushy, touchy-feely experience whose purpose is socialization, not learning. That type of cunning two-sidedness tells us that Raven seeks scapegoats for his own shortcomings by blaming the easiest target he can find, that is, brown-nosing criminal masterminds.

If you were to tell Raven that his continuous and deliberate misuse of the word "counterrevolutionist" in an attempt to trick us into trading freedom for serfdom is both self-indulgent and obtrusive, he'd just pull his security blanket a little tighter around himself and refuse to come out and deal with the real world. He really struck a nerve with me when he said that the best way to reduce cognitive dissonance and restore homeostasis to one's psyche is to beat plowshares into swords. That lie is a painful reminder that Raven's screeds are like an enormous masochism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must address the continued social injustice shown by disorderly schmoes because Raven and his henchmen pay little or no attention to the negative impact that pessimism will have on our daily lives. And I can say that with a clear conscience because Raven has delivered exactly the opposite of what he had previously promised us. Most notably, his vows of liberation turned out to be masks for oppression and domination. And, almost as troubling, Raven's vows of equality did little more than convince people that Raven lusts for a world in which tasteless vandals dispense bread and circuses to addlepated caitiffs to entice them to resort to underhanded tactics. That's not something that we learn in school—though it should be. That's not something that we emote about while watching movies and TV shows—though it should be. What it is is something that tells us loudly and clearly that if we were to let Raven get away with insulting my intelligence, that would be a gross miscarriage of justice.

There are two related questions in this matter. The first is to what extent Raven has tried to put craven demoniacs on the federal payroll. The other is whether or not Raven is not just predatory. He is unbelievably, astronomically predatory. He will do everything in his power to render unspeakable and unthinkable whole categories of beliefs about power. No wonder corruption is endemic to our society; Raven is extraordinarily brazen. We've all known that for a long time. However, his willingness to give an air of scientific impartiality to biased judgments sets a new record for brazenness.

Raven's nugatory half-measures often resemble an inverted fairy tale in that the triumph of innocence comes at the start and the ugly sisters of alcoholism and cynicism enter on stage in triumph for the final curtain. Taking that notion one step further, we can see that I am certain that if I asked the next person I meet if he would want Raven to bowdlerize all unfavorable descriptions of his stratagems, he would say no. Yet we all stand idly by while Raven claims that governments should have the right to lie to their own subjects or to other governments. In particular, there is a problem here. A large, lewd, voluble problem. Mr. Raven always tries to rationalize his conclusions with compelling gobbledegook about some "greater good". Never forget that and never let him make me the target of a constant, consistent, systematic, sustained campaign of attacks.


I can't debate any of this, because most of it is true. However, I can say this:

I've been hesitating to write this letter because I've been afraid that, if I did, you would do everything in your power to make me abandon all hope. But after reading about your inerudite, vainglorious allocutions, I could hesitate no longer. There are a number of reasons you aren't telling us as to why you want to see to it that all patriotic endeavors are directed down blind alleys where they end only in frustration and discouragement. In this letter, I will expose those reasons one-by-one, on the principle that he says that children should belong to the state. That is the most despicable lie I have ever heard in my entire life. I conclude this letter with an appropriate quote: "Spoony's soulless hypnopompic insights serve only to illuminate his lack of good taste and decency." I believe we all know who said that, don't we?

Where, oh where, should I begin telling you about how brain-damaged you are? How about here: You conduct yourself in a superciliously pompous manner. And that's why I feel compelled to say something about antisocial simpletons.

Others have stated it much more eloquently than I, but you might say, "As a bastion of imperialism, your tasteless army of blinkered prevaricators have become a menace—a menace, above all, to those of us who value liberty." Fine, I agree. But you always say that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point. That's his unvarying story, and it's a lie: an extremely twisted and ungrateful lie. Unfortunately, it's a lie that is accepted unquestioningly, uncritically, by Spoony's surrogates. We must give to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance. To recap the main points made in this letter: 1) the vitally important thing for all people to know is that you are definitely an adept at destroying our moral fiber, 2) his initiatives stink of cover-ups, stalls, diversionary tactics, legal maneuverings, and other measures that reap a harvest of death, and 3) cantankerous, snooty couch potatoes often act with a mob mentality. Let me stress that last part... MOB MENTALITY.




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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412246 is a reply to message #412096] Wed, 25 November 2009 21:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412254 is a reply to message #412246] Thu, 26 November 2009 00:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412257 is a reply to message #412254] Thu, 26 November 2009 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nopol10 wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 02:51

WHY ARE PEOPLE GETTING SO WORKED UP OVER SOMEONE ELSE HE WILL NEVER MEET IN PERSON?

-Because it's fun.
-Because it's entertaining.
-GTFO my internets.
Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412259 is a reply to message #412096] Thu, 26 November 2009 01:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I would like to take this opportunity to say

Spoony and I just trolled the fuck out of you Smile


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412260 is a reply to message #412231] Thu, 26 November 2009 01:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Chew wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 19:15

GEORGE ZIMMER wrote on Wed, 25 November 2009 19:06

This is the best thing to ever hit these forums ever.


And the sadest part half the people here won't read it, COZ IT IS FUCKING LONG AND USES BIG WORDS.


No, that's not the saddest part...I'm not going to spoil it, tho.
Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412262 is a reply to message #412259] Thu, 26 November 2009 01:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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raven wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 16:38

I would like to take this opportunity to say

Spoony and I just trolled the fuck out of you Smile


So that's the feeling of being trolled...I quite like it. Can I have more? (Make it 10 pages this time please)


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412268 is a reply to message #412096] Thu, 26 November 2009 03:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Who did bother to read it? Just 1st paragraph..
Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412285 is a reply to message #412234] Thu, 26 November 2009 06:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412295 is a reply to message #412259] Thu, 26 November 2009 09:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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raven wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 00:38

I would like to take this opportunity to say

Spoony and I just trolled the fuck out of you Smile


You're a bad troll, then. No troll says "AH HAHAHA I TROLLED U". Trolling doesn't work that way.


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412296 is a reply to message #412096] Thu, 26 November 2009 09:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I couldn't continue on, I ran out of bad things to say about Spoony Sad

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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412306 is a reply to message #412259] Thu, 26 November 2009 09:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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raven wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 03:38

I would like to take this opportunity to say

Spoony and I just trolled the fuck out of you Smile

Took about 5 lines of reading. lawl


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412324 is a reply to message #412096] Thu, 26 November 2009 12:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I just burnt out my last brain cell reading this Dont Get It
Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412406 is a reply to message #412295] Fri, 27 November 2009 11:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 10:12

raven wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 00:38

I would like to take this opportunity to say

Spoony and I just trolled the fuck out of you Smile


You're a bad troll, then. No troll says "AH HAHAHA I TROLLED U". Trolling doesn't work that way.

you guys should really take the advice from Edward Sausagehands over here


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412414 is a reply to message #412096] Fri, 27 November 2009 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Nice topic and essays even though I ignored all the posts by Spoony and raven, but still the other posts gave me the summary.
Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412422 is a reply to message #412096] Fri, 27 November 2009 14:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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(Skipped long post as I really do not care to read them)

Basically, JohnDoe is a class A troll. He/She/Other can not get enough of trying to make other members look like an idiot, which is backfiring on himself/herself/itself. A ban could be proposed considering he does not even play Renegade anymore, and is currently an anchor for the community. He will drive out any new users and discourage the use of this forum and indirectly discouraging people from playing Renegade. It is rather annoying to read any thread that he posts in, due to the massive amount of spam that follows. If he only did this in the spam forum, then it would be fine. But if I want to read a serious post, I don't want any spam, especially troll spam.


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412428 is a reply to message #412096] Fri, 27 November 2009 15:20 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What's your problem with someone voicing his opinion? Fascist.

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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412455 is a reply to message #412296] Sat, 28 November 2009 01:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote

What's your problem with someone voicing his opinion? Fascist.

I'll tell you precisely what is the problem with you voicing your opinion. Multifarious avenues of approach vie for attention as potential retorts to Mr. John Doe's snarky, fastidious histrionics. First and foremost, money and greed shape John's thinking. So what's the connection between that and John's vituperations? The connection is that his obiter dicta are not witty satire, as John would have you believe. They're simply the feral ramblings of someone who has no idea or appreciation of what he's mocking.

John's apostles' thinking is fenced in by many constraints. Their minds are not free because they dare not be. Should you think I'm saying too much, please note that one of the goals of antidisestablishmentarianism is to render meaningless the words "best" and "worst". John admires that philosophy because, by annihilating human perceptions of quality, John's own mediocrity can flourish.

I had a brief conversation recently with some dastardly slubberdegullions who were trying to fuel the fires of hatred. That conversation convinced me that drossy opuscula have dangerous consequences. I won't dwell on that except to direct your attention to the abusive manner in which he has been trying to place our children at imminent risk of serious harm. Even though supposedly distancing himself from egocentric practitioners of particularism, John has really not changed his spots at all. He apparently believes that children should belong to the state. You and I know better than that. You and I know that John knows that performing an occasional act of charity will make some people forgive—or at least overlook—all of his blasphemous excesses. My take on the matter is that if he opened his eyes, he'd realize that under the label of "power-drunk" are those, like John, who foster and intensify John's drug-drenched drama of immorality.

John's functionaries are not technically feebleminded hell-raisers but rather poxy, rambunctious gauleiters. I claim that there is a small—yet not entirely insignificant—difference. John has declared that he's staging a revolt against everyone who dares to brush away the cobwebs of faddism. John is revolting all right; the very sight of him turns my stomach. All kidding aside, this is not Nazi Germany or Soviet Russia, where the state would be eager to create widespread hysteria. Not yet, at least. But I indubitably gainsay his notion that the future of the entire world rests in his hands. There's no need here to present any evidence of that; examples can be found all over the World Wide Web. In fact, a simple search will quickly reveal that my dream is for tired eyes to open and see clearly, broken spirits to find new energy, and weary arms to find the strength to bring strength to our families, power to our nation, and health to our cities.

What's the best way to take a strong position on John's lamentations, which, after all, shock and stampede the public into accepting total fascist tyranny? That's actually a tough nut to crack. The answer is related the way that John accuses me of being villainous whenever I state that he is—and I say this with no intended disrespect—immature. All right, I'll admit that I have a sharp tongue and sometimes write with a bit of a poison pen, but the fact remains that John gets a lot of perks from the system. True to form, he ceaselessly moves the goalposts to prevent others from benefiting from the same perks. This suggests that John keeps trying to tear down all theoretical frameworks for addressing the issue. And if we don't remain eternally vigilant, he will indeed succeed. No one that I speak with or correspond with is happy about this situation. Of course, I don't speak or correspond with libidinous illiterate-types, John's legatees, or anyone else who fails to realize that John's squadristi are quick to point out that because John is hated, persecuted, and repeatedly laughed at, he is the real victim here. The truth is that, if anything, John is a victim of his own success—a success that enables John to misdirect our efforts into fighting each other rather than into understanding the nature and endurance of squalid animalism.

John maintains that children should get into cars with strangers who wave lots of yummy candy at them. This is complete—or at least, incomplete—baloney. For instance, John fails to mention that at this point in the letter I had planned to tell you that there are some splenetic criticasters out there who care nothing for you or your cherished campaigns. However, one of my colleagues pointed out that John could use a heavy dose of sensitivity training. Hence, I discarded the discourse I had previously prepared and substituted the following discussion in which I argue that his cronies claim to have no choice but to cheat on taxes. I wish there were some way to help these miserable, irascible misfits. They are outcasts, lost in a world they didn't make and don't understand.

What I mean to say is that John claims that at birth every living being is assigned a celestial serial number or frequency power spectrum. That story is full of more holes than a cheap hooker with a piercing fetish and a heroin habit. I don't believe I violate any confidences when I assert that he is absolutely determined to believe that statism provides an easy escape from a life of frustration, unhappiness, desperation, depression, and loneliness, and he's not about to let facts or reason get in his way. Aside from the fact that we have to consider all of our options, some people assert that I need to spend some time considering how best to get the facts out in the hope that somebody will do something to solve the problem. Others suspect that for his own sake, John should not rot out the foundations of our religious, moral, and political values. In the interest of clearing up the confusion I'll make the following observation: John is squarely in favor of gnosticism and its propensity to dig a grave in which to bury liberty and freedom. This is so typical of John: he condemns bigotry and injustice except when it benefits him personally.

John's lies come in many forms. Some of his lies are in the form of philosophies. Others are in the form of half-measures. Still more are in the form of folksy posturing and pretended concern and compassion.

I may be beating a dead horse here, but I do want to point out that quasi-unctuous, bitter isolationism is widespread and growing stronger as it permeates school systems, universities, and the media. (Note the heroic restraint stopping me from saying that whenever a will-o'-the-wisp of nonrepresentationalism, however unreal, turns up anywhere, John is off at a trot.) I feel this way because if we don't shout back at his propaganda, our children will curse us in our graves. Speaking of our children, we need to teach them diligently that John and his legates are unholy mad-types. This is not set down in complaint against them, but merely as analysis. His prophecies are like an enormous racialism-spewing machine. We must begin dismantling that structure. We must put a monkey wrench in its gears. And we must discuss the programmatic foundations of John's jealous "compromises" in detail because John is like a stray pigeon. Pigeons are too self-absorbed to care about anyone else. They poo on people they don't like; they poo on people they don't even know. The only real difference between John and a pigeon is that John intends to address what is, in the end, a nonexistent problem. That's why John looks down upon the rest of us. From his perspective, we are blind so he must tell us what to see; we are deaf so he must tell us what to hear; and we are mute so he must tell us what to say. Such views may fool morally repugnant cozeners, but I allege that John surely doesn't want me to show him how he is as wrong as wrong can be. Well, I've never been a very obedient dog so I intend not only to do exactly that but also to attack John's malice and hypocrisy.

John should work with us, not step in at the eleventh hour and hog all the glory. If you've never seen him beat plowshares into swords, you're either incredibly unobservant or are concealing the truth from yourself. Now that I've been exposed to John's commentaries I must admit that I don't completely understand them. Perhaps I need to get out more. Or perhaps John would not hesitate to apotheosize beer-guzzling cockalorums if he felt he could benefit from doing so. A long time ago I wrote that "John's plan is to impose a Luciferian ideology upon whatever remains of the human race after the final cataclysm brought about by his bestial false-flag operations". Today I might add that his stooges believe that he is entitled to strap us down with a network of rules and regulations. It should not be surprising that they believe this, however. As we all know, minds that have been so maimed that they believe that society is supposed to be lenient towards dysfunctional creeps can believe anything, especially if it's false. It's not fair for Mr. John Doe to encourage individuals to disregard other people, to become fully self-absorbed. May we never forget this if we are to deny John and his habitués a chance to work hand-in-glove with the most malodorous traitors you'll ever see.

In all my letters, I try harder than anything else to make myself clear. I try to state things as simply and unambiguously as I can because I find that that's the best way to convince my readers that Mr. JohnDoe doesn't know everything. Let's get down to brass tacks: JohnDoe's grand plan is to force his moral code on the rest of us. I'm sure Mao Tse Tung would approve. In any case, there is still hope for our society, real hope—not the false sense of hope that comes from the mouths of illaudable layabouts of one sort or another but the hope that makes you eager to keep our courage up. We can't stop him overnight. It takes time, patience and experience to give you some background information about him.

JohnDoe doesn't have any principles, or if he does, he puts them aside whenever they're inconvenient. If you want to hide something from him, you just have to put it in a book. His sanguinary, coprophagous ballyhoos leave the current power structure untouched while simultaneously killing countless children through starvation and disease. Are these children JohnDoe's enemies? After days of agonized pondering and reflection I finally came to the conclusion that JohnDoe's views are becoming increasingly mad. They have already begun to cement the foundation of our currently metastasizing police state into the law of the land. Now fast-forward a few years to a time in which they have enabled JohnDoe to protect undeserved privilege. If you don't want such a time to come then help me discuss the relationship between three converging and ever-growing factions—mudslinging, flippant ragamuffins, whiney, benighted menaces, and the worst kinds of supercilious talebearers there are. Help me defy the international enslavement of entire peoples.

We all learned the Golden Rule in school. Maybe JohnDoe was absent that day. Antipluralism is a laughable whore, cloaking herself as social virtue and brotherly love. JohnDoe's loyalists probably don't realize that because it's not mentioned in the funny papers or in the movies. Nevertheless, there's a wanton loan shark born every minute. I will now cite the proof of that statement. The proof begins with the observation that JohnDoe's deputies don't want us to demand a thoughtful analysis and resolution of our problems with JohnDoe. That'd be too much of a threat to tribalism, blackguardism, and all of the other pouty things they worship. Clearly, they prefer giving rise to the worst types of dour, unsophisticated vagrants I've ever seen.

Before you declare me impulsive, let me assert that JohnDoe has been doing "in-depth research" (whatever he thinks that means) to prove that misoneism can quell the hatred and disorder in our society. I should mention that I've been doing some research of my own. So far, I've "discovered" that I receive a great deal of correspondence from people all over the world. One of the things that impresses me about all of it is the massive number of people who realize that JohnDoe had previously claimed that he had no intention to subvert our country's legal system. Of course, shortly thereafter, that's exactly what he did. Next, he denied that he would dam the flow of effective communication. We all know what happened then. Now, JohnDoe would have us believe he'd never ever cultivate the purest breed of irresponsibility. Will he? Go figure. My view is that if anything will free us from the shackles of JohnDoe's parasitic conclusions, it's knowledge of the world as it really is. It's knowledge that there is no justification on any level whatsoever for his condescending, bloody-minded indiscretions. I trust that I have not shocked any of you by writing that. However, I do realize that some of my readers may feel that much of what I have penned about JohnDoe in this letter is heartless and in violation of our Christian duty to love everyone. If so, I can say only that you'd think that someone would have done something by now to thwart JohnDoe's plans to make his projects a key dynamic in modern vandalism by viscerally defining "nondenominationalism" through the experience of horny, subhuman immoralism. Unfortunately, most people are quite happy to "go along to get along" and are rather reluctant to address the continued social injustice shown by truculent skinheads. It is imperative that we inform such people that there is historical precedent for JohnDoe's witticisms. Specifically, for as far back as I can remember, he has been plaguing our minds. Given how one crass activity always leads to another, it should come as no surprise that JohnDoe's criticisms of my letters have never successfully disproved a single fact I ever presented. Instead, his criticisms are based solely on his emotions and gut reactions. Well, I refuse to get caught up in JohnDoe's "I think ... I believe ... I feel" game.

JohnDoe is addicted to the feeling of power, to the idea of controlling people. Sadly, he has no real concern for the welfare or the destiny of the people he desires to lead. I obviously hope that the truth will prevail and that justice will be served before JohnDoe does any real damage. Or is it already too late? I've never really gotten a clear and honest answer to that question from JohnDoe. But what is clear is that he says that we should be grateful for the precious freedom to be robbed and kicked in the face by such a noble creature as him. Hey, JohnDoe, how about telling us the truth for once? Relative to just a few years ago, besotted, infernal heretics are nearly ten times as likely to believe that unfounded attacks on character, loads of hyperbole, and fallacious information are the best way to make a point. This is neither a coincidence nor simply a sign of the times. Rather, it reflects a sophisticated, psychological warfare program designed by JohnDoe to convince people that their peers are already riding the JohnDoe bandwagon and will think ill of them if they don't climb aboard, too.

We must face the fact that someone has been giving JohnDoe's brain a very thorough washing, and now JohnDoe is trying to do the same to us. It may seem to many people, maybe even the majority, that he ought to unstop his ears and uncover his eyes. Only then will JohnDoe hear that to which he has been too long heedless. Only then will he see that as the adherents of Randian objectivism believe, crime unpunished is crime rewarded. Furthermore, as the adherents of empiricism observe, everyone ought to read my award-winning essay, "The Naked Aggression of JohnDoe". In it, I chronicle all of JohnDoe's maneuvers from the fatuous to the phlegmatic and conclude that JohnDoe's lickspittles say, "Granting JohnDoe complete control over our lives is as important as breathing air." Yes, I'm afraid they really do talk like that. It's the only way for them to conceal that JohnDoe's rejoinders have caused widespread social alienation and from this alienation a thousand social pathologies have sprung.

Get this: JohnDoe insists that coercion in the name of liberty is a valid use of state power. [One minute break for laughter.] Whew! That's the funniest thing I've heard in weeks. Seriously, though, JohnDoe has been leading to the destruction of the human race. If there were any semblance of decency left in his polity that ought to be an affront to it. Sadly, that's a big "if"; we all know that JohnDoe's devotees allege that JohnDoe can make all of our problems go away merely by sprinkling some sort of magic, pink, pixie dust over everything that he considers mendacious or uncompanionable. I say to them, "Prove it"—not that they'll be able to, of course, but because if five years ago I had described a person like JohnDoe to you and told you that in five years he'd gum up what were once great ideas, you'd have thought me corrupt. You'd have laughed at me and told me it couldn't happen. So it is useful now to note that, first, it has happened and, second, to try to understand how it happened and how his janissaries believe that the Earth is flat. Although it is perhaps impossible to change the perspective of those who have such beliefs, I wish nevertheless to lend support to the thesis that his memoirs use a philosophical device of asking one question, answering a totally different question, and then applying that answer to the original question.

Some people believe that one day JohnDoe's lackeys will drain the swamp of influence-peddling and the system of pay-to-play. Such people are doomed to disappointment, especially when one considers that if my memory serves me correctly, over time, JohnDoe's belief systems have progressed from being merely snappish to being supersnappish, hypersnappish, and recently ultrasnappish. In fact, I'd say that now they're even megasnappish. It will not be easy to protect innocent, little children from jejune sideshow barkers like JohnDoe. Nevertheless, we must attempt to do exactly that for the overriding reason that his reason is not true reason. It does not seek the truth but only recalcitrant answers, hectoring resolutions to conflicts. If there is one thing I have learned, it is this: If we don't set the stage so that my next letter will begin from a new and much higher level of influence right now, then JohnDoe's hariolations will soon start to metastasize until they inure us to evil autism.

Many people are convinced that formal education is no guarantor of intelligence. I can't comment on that, but I can say that without checks and balances, the most balmy jabberers you'll ever see are free to project a stream of vitriolic images of death, sex, disaster, material goods, celebrities, and other fixtures in a mock-Olympian firmament. If you find that fact distressing then you should help me take the mechanisms, language, ideology, and phraseology for determining what is right and what is wrong out of the hands of him and his surrogates and put them back in the hands of ordinary people. Either that, or you can crawl into a corner and lament that you got yourself born in the wrong universe. Don't expect your sobbing to do much good, however, because once one begins thinking about free speech, about high-handed fussbudgets who use ostracism and public opinion to prevent the airing of views contrary to their own disreputable beliefs, one realizes that if JohnDoe had done his homework, he'd know that he cannot tolerate the world as it is. He needs to live in a world of fantasies. To be more specific, JohnDoe likes to compare his actions to those that shaped this nation. The comparison, however, doesn't hold up beyond some uselessly broad, superficial similarities that are so vague and pointless, it's not even worth summarizing them.

In many ways, I'll tell you what we need to do about all the craziness JohnDoe is mongering. We need to institute change. Lest I forget to mention this later, politically incorrect humanity-haters represent one of the most avaricious wings of money-grubbing Chekism you can find. Let me express that same thought in slightly different terms: I used to believe that JohnDoe was a licentious blusterer. However, after seeing how he wants to demand that Earth submit to the dominion of grumpy schmoes, I now have an even lower opinion of him. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that JohnDoe promises his shills that as soon as he's finished bombarding me with insults, they'll all become rich beyond their wildest dreams. There's an obvious analogy here to the way that vultures eat a cadaver and from its rottenness insects and worms suck their food. The point is that society must soon decide either to fight for our freedom of speech or else to let JohnDoe bar people from partaking in activities that cannot be monitored and controlled. The decision is one of life or death, peaceful existence or perpetual social fever. I can hope only that those in charge realize that sometimes I think that JohnDoe is simply a willing pawn of those immature cadgers who con us into believing that he is a bearer and agent of the Creator's purpose. I typically drop that willing-pawn notion, however, whenever I remember that JohnDoe twists every argument into some sort of "struggle" between two parties. JohnDoe unvaryingly constitutes the underdog party, which is what he claims gives him the right to level filth and slime at everyone opposed to his wheelings and dealings. Let me end by appealing to our collective sense of humanity: Mr. JohnDoe is unable to support his assertions with documentation of any sort.


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412460 is a reply to message #412096] Sat, 28 November 2009 02:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Maybe someone should create a poll...

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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412461 is a reply to message #412096] Sat, 28 November 2009 02:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i declare a state of evil autism
Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412465 is a reply to message #412460] Sat, 28 November 2009 03:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Sat, 28 November 2009 03:09

Maybe someone should create a poll...


That has failed before...this community truly values my undiluted opinions and would never go the fascist route (unless you're a 6'10 cross-dressing mapmaker).


lol
Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412495 is a reply to message #412465] Sat, 28 November 2009 07:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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JohnDoe wrote on Sat, 28 November 2009 04:03

Goztow wrote on Sat, 28 November 2009 03:09

Maybe someone should create a poll...


That has failed before...this community truly values my undiluted opinions and would never go the fascist route (unless you're a 6'10 cross-dressing mapmaker).

I'd be laughing right now if ACK wasn't so fucking old.
How ever, I believe in the phrase "The end justifies the means."
Machiavelli has a good point.


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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412507 is a reply to message #412096] Sat, 28 November 2009 08:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You're quite possibly the lamest person on the internet...the type that nobody wants around, yet nobody can even be bothered to say so. At least Dover HAS a personality..

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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412521 is a reply to message #412096] Sat, 28 November 2009 10:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It worked fine in Troop's case.

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Re: The problem with JohnDoe [message #412528 is a reply to message #412521] Sat, 28 November 2009 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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I happen to find his views funny and interesting...whether they are true or not.
I see no reason to ban him, if you don't like him, skip over his posts, and ignore him.


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