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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400425 is a reply to message #399493] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:19   |
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The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so...
It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating.
But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400427 is a reply to message #400424] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:28 |
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| DutchNeon wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:19 |
| Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:13 |
| Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:06 |
So, You're just spouting your mouth off without providing evidence other than a screenshot which doesn't prove it is him?
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Read the all the posts (everyone's) in the linked thread. Otherwise, I might aswell ignore your posts if you are going to say (quote) the same thing over and over.
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Double post, but you replied as I was replying to Baker's comment...
The comments in posted link is basically stating what you're stating here.
The screenshot is not conclusive evidence you say it is in your posts.
| Goztow wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 07:17 |
If you're oh so innocent, maybe u can tell us who this Dell dude is, then?
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Exactly what pawky said in that post and what I said above.
The posts you asked me to read don't say anything else other than what's already been stated in this thread.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400428 is a reply to message #400425] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:29 |
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| Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:19 |
The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so...
It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating.
But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue.
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Oh my god did you even read my post. In lan games the name of the computer is used as the playername, alongside this with the fact that there are several skins that match up with ones in ss's he posted before, and that no one in their right mind would go and give someone a skin, have them takes screenshots of it, then have them give the screenshots to you just to post them on renforums, it's pretty much queenhunter.
I also think he admitted to cheating sometime after the post.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400429 is a reply to message #400425] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:32 |
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| Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:19 |
The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so...
It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating.
But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue.
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Like I said, read the posts...
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| DutchNeon wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 02:49 |
| Goobers wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 01:20 |
| NZ wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 18:12 |
From Queen i have seen nothing not even as small as a lag kill from him in game and his KD has never pointed towards being a cheater,Justification in banning a player whom posts an SS while not in your server is not justified proof, And would how ever be disappointing to see this happen at this point.
This is not me sticking up for him it is my observation of him over the past 6 months while in game playing along side of him.
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| rebdog wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 16:56 |
ok i think this is complete bullshit, so what he used *cheat name removed*while taking some screenshots.
Like 75% of you havnt tried it on multilayer practice, just to see what it can do. 6 months or so ago i got my mate to join a server which i made with a password, so i could see what it does to learn from it. From learning what it does ive caught alot of people using it. I even tried using DH hacks on my own server to test if biatch was working. I dont see the big deal tbh. Do half you which are mods ban for evidence on other servers, no you dont. So go ban me too
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agreed, ive played with queen for 5months+ on several different servers, never seen or suspected anything suspicious and have had no complaints reported to me about queen by any ingame player, so what he appears to have *cheat name removed*on his computer tell me you dont, WHERES YOUR INGAME ONLINE PROOF, ill tell you were it is you dont fucking have any, good to see queens mistake has given you idiots something to talk about, but there's no way using *cheat name removed*on a private lan game is a bannable offense for online servers, do some real detective work find him cheating ingame of shut the fuck up
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Seriously,
If you are running *cheat name removed* in a LAN game to take screenshots (with no1 else in it), it means you are utterly retarded, OR you run it everytime when starting up Ren (habit), OR you used *cheat name removed* in a public game, then switched over to a LAN game without quiting Ren.
Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat.
This proof is enough proof to conclude him as a cheater.
@Nz,
Cheaters can also play smart while running cheating. The ppl who obviously use cheats will often get banned, but there are also ppl who safely use cheats, without getting banned.
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| Goztow wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 23:10 |
So his cheater "mate" Dell posed for all 4 skins  . Right  .
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| pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 16:26 |
| Goztow wrote on Tue, 14 April 2009 00:17 |
If you're oh so innocent, maybe u can tell us who this Dell dude is, then?
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Gozy, this "DELL" is most probably the computer name that loads up during LAN play IF you choose not to type in a custom nick while setting up the game.
My computer's name is "ULTRA". Whenever I want to play a singleplayer LAN game (to test skins) and click on Multiplayer LAN in the main menu, the next screen shows the field to enter in a custom nick. Unless you have changed it before, this field has the computer name by default and for me it is always ULTRA. It is always in caps.
That could be the case here.
EDIT: DutchNeon already mentioned this in the first page:
| DutchNeon wrote on Sun, 12 April 2009 13:19 |
Edit: I see your desktop name on the screenshot...
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Edit: Quoting Pawky without my Quote in his Quote...
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400430 is a reply to message #400428] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:33 |
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| bakerrrr wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:29 |
| Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 14:19 |
The name used in the said screenshots is "DELL" which means it could be anyone. Also note the player count is 1 which means it's a LAN game. "DELL" could be anyone as it's the name of a computer manufacturer and the default computer name (I think? haven't owned a dell machine in ages) so...
It's not solid evidence that it is in fact queenhunter cheating.
But I guess you guys are stubborn and won't see any other side to a story anyway. No use arguing with idiots who are one-sided in an issue.
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Oh my god did you even read my post. In lan games the name of the computer is used as the playername, alongside this with the fact that there are several skins that match up with ones in ss's he posted before, and that no one in their right mind would go and give someone a skin, have them takes screenshots of it, then have them give the screenshots to you just to post them on renforums, it's pretty much queenhunter.
I also think he admitted to cheating sometime after the post.
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If you read my post after that, I agreed and said pawkyfox was correct in that linked thread.
Also, if you read my post, you guys are just too stubborn and consumed with rene-politics to have any other opinion.
l2mod please.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400431 is a reply to message #399493] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:33 |
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Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat.
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You can find me in The KOSs2 (TK2) discord while I'm playing. Feel free to come and say hi! TK2 discord
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400433 is a reply to message #400431] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:37 |
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| Goztow wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:33 |
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Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat.
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Can't rebut that, but it still doesn't mean you can jump to conclusions.
Also, he could've used someone else's screenshot because he wanted a better detailed screenshot but didn't bother checking it?
I'm going to stop repeating myself now. Like I've said, you're stubborn.
Good day.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400434 is a reply to message #400433] |
Fri, 28 August 2009 11:41 |
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| Zack wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 20:37 |
| Goztow wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 11:33 |
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Now give me VALID reason why you need to run *cheat name removed* in a LAN game, WITHOUT any other players. WITHOUT any others players, it has NO use testing a cheat.
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Can't rebut that, but it still doesn't mean you can jump to conclusions.
Also, he could've used someone else's screenshot because he wanted a better detailed screenshot but didn't bother checking it?
I'm going to stop repeating myself now. Like I've said, you're stubborn.
Good day.
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Also, he could've used someone else's screenshot because he wanted a better detailed screenshot but didn't bother checking it?
Doing that for all his skin releases before the "cheat" screenshot? Doubt it.
Edit: Thought about this, and thus my Apology for linking "Dumb" with "St0rm" indirectly (see my "St0rm logic" post). I'm not here to make enemies, so I refrain from what I have said earlier in this topic about St0rm (staff).
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400670 is a reply to message #400649] |
Sat, 29 August 2009 13:56 |
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| DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 22:11 |
wow you people have nothing better to do with your time then talk about Queen. 
So you got a picture, that might be his might not. He might have used it online or not. You really don't know. Have you ever played with him in game ever and been suspicious of him cheating? Have any proof other than these forums love to flame people. Ohh goodie a new thread to go and flame someone.
I for one have played Renegade with Queen and I can tell you if he is using *cheat name removed*or any other kind of cheat, hes sucks as a cheater.
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Does a cheater need to be good then?
Cw.cc has/had been terrorized by velocity cheaters. Using a changed velocity really carefully; others will then most likely never notice it, but it gives you an advantage over other players; an unfair advantage.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400728 is a reply to message #399493] |
Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 |
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R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person. He also wishes to point out that the reasoning behind the Queen flaming isn't because people think he is cheating, but rather because he simply posted a screenshot showing a cheat in action.
Regardless of if he was the one using it or not, he is still the one who posted the screen shot.
It is a well known fact that this forum's community is nothing but a group of bored trolls and lurkers who find entertainment value in other people's misfortunes. Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat, it still doesn't change the fact that he is within the range of the "flaming entertainment value" the people in this forum live for.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400744 is a reply to message #400728] |
Sat, 29 August 2009 23:24 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 |
R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person.
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We have no reason to believe otherwise besides his word, and when has a cheater ever admitted to it, even when being caught red-handed?
| R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 |
Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat...
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I'd like to see him try.
I don't know how you can possibley defend him, especially after the way he's handled himself in this whole situation.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400745 is a reply to message #400744] |
Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 |
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| Dover wrote on Sun, 30 August 2009 01:24 |
| R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 |
R3 wishes to point out the fact that a screenshot posted by someone doesn't mean it was taken by that same person.
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We have no reason to believe otherwise besides his word, and when has a cheater ever admitted to it, even when being caught red-handed?
| R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 21:27 |
Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat...
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I'd like to see him try.
I don't know how you can possibley defend him, especially after the way he's handled himself in this whole situation.
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because I've actually played ren with him. most of you haven't even played one game with him. your going off a screen shot that you cant even prove is his. If you had ever played Renegade with him you would know beyond doubt the man doesn't cheat.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #400770 is a reply to message #400745] |
Sun, 30 August 2009 02:41 |
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| DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 |
because I've actually played ren with him. most of you haven't even played one game with him.
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I haven't played Renegade with a lot of famous cheaters. What's your point?
| DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 |
your going off a screen shot that you cant even prove is his.
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He tried awfully hard to cover up the screenshot in question. It's enough to assume it's his since he posted it, and he can't offer any proof it ISN'T his.
| DarkKnight wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 |
If you had ever played Renegade with him you would know beyond doubt the man doesn't cheat.
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Lol.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #401028 is a reply to message #399493] |
Mon, 31 August 2009 18:05 |
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A quote that somewhat told us he was infact cheating.
| queenhunter wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 08:43 |
Well, Most of u have called me an IDIOT- or a Fucking bitch.
I always used renguard until less than a month ago
Also I do not know cheat name removed.
Also I dont cheat in games, all my stats will prove that.
I try to find out how things work ,
As far as i am concerned, pepl I play with dont think I do
and thats good enuff for me because I dont cheat in games.
At least I can call them friends.
Also Ive have given many pepl file name of ref cement which alters alot more than bldgs.
I have reinstalled ren several times recently and dont have those skins in cuz I lost em all. Ask wiloAlso to ZACK, U screwed up
not me.and I did have scripts 3.4.4 in my system.
what happened I dunno.
But u pepl got to get a life.
U make me sick.
How many of u, including mods, and admins,
know how to catch a cheater unless you know the cheat? HMMM?
I have caugth a few myself.
those of u call me an idiot.or otherwise. u know where u can go.
Ive made many skins for pepl and who knows whos using em.
I send em email em post em and I get returns on those.
If any 1 uses em Ill post em if not i dont.
SO STFU!
BTW some of u know an awful lot bout cheats? HOW?
U seem to know all about how to get around it too HOW?
And why after so many skins and movies and such ( if I used it so much) has it not shown up before? HMM HOW?
U freeking Hypocrites.
R u Mods? ru Admins? do u have a server?
WHo the frak r u to call me a cheat when u dont know me never played with me?
wher are u mods BITCHING about real cheats and persons on here
using personal insults. GFU!
Im not going to explain to each of u. I got better things to do
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| IAmFenix wrote on Mon, 13 April 2009 13:44 |
He failed. We all know that, he's trying to bullshit his way out.
Any mod knows about *cheat name removed* and other hacks because the have to in order to SPOT THEM.
Anyone else, you can blame.
Hell, when I saw *cheat name removed* at the top left corner of you're screen, I thought it was an anti cheat.
But when Gozy pointed it out as a cheat, we all caught on and made accusations based on the evidence you've brought against yourself.
And also, if you were making movies, maybe you made sure you turn it off, and SLIPPED UP.
So don't try acting like we're the cheaters. Its you.
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I was a bit pissed at the time, still have shit going on IRL. Hardly play ren anymore.
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| Re: Queenhunter's skin release political part - split [message #401240 is a reply to message #400728] |
Tue, 01 September 2009 20:15 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 29 August 2009 23:27 |
It is a well known fact that this forum's community is nothing but a group of bored trolls and lurkers who find entertainment value in other people's misfortunes. Even if Queen was to prove himself, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that he didn't cheat, it still doesn't change the fact that he is within the range of the "flaming entertainment value" the people in this forum live for.
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Kinda barging in here, but i absolutely agree with this.
When renegade goes Wub, it never goes back
(or at least until I re-install renegade anyways)
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