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Probem with BRenBot [message #387868]

Mon, 25 May 2009 14:10

DrDanthrax99
Messages: 4
Registered: May 2009
Location: Michigan

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Ive got a problem.

Everytime i start brenbot, everything works out fine except for this:
There is no communication between BRenbot and my fds.
I actually think it may be limited, seeing as the bot reports players going in and out of game, but that is the brunt of it.

<abvolcom-serverbot> BRenBot 1.52 reporting for duty! Type !help for a list of commands.
* Trompeten (marc.grein@hidden-16AA851D.adsl.alicedsl.de) has joined #abvolcom-admin
* Trompeten (marc.grein@hidden-16AA851D.adsl.alicedsl.de) has left #abvolcom-admin
<abvolcom-serverbot> Warning: The FDS has not responded to the last two status requests, it may have gone offline.
<~DrDanthrax99> !die NOW
* abvolcom-serverbot (abvolcom-s@hidden-E247353F.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) Quit (Client exited)
* abvolcom-serverbot (abvolcom-s@hidden-E247353F.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) has joined #abvolcom-admin
<abvolcom-serverbot> BRenBot 1.52 reporting for duty! Type !help for a list of commands.
<~DrDanthrax99> !fds msg tijno smells
<abvolcom-serverbot> Warning: The FDS has not responded to the last two status requests, it may have gone offline.
* DrDanthrax99 sets mode: +o abvolcom-serverbot
<~DrDanthrax99> !pi
<@abvolcom-serverbot> There are no players ingame at this time.
<@abvolcom-serverbot> Player DrDanthrax99 joined the game
<~DrDanthrax99> !auth drd
<@abvolcom-serverbot> Connection broken to client. 1
<@abvolcom-serverbot> Player DrDanthrax99 left the game
<@abvolcom-serverbot> Warning: The FDS has not responded to the last two status requests, it may have gone offline.

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Re: Probem with BRenBot [message #387881 is a reply to message #387868]

Mon, 25 May 2009 15:52

danpaul88
Messages: 5795
Registered: June 2004
Location: England

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Reporting players going in/out of game etc comes from renlog. Your problem is incorrect remote admin settings, or using the same port numbers as another bot/fds running on the same machine as yours.

Read the readme file which explains how to setup the remote admin connection settings, it covers everything in there. If you are still having problems you should copy-paste the relevant sections of your config files (server.ini / brenbot.cfg) into a reply inside a spoiler tag, making sure to replace passwords and serials with *'s or similar before submitting the reply.

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Re: Probem with BRenBot [message #388353 is a reply to message #387868]

Thu, 28 May 2009 15:02

Pyr0man1c
Messages: 186
Registered: April 2009

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He got it to work

"Sapere Aude- Dare to be wise"

AmunRa

and its all this "drama" that will one day end renegade...

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v00d00

A question regarding RenGuard. Because it's a client/server application, what will stop the legions of people who cheat, and can crack apps, from reverse engineering it down to it's core protocol / encryption (which I'll assume it has), and duplicating it, so that they have their own client which responds to the server with all the correct info for an unpatched Renegade, but in fact is patched.

Personally, I think you should write a server-side only anti-cheat, which hooks the networking routines in Renegade. From there, using either the help of your staff who worked on creating Renegade, or from knowledge aquired while working with the network code in Renegade, create a system to monitor hit locations (did they REALLY hit, based on calculations by the anti-cheat (stopping BH)), how much damage are they claiming, vs how much damage their currently selected weapon really does, etc.

Then, add rate-of-fire checking, complete w/ lag tolerance (since lagged client will of course, upon delag, seem to fire faster, etc), and option to simply "edit" the incoming packets, to filter out the cheat (reduce damage, stop bullets, etc), or kick-ban the cheater (admins decision, based on anti cheat config).

Is it just me, or does that make more sense?

The flaw to Renegade of course, which is the core to the cheats, is that unlike most other games, Renegade lets the CLIENT decide hit locations, damage, RoF, etc. Vs others which say, "ok, the client fired their pistol along this trajectory. Did they hit something? How much damage did they do to that target if so. Report findings to clients".

My only concern, is that there will be alot more teams of people ripping apart the hard work of your small team, and undoing what you have done. Can you keep up writing fixes / completely rewriting the protocol to counter them once they have created their OWN complete anti-RenGuard client? If not, consider the server-side only method, and solve it once and for all, with the only version changes being to fix bugs, and not complete rewrites which will really piss admins off (if it takes this long for the initial, how long after the cheaters create their own client to counter it will your rewrite take to do?).

- v00d00

ELiT3FLyR

ill say this again to all the TT people actually working on the patch. all you have to do is fix the bugs in the game. This is your role. dont get involved in a pointfix debate that you can never win (spoony has never managed to win one and hes a decent player) nor bother suggesting solutions for the faults in pointfix. just fix the damn bugs and you will all be remmebered as renegade heroes.

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