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Re: almost 1 year [message #384725 is a reply to message #384462] Thu, 07 May 2009 02:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cmatt42 wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 18:51

We already have BIATCH holding us over, and it's doing very well. Empty fan map servers are doing worse because hardly anyone wants to download and install the maps manually, and several times for every map.


Uhuh and when is BIATCH going to stop rgGh and velocity? and all the other sneaky cheats? I don't give a f about the empty fanmaps servers, i care about empty RENEGADE because of cheaters.


cmatt42 wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 18:51


Wrong. Going back and just releasing the anticheat and bugfixes would take much longer than to simply just keep plowing through. This has been mentioned sufficiently enough; all of the systems are too tightly knit together to take apart.


I guess we have to wait years for the release like mac said, that's probably when 80% of the ren players moved on. nice tt patch




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Re: almost 1 year [message #384728 is a reply to message #384725] Thu, 07 May 2009 02:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Somehow, I do not see the relevance of the point about cheaters causing Renegade to be less popular than before. There is also a high possibility that cheaters will be able to bypass the new system, its just a matter of whether they want to.

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Re: almost 1 year [message #384734 is a reply to message #384585] Thu, 07 May 2009 02:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rrutk wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 11:24

BLuel4bel wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 11:13

Do you want me to make a poll, and see for yourself howmany people would play the standard maps no matter what? Every game is different, no matter howmany times you played the map. Maybe you "cannot see" the standard maps anymore, i'll play complex another 5000 times.


U rly wanna check, who plays the maps more often?

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This is just one month. 5000 times (the bunch of maps) is just ~1,5 years. I guess, I played it RLY often over the last years and I have a right to say, the fun drops constantly with those years and without new maps.

I have no doubt, that a lot more fun would be ingame with some new maps.


Not completely relevant but my theory is that the only reason they want to play these boring maps over an over
and not playing new maps is beacuse they want to stay as pros in there own little world.
They are afraid that when they start playing new maps they will be newbies.


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Re: almost 1 year [message #384735 is a reply to message #384579] Thu, 07 May 2009 03:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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BLuel4bel wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 11:13

Do you want me to make a poll, and see for yourself howmany people would play the standard maps no matter what? Every game is different, no matter howmany times you played the map. Maybe you "cannot see" the standard maps anymore, i'll play complex another 5000 times.

The thing is Complex is basically the same thing over and over. Nod gets Artys and whore Ref etc.
Maybe on the odd ocasion something else might happen like APC rush etc. But to me Complex is my least favorite standard map.
When ever it is the next map in a rotation I have a 50 percent chance of leaving to doing something else.


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Re: almost 1 year [message #384753 is a reply to message #384462] Thu, 07 May 2009 04:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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There's a lot of variety already on standard maps. I can understand why people want fanmaps. I'm personally afraid server owners may just pick any fanmap and disgust players because of the bugs, unbalance, ... It'll be up to the server owners to take the task of testing fanmaps seriously.

I do agree: cheaters have made a lot of regular players leave. Current cheats are very hard to catch, hence it's impossible to say if someone killed you because of skill or cheats. I'm not just thinking of *cheat name removed*but also of advantage skins and the likes. People using them even claim that it's normal to use them. That's very frustrating for players who want an even play level.

I still believe in the TT patch but I believe it's getting time to see progress. Renegade won't be along forever.


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Re: almost 1 year [message #384762 is a reply to message #384734] Thu, 07 May 2009 06:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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m00nLiTe wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 04:54


Not completely relevant but my theory is that the only reason they want to play these boring maps over an over
and not playing new maps is beacuse they want to stay as pros in there own little world.
They are afraid that when they start playing new maps they will be newbies.



yes, this is true for a lot of players, i guess.
they know the standard maps lile theire own flat, standard procedures FTW all the way.

Personally, I miss the CP2 maps.
Re: almost 1 year [message #384769 is a reply to message #384753] Thu, 07 May 2009 07:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 06:58


I still believe in the TT patch but I believe it's getting time to see progress. Renegade won't be along forever.

Totally agreed. This is the main issue. At a certain point in time this TT patch will relatively not be needed anymore because no one is playing this game anymore.

And plz don't come with an argument like "ppl thought ren would be dead 4 years ago, and yet we're still here". People are leaving renegade as we speak.
Re: almost 1 year [message #384987 is a reply to message #384769] Fri, 08 May 2009 04:42 Go to previous message
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lion wrote on Thu, 07 May 2009 09:21

People are leaving renegade as we speak.


i think, thats true. ~1 year ago ren ladder was showing a total of aprox. 16.000 players a month. now its about ~11.000

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