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Does anyone here think it should really be used for medical purposes? IMO we have enough pain killers. Don't get me wrong I want marijuana to be legalized, but this is just about Medical Marijuana. I think it's doing more harm than it is helping because it has more carcinogens than cigarettes, if I'm not mistaken. So it's really not smart for doctors to be handing their patients cancer. If someone wants to use it as a pain killer that's fine, but it really doesn't make sense that they would let doctors do this.

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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382554 is a reply to message #382528] Sat, 25 April 2009 11:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Discuss the topic or how wrong you are?

If you do a Google search, you can find sources that state smoking marijuana DOES NOT raise cancer risks. Oh, and want the first link that I got? Why, it's none other than the clearly unbalanced-to-the-right FOXNews.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196678,00.html

Edit: Carcinogens are not definitively linked to cancer. Here's a Yahoo Questions link that is answered by an actually INFORMED person who doesn't talk out of their ass, and she even links to a couple of sites.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071210222717AAqh3q3

And last, but certainly not least, I would highly suggest you read up on www.norml.org -- Yes, it's incredibly biased, but it doesn't follow annoying government propaganda and actually uses common sense findings.


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382562 is a reply to message #382528] Sat, 25 April 2009 11:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A lot of painkillers are addictive, and they are also detrimental to people's health. Frankly, if Marijuana helps people with debilitating conditions, I am for it, as long as they aren't selling it to other people.

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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382571 is a reply to message #382528] Sat, 25 April 2009 12:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I really don't give a fuck. It doesn't affect me.

On the other hand, I hold it to be self-evident that what people put in their own bodies is their own business, so long as it doesn't affect other human beings... I don't in any way oppose this. I also don't in any way oppose the overall legalization of weed, so long as it is regulated the same way alcohol is. The world would not end, society would not go down the shitter (it's already there), and pot plants would not sprout out from between sidewalk cracks to strangle unsuspecting passers-by.


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382572 is a reply to message #382571] Sat, 25 April 2009 12:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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NukeIt15 wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 12:32

society would not go down the shitter (it's already there)

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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382573 is a reply to message #382528] Sat, 25 April 2009 12:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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boy would i like some marijuana to cure my cold
Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382575 is a reply to message #382573] Sat, 25 April 2009 13:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Hitman wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 15:42

boy would i like some marijuana to cure my cold

And you should be able to have that right.


Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382581 is a reply to message #382528] Sat, 25 April 2009 13:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2GLOCK9S wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 11:34

Does anyone here think it should really be used for medical purposes? IMO we have enough pain killers. Don't get me wrong I want marijuana to be legalized, but this is just about Medical Marijuana. I think it's doing more harm than it is helping because it has more carcinogens than cigarettes, if I'm not mistaken. So it's really not smart for doctors to be handing their patients cancer. If someone wants to use it as a pain killer that's fine, but it really doesn't make sense that they would let doctors do this.

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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #382595 is a reply to message #382554] Sat, 25 April 2009 15:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 13:11

Discuss the topic or how wrong you are?

If you do a Google search, you can find sources that state smoking marijuana DOES NOT raise cancer risks. Oh, and want the first link that I got? Why, it's none other than the clearly unbalanced-to-the-right FOXNews.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,196678,00.html

Edit: Carcinogens are not definitively linked to cancer. Here's a Yahoo Questions link that is answered by an actually INFORMED person who doesn't talk out of their ass, and she even links to a couple of sites.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071210222717AAqh3q3

And last, but certainly not least, I would highly suggest you read up on www.norml.org -- Yes, it's incredibly biased, but it doesn't follow annoying government propaganda and actually uses common sense findings.

thanks for the info, don't be such an ass about it. I'm not a super big-head genius.


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384334 is a reply to message #382528] Tue, 05 May 2009 01:08 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2GLOCK9S wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 12:34

Does anyone here think it should really be used for medical purposes? IMO we have enough pain killers. Don't get me wrong I want marijuana to be legalized, but this is just about Medical Marijuana. I think it's doing more harm than it is helping because it has more carcinogens than cigarettes, if I'm not mistaken. So it's really not smart for doctors to be handing their patients cancer. If someone wants to use it as a pain killer that's fine, but it really doesn't make sense that they would let doctors do this.

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You've obviously never smoked weed.




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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384365 is a reply to message #382528] Tue, 05 May 2009 07:19 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think also depends on whos smoking it (I dont know how how the could find out but anyways..)

My friends smoke and they become the most stupid fucking idots ever..just last night after smoking went swimming with there phone in there front pocket...but like my sister and her freind they smoke a lot but they just get calmed down and they still very very smart

so some people smoke and become stupid slow and usually a bitch while others just calm down and still smart as they was before...it all depends for me
Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384391 is a reply to message #384365] Tue, 05 May 2009 10:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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SSnipe wrote on Tue, 05 May 2009 10:19

I think also depends on whos smoking it (I dont know how how the could find out but anyways..)

My friends smoke and they become the most stupid fucking idots ever..just last night after smoking went swimming with there phone in there front pocket...but like my sister and her freind they smoke a lot but they just get calmed down and they still very very smart

so some people smoke and become stupid slow and usually a bitch while others just calm down and still smart as they was before...it all depends for me

The same thing happens with alcohol, too. Same for caffeine and sugar. People have different tolerances for substances and substances affects peoples' brains differently.


Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384413 is a reply to message #384334] Tue, 05 May 2009 13:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2GLOCK9S wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 12:34

Does anyone here think it should really be used for medical purposes? IMO we have enough pain killers. Don't get me wrong I want marijuana to be legalized, but this is just about Medical Marijuana. I think it's doing more harm than it is helping because it has more carcinogens than cigarettes, if I'm not mistaken. So it's really not smart for doctors to be handing their patients cancer. If someone wants to use it as a pain killer that's fine, but it really doesn't make sense that they would let doctors do this.

Discuss

You've obviously never smoked weed.




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yeah i must never smoke.. shut the fuck up.. i'm just saying this shit isn't need for medical use.. it doesn't ease pain for me


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384637 is a reply to message #382528] Wed, 06 May 2009 11:49 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384639 is a reply to message #384637] Wed, 06 May 2009 12:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 13:49

I want the government to get the tax money from it.


In Canada, taxes from pot revenues would bring in over two billion dollars.

However, I think it should be heavily regulated, like cigarettes, hopefully putting much of its production in the hands of tobacco manufacturers.


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384649 is a reply to message #384639] Wed, 06 May 2009 12:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 14:01

luv2pb wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 13:49

I want the government to get the tax money from it.


In Canada, taxes from pot revenues would bring in over two billion dollars.

However, I think it should be heavily regulated, like cigarettes, hopefully putting much of its production in the hands of tobacco manufacturers.

no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!! we cannot let marijuana be regulated by the damn government, they control enough already.. it should be distributed just like it is now.. i don't want to pay tax to get high, tax would be through the fucking roof.


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384650 is a reply to message #384649] Wed, 06 May 2009 12:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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2GLOCK9S wrote on Wed, 06 May 2009 14:33


no no no no no no!!!!!!!!!!!!! we cannot let marijuana be regulated by the damn government, they control enough already.. it should be distributed just like it is now.. i don't want to pay tax to get high, tax would be through the fucking roof.


But everything else is taxed, like tobacco, and liquor. Marijuana should be taxed because it's a luxury. The taxes could be put towards infrastructure, or even paying for a medicare plan that would subsidize pills for people that need pain medication.


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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384687 is a reply to message #382554] Wed, 06 May 2009 18:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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cheesesoda wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 13:11


Carcinogens are not definitively linked to cancer.


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A substance or agent known to cause cancer.
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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #384688 is a reply to message #382528] Wed, 06 May 2009 18:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This isn't from any reputable source, but this sums up my thoughts on carcinogens, too...

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The definition of carcinogens is ridiculous. In short, we cannot figure out what exactly causes cancer, so we just do some correlations. If you've been reading yahoo news recently, the overnight shift at work is also one of those things that could potentially cause cancer. Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT stating that smoking doesn't cause cancer, it's just the definition of carcinogens is one of those 'loaded words' that we like to stick on things so that people don't do it.


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I personally think it should be legalized.....the bs propaganda movie Reefer Madness is the ONLY reason weed is illegal. The biggest scare tactic ever....I'd go on but this is about MM.

As far as that goes it's the first step in legalizing Marijuana imo.
Studies have shown it to help relieve pressure caused by Glaucoma.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090423221216AAsI3ue&grp_name=m edicalmarijuanafreedom&grp_spid=1600854053&grp_cat=/Health___Wellness/Dr ugs_and_Medications/Marijuana/Legalization&grp_user=0 ....check out the 2 links in the best answer answer....pretty interesting stuff....especially the 2nd one about the pharmaceutical companies studies.

But then again other studies have shown differently (based on the length of time THC relieves the pressure, and the side effects).
http://www.medem.com/medlib/article/ZZZXIEOMH4C
http://www.richmondeye.com/eyehealth_drugs.asp




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just don't let ur mom find it in the washer because u forgot to take it out of ur pants...

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Re: Medical Marijuana [message #385043 is a reply to message #382528] Fri, 08 May 2009 11:01 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only reason I feel it should be legalized is the money that the government can make from it...The US can make a major attempt to get out of their (what was it?) 6 trillion dollar deficit? or whatever it is currently.

That's just my opinion after hearing on the radio that some border patrol agents confescated about $600,000 worth of marajuana in the desert here...
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Zack wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 14:01

The only reason I feel it should be legalized is the money that the government can make from it...The US can make a major attempt to get out of their (what was it?) 6 trillion dollar deficit? or whatever it is currently.

That's just my opinion after hearing on the radio that some border patrol agents confescated about $600,000 worth of marajuana in the desert here...

You don't care about individual liberty... just the tax revenue... nice.


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cheesesoda wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 17:40

Zack wrote on Fri, 08 May 2009 14:01

The only reason I feel it should be legalized is the money that the government can make from it...The US can make a major attempt to get out of their (what was it?) 6 trillion dollar deficit? or whatever it is currently.

That's just my opinion after hearing on the radio that some border patrol agents confescated about $600,000 worth of marajuana in the desert here...

You don't care about individual liberty... just the tax revenue... nice.

who knows how high the tax would be.. obviously some drugs are bad, but marijuana doesn't make some1 go fucking crazy and kill somebody... i don't see what the big effin deal about it is.


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