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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382905 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 04:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Guys how dare you all question a n00bstories staff member. It does nothing but get you outed from their butthurt eliteist circlejerk of a community. Or you could just end up like ma1kel, banned for making the n00bstories admins upset.


tl;dr: Just don't question andr3w or you'll be banned by the renforums staff. Do not tell them that their work is questionable. That is just really unacceptable.

A reminder: n00bstories, BHS and Renforums staff have nothing to do with eachother.
Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382906 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 04:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel's ban is unrelated to this topic. Maybe you should do a search on his last messages to get a clue on why he's banned: http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=showposts&id=19783&rid=4882

Renforum's staff is unrelated to n00bstories, except for Crimson but she ain't really very active on renforums. I must've played on the n00bstories server for about half an hour total during the last few years and am not active at all at their forums...


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382907 is a reply to message #382559] Mon, 27 April 2009 04:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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andr3w282 wrote on Sat, 25 April 2009 14:21

I'm more then happy to release what I have including the source to SPECIFIC individuals.


I would very much like to look at the source. If you're willing to send it to me that would be nice.



Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382909 is a reply to message #382906] Mon, 27 April 2009 04:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 04:37

Ma1kel's ban is unrelated to this topic. Maybe you should do a search on his last messages to get a clue on why he's banned: http://www.renegadeforums.com/index.php?t=showposts&id=19783&rid=4882

Renforum's staff is unrelated to n00bstories, except for Crimson but she ain't really very active on renforums. I must've played on the n00bstories server for about half an hour total during the last few years and am not active at all at their forums...


Watch out, Goztow, trolls are resistant to Logic-type damage...


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382912 is a reply to message #382909] Mon, 27 April 2009 05:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 07:51


Watch out, Goztow, trolls are resistant to Logic-type damage...



Yes how illogical of me to conclude that ns is involved whereas ma1kel was banned immediately following a (gasp) negative post about andr3w's overlay.

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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382913 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 05:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Please do not ignore my post.

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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382915 is a reply to message #382913] Mon, 27 April 2009 05:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Goztow wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 07:11

Please do not ignore my post.


What?

You mad?
Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382918 is a reply to message #382915] Mon, 27 April 2009 05:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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null.var wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 07:13

Goztow wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 07:11

Please do not ignore my post.


What?

You mad?


good avatar....


Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382946 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 08:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Don't question a n00bstories admin? because yes clearly I don't want people raising arguments , questions and comments on this and that's exactly why I kept my mouth shut and never made a post about this at all. Sarcasm

If you actually are as logical as you say you are, null, you would read all of these posts and take notice I'm simply defending and shooting down all the nonsense scrin has thrown at me in which case Ma1kel decided to attempt to do the same thing. NS had no involvement with banning him and I'm actually disapointed that he never had the oppurtunity to reply to me... so please get off n00bstories dick and stop trying to think we run Renegade.


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382951 is a reply to message #382912] Mon, 27 April 2009 08:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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null.var wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 05:06

Dover wrote on Mon, 27 April 2009 07:51


Watch out, Goztow, trolls are resistant to Logic-type damage...



Yes how illogical of me to conclude that ns is involved whereas ma1kel was banned immediately following a (gasp) negative post about andr3w's overlay.


Yes. This is an example of what's known as inductive reasoning, or taking a specific example and drawing a broad conclusion from it.

For example, children with larger feet have known to be smarter. Your brand of logic would say "Ah-hah! The key to inteligence! We should take all our children and put them on foot-stretching racks immediately!", without paying heed for anything underlying factors which influences both variables (Like a child's age).

In our situation, the underlying factor that you're ignoring is ma1kel spamming like a fucking retard. Here are a few of his pearls of wisdom:
Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 17:02

twitter more like shitter

Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 16:59

shit looks like a failure, just like your life.

Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 16:58

Buy a windows pc, install linux, and masturbate to being awesome

Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 16:56

consoles are for fags

Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 26 April 2009 16:53

hes talking about drugs obviously

also you're all fags

...And all this just after his week ban expired.



TL;DR, you don't have any support for your conclusion beyond "Coincidence?! I THINK NOT!" type of evidence, which is laughable at best and bullshit at worst.


u mad?


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382956 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 09:06 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Even if Andrew is using his radar to cheat, and only disabled enemy teams for videos and screen shots. No one can tell him what to program or force him to release anything.
If he's caught cheating that's a different matter, and so far, the server owner at the server he plays. Which happens to be n00bstories, is ok with him using this mod. So, if you don't like him using it, you can just play elsewhere, or if you're the server owner go ahead and ban him. No one else really has much of say in this, although you are completely entitled to your opinion. Just don't expect anyone to care about it.
Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382988 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 11:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lmao, Ma1kel's a champ
Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #382997 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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oh shit null is here. This thread is officially maxed out on stupid now. Watch out this script kiddy might fuck you up. Hes gonna post some html in your shit to ajax my password!!!11111 Except just like his life he screwed that up too.

Joey (may I call you joey?), do you honestly believe there is anyone here who cares even a little bit what you think? Well except for ma1kel who beats you off while you two hide in supra gaming and RAGE against n00bstories.


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383062 is a reply to message #382245] Mon, 27 April 2009 17:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383160 is a reply to message #383062] Tue, 28 April 2009 06:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Muad Dib15 wrote on Tue, 28 April 2009 02:05

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Why would it be locked if it's already in "Heated Discussions and Debates"? Common sense, use it.


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383277 is a reply to message #382245] Tue, 28 April 2009 16:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It will get too heated and Gozy will get sick of going to the report message thing on his board to this topic. He will then lock it. It's happened before.

Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383362 is a reply to message #382245] Tue, 28 April 2009 23:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Noone reported this yet Razz. And it's not very high on my heato-meter, yet.

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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383363 is a reply to message #382245] Tue, 28 April 2009 23:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Now that I'm assured this topic isn't threatened with imminent death, where can I get that deliciousness of yours, andr3w?

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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383402 is a reply to message #382245] Wed, 29 April 2009 06:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The transparent map overlay showing positions and name of ones OWN team members is a fucking great idea and it would be cool, if it would be included in TT. Smile

but on the other side because of its potential this project could be the end of renegade Sad

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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383406 is a reply to message #383402] Wed, 29 April 2009 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rrutk wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 06:59

The transparent map overlay showing positions and name of ones OWN team members is a fucking great idea and it would be cool, if it would be included in TT. Smile

but on the other side because of its potential this project could be the end of renegade Sad


People have been saying "X will be the end of Renegade" for years now. The way I see it, this can only improve teamplay. In combination with TeamSpeak or some similar communication tool, this would make coordination much easier.


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383425 is a reply to message #382245] Wed, 29 April 2009 08:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sure the way it is shown here, it can improve renegade a lot. teamplay, and...how often did i ask myself on glacier "where to fuck i am and where are the others?"...

but imagine the code would become public and through it a hax buildt, which shows the oponents too???

gameplay, e.g. trying to sneak in, would become senseless. it would be more then a radar hack, because its so detailed.

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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383444 is a reply to message #383425] Wed, 29 April 2009 10:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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rrutk wrote on Wed, 29 April 2009 08:30

sure the way it is shown here, it can improve renegade a lot. teamplay, and...how often did i ask myself on glacier "where to fuck i am and where are the others?"...

but imagine the code would become public and through it a hax buildt, which shows the oponents too???

gameplay, e.g. trying to sneak in, would become senseless. it would be more then a radar hack, because its so detailed.


Radar hacks already exist.


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Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383448 is a reply to message #382245] Wed, 29 April 2009 11:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Dover, Andrew kindly sent me the source code to the map over-view feature.
With extemely little effort you could turn the map over-view thing into sommething horrible, I am one of the least knowledgable coders on this forum, and I could quite easily make r g h look like an amatuers attempt within an evening, less infact.
A radar hack is the least of concerns. Infact that would be so easy with this code that all you would have to do is delete lines of code (lines written deliberatly to stop it functioning as a radar hack), you wouldn't even really need any knowledge for that. Just delete some lines and compile it.
Seriously, a release of this would be a bad idea. I'm not kidding.



Re: Renegade IRC overlay discussion - cleared [message #383450 is a reply to message #382245] Wed, 29 April 2009 11:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I don't doubt it, and I'm not pushing for andr3w to release this publically, at least as an standalone mod. All I'm saying is this feature is bitching, it has the potential to expand teamplay (Something Renegade can't get enough of). I'd like to see this feature implemented into the Core of Renegade, perhaps through a TT-style patch. Imagine the positive effects on the game it could have, especially if combined with a Counter-Strike style built-in VoIP communication system.

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Yeah, in that circumstance it would seriously own.


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