| Re: Anyone want Troop back [message #377945 is a reply to message #377934] |
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| u6795 wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 04:05 |
| so say we all. wrote on Sun, 29 March 2009 18:07 |
can he play the 1v1s vs. spoony first though?
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This is possibly the greatest idea ever.
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This seems like win to me. But I'm unsure if Spoony still plays Ren.
Edit: don't care / don't know votes will be excluded.
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| Re: Anyone want Troop back [message #377957 is a reply to message #377952] |
Mon, 30 March 2009 00:50 |
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no, I don't. I didn't even know he was banned, actually.
things have come to a strange point where one must play a 1v1 in order to get unbanned from a forum, eh? I know you were joking, but if you included that as one of the options I have a feeling it would probably be winning.
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| Re: Anyone want Troop back [message #378060 is a reply to message #377879] |
Mon, 30 March 2009 13:58 |
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Yeah Trooprm had a hundred second chances, and all he did was piss everybody off for no apparent reason. If this time off has "changed" him, then that's what he needs - more time off the Renegade forums.
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| Re: Anyone want Troop back [message #378084 is a reply to message #377879] |
Mon, 30 March 2009 18:49 |
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Because those don't teach anything.
Only long bans that are permanent give lessons. Warnings and suspensions just make the person realize why they were caught, they don't teach any lessons though, meaning the person is still going to continue what they were doing, just in a different way.
It also depends how the person broke the rules. For example, if it was an accidental breaking of the rules, any form of punishment, no matter how small, will insure it will never happen again. But for problems that troop caused, a simple warning or week long suspension will not stop him from continuing on in the future.
That's why only permanent bans being lifted should count as new chances. If he has never had a previous permanent ban lifted before, then he has never gotten any second chances. Red flags, maybe, but no second chances.
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| Re: Anyone want Troop back [message #378087 is a reply to message #378084] |
Mon, 30 March 2009 19:26 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 21:49 |
Because those don't teach anything.
Only long bans that are permanent give lessons. Warnings and suspensions just make the person realize why they were caught, they don't teach any lessons though, meaning the person is still going to continue what they were doing, just in a different way.
It also depends how the person broke the rules. For example, if it was an accidental breaking of the rules, any form of punishment, no matter how small, will insure it will never happen again. But for problems that troop caused, a simple warning or week long suspension will not stop him from continuing on in the future.
That's why only permanent bans being lifted should count as new chances. If he has never had a previous permanent ban lifted before, then he has never gotten any second chances. Red flags, maybe, but no second chances.
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Hurr, no. That's the stupidest logic. Using your reasoning, people should be allowed to do whatever they want and have no worry about ruining their "first" chance until they're banned permanently. Only "permanent" is anything but with your logic.
The same stupid flaw happens with many court systems. Being sentenced to life is a joke. Most people get out on parole. Knowing this, they don't actually have to be rehabilitated. They just have to play nice. It doesn't teach anybody anything. Besides, you can't rehabilitate people that don't want to be rehabilitated. Like BlueThen said, bans aren't to rehabilitate people. It's to keep the community nice. That's why I support prisons, not because it can rehabilitate people, but that it gets assholes off the streets.
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| Re: Anyone want Troop back [message #378180 is a reply to message #378178] |
Tue, 31 March 2009 15:16 |
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| R315r4z0r wrote on Tue, 31 March 2009 17:10 |
| cheesesoda wrote on Mon, 30 March 2009 22:26 |
Hurr, no. That's the stupidest logic. Using your reasoning, people should be allowed to do whatever they want and have no worry about ruining their "first" chance until they're banned permanently. Only "permanent" is anything but with your logic.
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Tell me, how is suspending someone's account for an allotted time considered "giving them another chance?"
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It's just showing how the admin could have just as easily banned him permanently, like now. Why should we disregard everything trooprm02 has done, and all the trouble he has caused, and the many times he was warned and suspended, and just let him back in again?
Seriously, that's like someone robbing a store right after they're let out of jail for the 5th time, and they only put him back in for just a week.
Anyways, we (I, atleast), don't give a shit if he thinks he's "rehabilitated" or is a better person. I don't want to have to put up with him and these kind of arguments all over again.
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but am not borthred if he is banned or not, whatever. 
