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Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376964] Sat, 21 March 2009 08:44 Go to next message
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Even now, there are conflicting theories of how the ancient Egyptians managed to build giant towering pyramids in the middle of the desert.

In a couple thousand years, the humans of tommorrow will be wondering how brainless backward apes managed to build rockets and fly off into space and land on the moon.

The human journey is an incredible one, isn't it?

Here's a toast to yet another 3000 years of human progress!

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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376965 is a reply to message #376964] Sat, 21 March 2009 08:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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all of this has happened before, and it will happen again. again. again.


Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376969 is a reply to message #376964] Sat, 21 March 2009 09:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The only reason why we don't know how Egyptians managed to make those pyramids is because they weren't very clear in the record and evidence department.

Humans forever in the future of this planet will always know when different things happened.. like when we made our first touchdown on the moon.. simply because we have the records to prove it and they are easy to understand.

It's not like one day everyone will suddenly forget all forms of language and lose all memory of things that happened in the past. There will always be someone to carry on the knowledge.

The only way that things like this would be forgotten is if we were to move to other places in space, be it a space colony or even another planet. Eventually things like that would be forgotten through time. But as long as we live on Earth, and there is no near human extinction disaster, we shouldn't forget something like that any time soon. Not even in 3000 years.
Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376974 is a reply to message #376969] Sat, 21 March 2009 09:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 21 March 2009 10:11

The only reason why we don't know how Egyptians managed to make those pyramids is because they weren't very clear in the record and evidence department.

Humans forever in the future of this planet will always know when different things happened.. like when we made our first touchdown on the moon.. simply because we have the records to prove it and they are easy to understand.

It's not like one day everyone will suddenly forget all forms of language and lose all memory of things that happened in the past. There will always be someone to carry on the knowledge.

The only way that things like this would be forgotten is if we were to move to other places in space, be it a space colony or even another planet. Eventually things like that would be forgotten through time. But as long as we live on Earth, and there is no near human extinction disaster, we shouldn't forget something like that any time soon. Not even in 3000 years.



That's a very good point and I gave that a fair amount of thought before making my post...as far as I can imagine there are many variables that may or maynot (hopefully) affect this.

Even our best records preservation system (for physical video film, photos) last for only 200-300 years (according to History channel documentary) and keeping them in adequate temperature is necessary as well. This applies for paper as well.

My guess is it comes down to education. As long as the information is reproduced and studied by future generations, then it will not be forgotten easily. After all we got some form of education system going on across the whole world at this point.

Then there are natural and man-made catastrophes that may or maynot affect this such as nuclear war and earthquakes or any major change.

It maybe safe to assume that physical things like the Eagle lander on the moon and Mount Rushmore and my egg frying pan stand a lot better chance of surviving and being a record to future humans than video and paper which are more expensive to preserve.

So it maybe that it may not be THAT easy for the future humans to get to the info.

I am also slightly skeptical whether the countries of today will exist in 3000 years though even though I feel somewhat that with todays technology and our understanding of the world, it maybe possible to last that long.

a lot of unknown variables stand a chance for disrupting our established cycle but does not mean necessarily those would occur and affect the way we live and pass on.


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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376982 is a reply to message #376964] Sat, 21 March 2009 10:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I'm skeptical as well as if countries today will exist tomorrow.. America is on the brink of destruction <_<

However, about records.. you looking at it from a standpoint that there is some sort of gap in the human time line. A few thousand year gap.

It's not as if once something happens and is recorded, everyone forgets experiencing the matter first hand. Not only that, but then there are teachers and schools that spread the knowledge, countless numbers of textbooks and encyclopedias that preserve the knowledge, not to mention the human mind that holds the knowledge as long as they want.

It's not something that people will all forget and then happen to come on again later saying "Oh yea, we did that in the past!"

Records may deteriorate after a few hundred years, but the information continues to live on and be remade into new records.
Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376993 is a reply to message #376982] Sat, 21 March 2009 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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of course yes i ain't disputing that, the concepts go on, the person or people behind it become faded over time till it's only a memory and less than that.

for example: the wheel

Frontier Psychiatrist wrote on Sat, 21 March 2009 09:45

all of this has happened before, and it will happen again. again. again.





Did you watch Battlestar Galactica lol


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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #376996 is a reply to message #376964] Sat, 21 March 2009 12:31 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377095 is a reply to message #376964] Sat, 21 March 2009 22:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Yes, but the wheel is in the same boat as the pyramids..

We don't know when it was made exactly for 2 reasons:
1. Because it was made before any standardized time measurements were created. There was no day, week, year, ect. Nothing to base it off of and compare to in this day in age.
2. No logical record was recorded other than word of mouth.

The only reason why it is commonly used today is because of its simple design and handy uses.

It's like a rumor. It spreads and spreads, gaining wherever it can, but its origins were never truly known because they weren't exactly important during that time period. Big Ups

(edit: I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just figure, it's in the "heated discussions and debates forum" so I might as well pick at what I can.. lol.)

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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377126 is a reply to message #376964] Sun, 22 March 2009 05:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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3000 more years of meaningless suffering.

Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377134 is a reply to message #377126] Sun, 22 March 2009 06:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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R315r4z0r wrote on Sat, 21 March 2009 23:34

(edit: I'm not trying to pick a fight, I just figure, it's in the "heated discussions and debates forum" so I might as well pick at what I can.. lol.)


no problem lol and fair enough but I am not going to pick back. This was meant to be hearty thread and I conveniently ignored certain things while starting topic.

Ma1kel wrote on Sun, 22 March 2009 06:52

3000 more years of meaningless suffering.


I am thinking the same damn thing. Once wonders what all this is about.


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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377192 is a reply to message #376964] Sun, 22 March 2009 13:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I've given a ton of thought to shit like this and to be honest I have no idea..

One thing I can say though is that we'll never lose the information we have stored today if no apocalyptic disaster strikes, we just transfer data from medium to medium as new ones are invented. Case and point: VCR to DVD.


yeah

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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377270 is a reply to message #376964] Mon, 23 March 2009 10:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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At work, some co-workers and I discussing poison berries, and one dude had to wonder how many cavemen, and primitive humans died ingesting said berries, twigs n' shit just so the rest of us know what will taste good, and what will make you throw up and shit blood.

I found it kind of profound, but also incredibly funny.


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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377276 is a reply to message #377270] Mon, 23 March 2009 13:52 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 17:57

At work, some co-workers and I discussing poison berries, and one dude had to wonder how many cavemen, and primitive humans died ingesting said berries, twigs n' shit just so the rest of us know what will taste good, and what will make you throw up and shit blood.

I found it kind of profound, but also incredibly funny.


Probably not many, they had a lot more common sense that to "just eat" something they'd never seen before.
Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377283 is a reply to message #377276] Mon, 23 March 2009 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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RoShamBo wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 14:52

nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 17:57

At work, some co-workers and I discussing poison berries, and one dude had to wonder how many cavemen, and primitive humans died ingesting said berries, twigs n' shit just so the rest of us know what will taste good, and what will make you throw up and shit blood.

I found it kind of profound, but also incredibly funny.


Probably not many, they had a lot more common sense that to "just eat" something they'd never seen before.


They probably ate and if it tasted bitter, then spat it out. Then whatever posion that was in it took effect and the other humans around the one who took the bite learned from the experience.

A LOT of humans died over the course of history so far for some of the things today for which we have the cure.

So it's been a learning experience and we still are learning. Today's humans die of cancer and STD's for which I am pretty sure the humans of tommorrow would enjoy the immediate cures for.


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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377286 is a reply to message #377283] Mon, 23 March 2009 15:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 21:46

RoShamBo wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 14:52

nikki6ixx wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 17:57

At work, some co-workers and I discussing poison berries, and one dude had to wonder how many cavemen, and primitive humans died ingesting said berries, twigs n' shit just so the rest of us know what will taste good, and what will make you throw up and shit blood.

I found it kind of profound, but also incredibly funny.


Probably not many, they had a lot more common sense that to "just eat" something they'd never seen before.


They probably ate and if it tasted bitter, then spat it out. Then whatever posion that was in it took effect and the other humans around the one who took the bite learned from the experience.

A LOT of humans died over the course of history so far for some of the things today for which we have the cure.

So it's been a learning experience and we still are learning. Today's humans die of cancer and STD's for which I am pretty sure the humans of tommorrow would enjoy the immediate cures for.
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Didn't the cold used to be a killer? Or something like that that we wouldn't even think as too bad these days.





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Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377378 is a reply to message #377283] Wed, 25 March 2009 09:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 17:46


So it's been a learning experience and we still are learning. Today's humans die of cancer and STD's for which I am pretty sure the humans of tommorrow would enjoy the immediate cures for.

Like not having sex?


Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377410 is a reply to message #377378] Wed, 25 March 2009 12:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 10:58

pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 17:46


So it's been a learning experience and we still are learning. Today's humans die of cancer and STD's for which I am pretty sure the humans of tommorrow would enjoy the immediate cures for.

Like not having sex?


I meant medical cures. Sarcasm


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pawkyfox wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 13:53

Ma1kel wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 10:58

pawkyfox wrote on Mon, 23 March 2009 17:46


So it's been a learning experience and we still are learning. Today's humans die of cancer and STD's for which I am pretty sure the humans of tommorrow would enjoy the immediate cures for.

Like not having sex?


I meant medical cures. Sarcasm

Like not having sex?
Re: Humans of yesterday, today and tommorrow [message #377418 is a reply to message #376964] Wed, 25 March 2009 14:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ma1kel wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 17:26

not having sex cured my aids

I bet you never had AIDS!
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Oh believe me he had aids


i gave it to him.
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Frontier Psychiatrist wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 15:39

Oh believe me he had aids


i gave it to him.


I'd assume he was kinda butthurt about that?


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nikki6ixx wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 22:30

Frontier Psychiatrist wrote on Wed, 25 March 2009 15:39

Oh believe me he had aids


i gave it to him.


I'd assume he was kinda butthurt about that?



It certainly made his (w)hole weak.



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That reminds me of something. You need to watch "Ancient Aliens" on the History channel. It's about the Mayans and Egyptians. It explains a theory that we were visited by an alien species thousands of years ago. They explain how this could be possible, and I really think it could've happened. There are a lot of unexplainable phenomena that happened. Man has build a couple of structures that resemble the planet alignments exactly, and there is only one way to really explain it, aliens.

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Or time travelers. Or Jesus.

Or some black dude named Jesus (Hey-Zeus) from the future.
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