Home » General Discussions » Heated Discussions and Debates » luv2pb cares about the community.
( ) 3 Votes
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363668 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 00:08   |
 |
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
lol dicktree.
I actually remember when Null was around. I remember him getting B& too, but maybe I'm mis-remembering. I distinctly remember him being a dicktree back then, too, before he had a year and a half to let it all his pent up ReneRage ferment.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363683 is a reply to message #363681] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 02:16 |
 |
Spoony
Messages: 3915
Registered: January 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars)
Tactics & Strategies Moderator |
|
|
a lot of people (including me) wouldn't say I am "old school" as far as ren goes, but for some reason null named myself and crimson as the two people he "missed from the old days"... so how were the old days, hmmm? my knowledge of null/slavik/yoshimitsu can be summed up in three brief points.
1. used to be in WSE, the pricks who brought cheating to renegade in the first place. in null's own words: "the purpose of WSE was to fuck up the game as much as possible"
2. first point at which I heard of him personally: turned out he was seriously plotting to ddos attack the official renegade servers.
3. first point at which he involved himself with me: he went to EA and told them some bullshit lies about how I ddosed some renegade community sites, including this one right here... utterly made up of course, and pretty ironic considering the source. I busted him lying on all this, and his only response was the bizarre statement that he "was not going to be blackmailed"... (huh?)
so... in his rant to luv2pb he whines on and on about people who don't know or care who he is... if I'm one of the people who does (according to him...) then that's gotta be a good thing, considering the entire extent of my knowledge of null is three things, all of them very, very bad.
still, let's make the pretense of balance here. admittedly if there is anything good to be said about you, I am not aware of it... so the floor is yours, slavik453.
Unleash the Renerageâ„¢
Renedrama [ren-i-drah-muh]
- noun
1. the inevitable criticism one receives after doing something awful
[Updated on: Thu, 18 December 2008 02:56] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363684 is a reply to message #363681] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 03:01 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 00:54 |
| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 02:08 |
lol dicktree.
I actually remember when Null was around. I remember him getting B& too, but maybe I'm mis-remembering. I distinctly remember him being a dicktree back then, too, before he had a year and a half to let it all his pent up ReneRage ferment.
|
Registered: March 2006
|
And? March was before a year and a half ago. I don't understand the point of your post.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363686 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 03:21 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
I don't recall seeing him on NS. I recall seeing him on these forums and thinking "Wow, what a jackass".
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363687 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 03:32 |
 |
GEORGE ZIMMER
Messages: 2605
Registered: March 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
TO SUMMARIZE THIS ALL:
null.var is some guy who got kicked out of n00bstories ages back. He got pissed off at luv2pb because he got in a high spot, even though null.var (AKA his apparent tons of other names) got kicked out. null.var thinks he's hot shit, when in reality, he's another shitbag no one cares about. luv2pb totally gave Crimson oral ( ). If you don't know who null.var is, you're clearly not an oldbie, and do not deserve to talk. You must know every vague aspect about him, and if you can't decode his cryptic (AKA, nonexistent) information he's posted about himself, then you are scum.
Someone may correct me if I'm wrong.
I personally blame Surth for all of this.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
|
FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!   
|
[Updated on: Thu, 18 December 2008 03:33] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363690 is a reply to message #363687] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 03:59 |
 |
havocide3
Messages: 110
Registered: June 2003
Karma: 0
|
Recruit |
|
|
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 05:32 |
TO SUMMARIZE THIS ALL:
null.var is some guy who got kicked out of n00bstories ages back.
|
truth
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 05:32 |
He got pissed off at luv2pb because he got in a high spot, even though null.var (AKA his apparent tons of other names) got kicked out.
|
false - also watch for repetition
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 05:32 |
null.var thinks he's hot shit, when in reality, he's another shitbag no one cares about.
|
Cabal8616
Registered: March 2006
Maybe if you were here back in 2003-2005, you would know and appreciate what he has done.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 05:32 |
luv2pb totally gave Crimson oral (). If you don't know who null.var is, you're clearly not an oldbie, and do not deserve to talk.
|
Wrong. You don't have to know who he is, but you shouldn't act like you know the history of Null and his past here (Enough people act here as it is!). That just makes you look like (as Nikki6ixx puts it) a dicktree.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 05:32 |
You must know every vague aspect about him, and if you can't decode his cryptic (AKA, nonexistent) information he's posted about himself, then you are scum.
|
If you knew every vague aspect about him, you would be a stalker... it takes some background about early Ren days to understand what he's saying about himself... earlier than March 2006.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 05:32 |
Someone may correct me if I'm wrong.
|
I got your back, no worries.
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363692 is a reply to message #363690] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 04:15 |
|
GEORGE ZIMMER
Messages: 2605
Registered: March 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 04:59 |
false - also watch for repetition
|
Perhaps I should have elaborated on my last bit. When I said "correct me", I didn't mean just say "true" or "false" or "you're wrong". Present me with a fairly detailed analysis, and I will be able to understand the situation more. I'd much more prefer null.var himself to do this, but oh well.
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 04:59 |
Cabal8616
Registered: March 2006
Maybe if you were here back in 2003-2005, you would know and appreciate what he has done.
|
You're right, I don't know who he is- it doesn't help that he keeps playing the "I'm a mysterious guy who not too many people know. Hey, what? You don't know me?! NEWFAG" card. It's damned annoying, and you're using the same mentality. Explain some, that's kind of what I WANTED to see in this topic- people elaborating on his apparent background. I won't necessarily take yours or his word as absolute fact naturally, unless multiple people, including people like Luv2pb, Spoony, Crimson, and so on agree that it's a fact.
Also, by posting join dates and then dismissing any opinions that oppose yours soley because of said join date, it makes you look incredibly pretentious.
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 04:59 |
Wrong. You don't have to know who he is, but you shouldn't act like you know the history of Null and his past here (Enough people act here as it is!). That just makes you look like (as Nikki6ixx puts it) a dicktree.
|
Not saying I absolutely know his history, either. I'm simply going on what has been said here, naturally. Once again, if my summary is wrong, prove it wrong with facts and logic. Not just contradictory statements.
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 04:59 |
If you knew every vague aspect about him, you would be a stalker... it takes some background about early Ren days to understand what he's saying about himself... earlier than March 2006.
|
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Hyperbole
I CLEARLY meant that seriously, right? 
If you look past the sarcasm though, you'd see my point. Then again, maybe not, you're pulling the same shit he is.
Now let's be real here for a second. Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off. I wouldn't mind QUITE as much, if both you and null.var had given further facts and statements that actually were logical and had a point to them. But it honestly just feels like some shitty business. You have to have connections and have been there for awhile- nevermind your competence or ability or anything, the only thing that apparently matters is how long you've been here.
Toggle Spoiler| Scrin wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 13:22 |
| cAmpa wrote on Sat, 24 January 2009 12:45 |
Scrin, stop pming people to get the building bars.
|
FUCK YOU AND THIS SHIT GAME WITH YOUR SCRIPTS!!! I HAVE ASKING YOU AND ANOTHER NOOBS HERE ABOUT HELP WITH THAT BUILDING ICONS FEATURES FOR YEARS, BUT YOU KEEP IGNORING ME AND KEEP WRITE SHIT, SO BURN YOU AND YOUR ASSLICKERS FRIENDS, THIS TIME I'M NOT COME BACK!!!!!!!!!
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363697 is a reply to message #363690] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 04:51 |
|
Spoony
Messages: 3915
Registered: January 2006
Karma: 0
|
General (3 Stars)
Tactics & Strategies Moderator |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 04:59 |
Maybe if you were here back in 2003-2005, you would know and appreciate what he has done.
|
go ahead and fill us newbies in, and let's see if the good outweighs the bad? like I said, I can only speak from personal experience with him... all of which is very, very bad, so by all means let's hear the positive... given that a handful of people here seem to think he's a prick and the rest don't know him.
Unleash the Renerageâ„¢
Renedrama [ren-i-drah-muh]
- noun
1. the inevitable criticism one receives after doing something awful
[Updated on: Thu, 18 December 2008 05:12] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363754 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 14:32 |
|
havocide3
Messages: 110
Registered: June 2003
Karma: 0
|
Recruit |
|
|
Well I don't know how secret this is so I don't want to spill the beans, but go ask Crimson about what Khold, xptek, null, Lee, and a few others worked on for quite a while. 
EDIT: Nikki and Eth and whoever the fuck the other guy is, please take your shenanigans to another thread.
EDIT2:
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 06:15 |
Now let's be real here for a second. Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.
|
It's the new people like these 3 idiots who posted above me (Ethenal, Nikki, and whoever the fuck fobby is)
[Updated on: Thu, 18 December 2008 14:37] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363757 is a reply to message #363754] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 14:41 |
 |
u6795
Messages: 1261
Registered: March 2006
Location: Maryland
Karma: 0
|
General (1 Star) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:32 |
Well I don't know how secret this is so I don't want to spill the beans, but go ask Crimson about what Khold, xptek, null, Lee, and a few others worked on for quite a while.
EDIT: Nikki and Eth and whoever the fuck the other guy is, please take your shenanigans to another thread.
EDIT2:
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 06:15 |
Now let's be real here for a second. Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.
|
It's the new people like these 3 idiots who posted above me (Ethenal, Nikki, and whoever the fuck fobby is)
|
Whoever the fuck Fobby is? I bet if you asked around here more people would recognize his name quicker than yours. You may be an oldbie but for christ sake learn about a person before you insult them. Fobby contributes so much more to this community than most of the people in this thread combined. Stop being such a prick.
Nikki is a good guy too and despite his join date being after yours (HOLY SHIT NEWFAG WTF BBQ) I think a lot of people have very high respect for him. Ethenal as well.
I think the thing is they (among many others) realize this thread is a pile of shit that means nothing to mostly everyone. You've missed a lot, but PLECOS is basically Renegade forums self moderation.
Shit changes when you don't check a forum for a million years or whatever you've been busy doing that supersedes the Renegade community. Don't expect to be on top of the mountain the moment you come back.
yeah
[Updated on: Thu, 18 December 2008 14:42] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363762 is a reply to message #363757] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 14:50 |
|
havocide3
Messages: 110
Registered: June 2003
Karma: 0
|
Recruit |
|
|
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:41 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:32 |
Well I don't know how secret this is so I don't want to spill the beans, but go ask Crimson about what Khold, xptek, null, Lee, and a few others worked on for quite a while.
EDIT: Nikki and Eth and whoever the fuck the other guy is, please take your shenanigans to another thread.
EDIT2:
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 06:15 |
Now let's be real here for a second. Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.
|
It's the new people like these 3 idiots who posted above me (Ethenal, Nikki, and whoever the fuck fobby is)
|
Whoever the fuck Fobby is? I bet if you asked around here more people would recognize his name quicker than yours. You may be an oldbie but for christ sake learn about a person before you insult them. Fobby contributes so much more to this community than most of the people in this thread combined. Stop being such a prick.
Nikki is a good guy too and despite his join date being after yours (HOLY SHIT NEWFAG WTF BBQ) I think a lot of people have very high respect for him. Ethenal as well.
I think the thing is they (among many others) realize this thread is a pile of shit that means nothing to mostly everyone. You've missed a lot, but PLECOS is basically Renegade forums self moderation.
Shit changes when you don't check a forum for a million years or whatever you've been busy doing that supersedes the Renegade community. Don't expect to be on top of the mountain the moment you come back.
|
Sorry, I don't keep up with every single person here. And no, I don't expect everyone to know who I am.
I beg to differ on Ethenal and Nikki...
This thread is a pile of shit?
And who ever said I was on top of the mountain? Where did I ever say I was at the top of the mountain? What makes you think I am at the top of the mountain?
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363764 is a reply to message #363762] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 14:52 |
|
u6795
Messages: 1261
Registered: March 2006
Location: Maryland
Karma: 0
|
General (1 Star) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:50 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:41 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:32 |
Well I don't know how secret this is so I don't want to spill the beans, but go ask Crimson about what Khold, xptek, null, Lee, and a few others worked on for quite a while.
EDIT: Nikki and Eth and whoever the fuck the other guy is, please take your shenanigans to another thread.
EDIT2:
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 06:15 |
Now let's be real here for a second. Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.
|
It's the new people like these 3 idiots who posted above me (Ethenal, Nikki, and whoever the fuck fobby is)
|
Whoever the fuck Fobby is? I bet if you asked around here more people would recognize his name quicker than yours. You may be an oldbie but for christ sake learn about a person before you insult them. Fobby contributes so much more to this community than most of the people in this thread combined. Stop being such a prick.
Nikki is a good guy too and despite his join date being after yours (HOLY SHIT NEWFAG WTF BBQ) I think a lot of people have very high respect for him. Ethenal as well.
I think the thing is they (among many others) realize this thread is a pile of shit that means nothing to mostly everyone. You've missed a lot, but PLECOS is basically Renegade forums self moderation.
Shit changes when you don't check a forum for a million years or whatever you've been busy doing that supersedes the Renegade community. Don't expect to be on top of the mountain the moment you come back.
|
Sorry, I don't keep up with every single person here. And no, I don't expect everyone to know who I am.
I beg to differ on Ethenal and Nikki...
This thread is a pile of shit?
[img]http://img244.imageshack.us/img244/5618/apbeu1.jpg
[img]http://www.n00bstories.com/image.fetch.php?id=1141455709
And who ever said I was on top of the mountain? Where did I ever say I was at the top of the mountain? What makes you think I am at the top of the mountain?
|
First impressions. You've got a remarkably snide attitude from what I've seen despite the fact I haven't been paying attention to this much.
yeah
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363765 is a reply to message #363762] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 14:55 |
 |
Ethenal
Messages: 2532
Registered: January 2007
Location: US of A
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 15:50 |
| u6795 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:41 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:32 |
Well I don't know how secret this is so I don't want to spill the beans, but go ask Crimson about what Khold, xptek, null, Lee, and a few others worked on for quite a while.
EDIT: Nikki and Eth and whoever the fuck the other guy is, please take your shenanigans to another thread.
EDIT2:
| Cabal8616 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 06:15 |
Now let's be real here for a second. Have you ever wondered why less and less people join the Renegade community? Maybe, just MAYBE, it's the attitude some of the "oldbies" here take- "You weren't here, therefore, you are not welcome" is the general feel that seems to be given off.
|
It's the new people like these 3 idiots who posted above me (Ethenal, Nikki, and whoever the fuck fobby is)
|
Whoever the fuck Fobby is? I bet if you asked around here more people would recognize his name quicker than yours. You may be an oldbie but for christ sake learn about a person before you insult them. Fobby contributes so much more to this community than most of the people in this thread combined. Stop being such a prick.
Nikki is a good guy too and despite his join date being after yours (HOLY SHIT NEWFAG WTF BBQ) I think a lot of people have very high respect for him. Ethenal as well.
I think the thing is they (among many others) realize this thread is a pile of shit that means nothing to mostly everyone. You've missed a lot, but PLECOS is basically Renegade forums self moderation.
Shit changes when you don't check a forum for a million years or whatever you've been busy doing that supersedes the Renegade community. Don't expect to be on top of the mountain the moment you come back.
|
Sorry, I don't keep up with every single person here. And no, I don't expect everyone to know who I am.
I beg to differ on Ethenal and Nikki...
This thread is a pile of shit?
And who ever said I was on top of the mountain? Where did I ever say I was at the top of the mountain? What makes you think I am at the top of the mountain?
|
...They made a WOL clone? Gee, who the fuck ever did that!
| -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29 |
Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363771 is a reply to message #363770] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 15:21 |
|
Ethenal
Messages: 2532
Registered: January 2007
Location: US of A
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:18 |
| Ethenal wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:55 |
...They made a WOL clone? Gee, who the fuck ever did that!
|
Notice how it says "Logging into Linkup"
Search Renforums for Linkup, I doubt you find a post about it. You'll have to ask somebody like Crimson about it. Maybe she will tell you what it was and why it's better than XWIS...
|
I saw that part, but me being inferior to you and not having been on Renforums and n00bstories as long as you have (though I was PLAYING Renegade from the beginning, just not participating in the drama), I have no idea what that means.
And no, it doesn't return a post. But FUDforum's search is a piece of shit anyway.
| -TLS-DJ-EYE-K wrote on Mon, 18 March 2013 07:29 |
Instead of showing us that u aren't more inteligent than a Toast, maybe you should start becomming good in renegade
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363774 is a reply to message #363771] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 15:32 |
|
havocide3
Messages: 110
Registered: June 2003
Karma: 0
|
Recruit |
|
|
| Ethenal wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:21 |
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:18 |
| Ethenal wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 16:55 |
...They made a WOL clone? Gee, who the fuck ever did that!
|
Notice how it says "Logging into Linkup"
Search Renforums for Linkup, I doubt you find a post about it. You'll have to ask somebody like Crimson about it. Maybe she will tell you what it was and why it's better than XWIS...
|
I saw that part, but me being inferior to you and not having been on Renforums and n00bstories as long as you have (though I was PLAYING Renegade from the beginning, just not participating in the drama), I have no idea what that means.
And no, it doesn't return a post. But FUDforum's search is a piece of shit anyway.
|
There won't be any results no matter how you search for it. It was a web-based backend replacement for WOL, still had clan support, quickplay worked, the WOL helpbot was back online... too many improvements to list.
EDIT: I agree, FUDForum's search is a sack of shit
[Updated on: Thu, 18 December 2008 15:33] Report message to a moderator |
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363775 is a reply to message #363458] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 15:34 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
Fuck yeah! Plecos! This topic instantly went from shit to awesome!
And lol @ xwis clones.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| Re: luv2pb cares about the community. [message #363777 is a reply to message #363776] |
Thu, 18 December 2008 15:59 |
|
Dover
Messages: 2547
Registered: March 2006
Location: Monterey, California
Karma: 0
|
General (2 Stars) |
|
|
| havocide3 wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 14:41 |
| Dover wrote on Thu, 18 December 2008 17:34 |
Fuck yeah! Plecos! This topic instantly went from shit to awesome!
And lol @ xwis clones.
|
This would've superseded xwis had it been used.
|
It's the same story with all xwis clones. "This is better! This would've replaced xwis!" Could've, would've, should've, but didn't. The "why" is of minimal importance, which means the xwis clone is of minimal importance. You brought this up to show us why we should care about null, yet I'm left caring even less than I did before.
| DarkDemin wrote on Thu, 03 August 2006 19:19 |
Remember kids the internet is serious business.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Goto Forum:
Current Time: Sat May 11 20:45:06 MST 2024
Total time taken to generate the page: 0.01772 seconds
|
Search
Help
Members
Register
Login
Home
