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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347106 is a reply to message #347101] Sun, 17 August 2008 11:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 17 August 2008 20:12

Well, we won. Don't fix it, the community has had their say... In Love

The poll ain't over, is it?


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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347110 is a reply to message #347101] Sun, 17 August 2008 11:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Fix it, but not default.

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347111 is a reply to message #346646] Sun, 17 August 2008 11:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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45 people, and none of those people have brought up an argument as to why it shouldnt be fixed... Smile

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347120 is a reply to message #346646] Sun, 17 August 2008 12:09 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Surth, you're a complete fucking idiot

i listed TONS of reasons why it should be fixed, and most of all..
because this patch is fixing glitches, and the PT bug is a huge glitch/problem

TT has completly lost any support i had if they won't fix this shit,

fucking retarded, @ clanwars.cc theres only 2 -3 fucking idiots fighting to have this fixed, both of them are the idiots from clanwars.cc fighting here, have no ide awhat they're talking about

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347121 is a reply to message #346646] Sun, 17 August 2008 12:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Lol sorry I forgot a not, I meant to say that there is no reason NOT to fix it since its CLEARLY a bug and it will very probably help gameplay too.
Sorry karmai :S
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347129 is a reply to message #346646] Sun, 17 August 2008 12:59 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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A little misunderstanding on the internet is big stuff. Mad

It's just troop making new accounts to vote on this, so yeah.


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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347138 is a reply to message #346646] Sun, 17 August 2008 13:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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deerm,,,,,,,,lol. So goztow, I see why you never said when the poll would end. QUICK EVERY1 MAKES ACCOUNTS TO BET US11!!!! Wow goztow, now you can't just get fat with it and leave it open untill your side is winning, then close it. Watch, if this doesn't happen exactly as I have stated, I will personally paypal you $50.

Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347143 is a reply to message #347129] Sun, 17 August 2008 13:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sadukar09 wrote on Sun, 17 August 2008 12:59

A little misunderstanding on the internet is big stuff. Mad

It's just troop making new accounts to vote on this, so yeah.

i can agre with that first it votes to get fixed then out of no where it jumps lot of votes when it starts winning...
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347144 is a reply to message #346646] Sun, 17 August 2008 13:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You really are on strong stuff. I didn't make the poll and I don't decide when it closes.

And no need to send me daddies money, I make my own living fine enough. Waste it on other stuff.


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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347248 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 03:12 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I cannot see why people have posted it shouldn't be fixed.

They are apperently unaware that when it is fixed a server-owner can add pt's outside of the buildings. Which is in standard maps easy job and server-side!!! (for newmaps use level-re-edit)

So that would give the oppertunity for server owners to choose themselfs whetever or not they want pt's to the outside of the buildings.

Better than the solution to not fix it where every server will have the pt's to the outside buildings and there is no choice at all. So everyone can use the pt's as how they like them to be and the bug is gone then.
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347249 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 03:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347257 is a reply to message #347248] Mon, 18 August 2008 05:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Reaver11 wrote on Mon, 18 August 2008 05:12

I cannot see why people have posted it shouldn't be fixed.

They are apperently unaware that when it is fixed a server-owner can add pt's outside of the buildings. Which is in standard maps easy job and server-side!!! (for newmaps use level-re-edit)

So that would give the oppertunity for server owners to choose themselfs whetever or not they want pt's to the outside of the buildings.

Better than the solution to not fix it where every server will have the pt's to the outside buildings and there is no choice at all. So everyone can use the pt's as how they like them to be and the bug is gone then.



That's actually the silliest thing about this debate. The fix would only be for the stock Westwood-made maps, alongside other map fixes like adding missing spawn points and correcting badly placed zones.

There was never any question as to if we are going to fix outside purchase terminals. The whole purpose of this poll was to ascertain what people felt about the fix. Judging by people who actually posted their opinions about the matter, it's a welcomed fix.

I personally voted "Yes" because I believe that its imperative to ship a set of maps that is as bug-free as we can get them. However, we were always planning on creating a secondary set of maps that include all fixes sans this one. Server owners who believe that the outside purchase terminals are vital to gameplay could always install them.

Renegade is driving away new players in it's current "default" state. That's the whole reason behind this patch. We aren't making it to entertain our egos, we are simply making it because we love Renegade. In Love
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347260 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 07:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Uh, has anyone thought about ripping the ramp to the top of the Barracks out of Canyon? Either that, or stick a blocker there Razz so that we don't have any more nukes atop the Barracks (that nuke spot would be practically a guaranteed kill without rear PTs Sad and I'm afraid that's a little unbalanced towards Nod).

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347261 is a reply to message #347260] Mon, 18 August 2008 07:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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=HT=T-Bird wrote on Mon, 18 August 2008 16:16

Uh, has anyone thought about ripping the ramp to the top of the Barracks out of Canyon? Either that, or stick a blocker there Razz so that we don't have any more nukes atop the Barracks (that nuke spot would be practically a guaranteed kill without rear PTs Sad and I'm afraid that's a little unbalanced towards Nod).

All it takes is 6 mines, though Wink.


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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347262 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 07:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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those 6 mines can easily be wall hugged on top of barracks...

oh is that getting fixed?


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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347271 is a reply to message #347138] Mon, 18 August 2008 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trooprm02 wrote on Sun, 17 August 2008 15:24

Goztow will leave it open untill the fix it side is winning, then close it. Watch, if this doesn't happen exactly as I have stated, I will personally paypal him $50.


Lets just see....


Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347292 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 11:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What part of "I didn't start this poll" did u miss again?

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347370 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 19:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I didn't know that there was a law things had to be done in one patch and this is our only chance.

Obviously it's not a clear majority. Don't fix it for this patch. Worry about the glitches most don't know about but many are still taking advantage of. Get a baseline and build ontop of it.

BTW, I voted for don't fix it. I'm suggesting this be brought back and revoted on after this first patch. I'm not trying to force my preference on whether or not the change actually takes affect. I think it should be postponed.


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troops a fucking dumbass i always laugh when i read his post

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347379 is a reply to message #347370] Mon, 18 August 2008 20:23 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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genetix wrote on Mon, 18 August 2008 21:46

I didn't know that there was a law things had to be done in one patch and this is our only chance.

Obviously it's not a clear majority. Don't fix it for this patch. Worry about the glitches most don't know about but many are still taking advantage of. Get a baseline and build ontop of it.

BTW, I voted for don't fix it. I'm suggesting this be brought back and revoted on after this first patch. I'm not trying to force my preference on whether or not the change actually takes affect. I think it should be postponed.


We never said if it was going to be for this patch or for a (possible) future patch...
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347393 is a reply to message #346646] Mon, 18 August 2008 21:57 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nunega i feel like i lose brain cells reading your posts
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347422 is a reply to message #346646] Tue, 19 August 2008 02:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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mac wrote on Thu, 14 August 2008 03:31

Note that there will be either a "unfixpt" or a "fixpt" seperate patch available to keep everyone happy..


pointless if u make 2 versions, but i prefert not fixed

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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347428 is a reply to message #347393] Tue, 19 August 2008 03:27 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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karmai wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 06:57

nunega i feel like i lose brain cells reading your posts

LOL


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Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347436 is a reply to message #347422] Tue, 19 August 2008 05:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Stonekirby wrote on Tue, 19 August 2008 04:32

mac wrote on Thu, 14 August 2008 03:31

Note that there will be either a "unfixpt" or a "fixpt" seperate patch available to keep everyone happy..


pointless if u make 2 versions, but i prefert not fixed


This is the problem with all of you people arguing of not wanting something to change. The TT team can just make the change and say 'fuck you' to leaving it the same (to the fixed version). No, they are not doing that though. They are nice enough to make 2 'versions' to make all your complainers happy and this is the treatment you give them? Grow up. At least they are making both sides happy and you are just being difficult.
Re: Fix outside PTs? [message #347442 is a reply to message #346646] Tue, 19 August 2008 05:49 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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am i arguing ? no im not i dont even care about that fix.

i just want to know whats the point when some ppl cant acces pts from outside and others can ?? seriuosly i cant see it
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