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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346798 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 15 August 2008 06:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Wasn't he banned anyways for this bullshit?

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346804 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 15 August 2008 06:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I think it's strange that u guys only look at it trough the eyes of gdi.

Try to also look in the eyes of nod, when u nuke the back of the barr with a sbh (1400 creds), don't u want it to succeed? When u fail because of the person refilling on the back of barr, don't u ever think: 'n00b refiller' or 'i wish that that pt bug thingy was fixed'? I know i do.

I use the pt on the outside allot, i prefer using the outside then taking a walk to the inside, but when TT is thinking about fixing it: why not?
The auto-downloader will make it so that server who doesn't like this fix will mod the maps and will just put pt's on the outside of buildings. With this in mind, why discuss it?

Now for the pointfix: I have started playing renegade without this.
I only discovered it a few months ago while playing on thekoss2/blackintel servers and i learned to play with it.
It is strange in the beginning, but u will get used to it.
Again i will use the same argument as above: why discuss it when TT decided they will release a pointunfix if to many people complain?

Personally i like to see many bugs taken out, the more the better.

My 2 cents into this.
Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346825 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 15 August 2008 09:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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^ read the topic, i've been saying that the PT glitch is only an advantage for gdi for pages now.

Nod doesnt have nearly as many PT's that are acessable frmo the outside.. plus the only building that has PT's on the outside for nod (the strip) is so small theres really not much of a point
Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346829 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 15 August 2008 09:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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air outside pt really helps with beacons on ref or people trying to wall hop on field.



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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346840 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 15 August 2008 11:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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n ions at field.
Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346886 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 15 August 2008 17:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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nod air pt on complex when strip is blocked..its an even "advantage" if anything..

Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346938 is a reply to message #345981] Sat, 16 August 2008 06:34 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1 map advantage for disadvantage for almost every map? LOL.

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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS


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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346978 is a reply to message #345981] Sat, 16 August 2008 13:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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if your saying my example (islands) is the only example of were it is even for Nod...then im pretty sure you have never installed renegade, let alone played it...

Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #346980 is a reply to message #346978] Sat, 16 August 2008 13:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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trooprm02 wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 15:37

if your saying my example (islands) is the only example of were it is even for Nod...then im pretty sure you have never installed renegade, let alone played it...

sadukar09 wrote on Sat, 16 August 2008 08:34

1 map advantage for disadvantage for almost every map? LOL.

I'm afraid you failed your reading classes. Sad


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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS


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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #347119 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 17 August 2008 12:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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lmao stfu troopm, i listed tons of examples here, jelly server, and clanwars why this glitch is a huge adavantage for the already overpowered gdi, i even said theres 1 or 2 maps/sitations where Nod can ever use an outside PT to their advantage
Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #347133 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 17 August 2008 13:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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1 or 2? wow.....and your telling me to stfu? HAR HAR

Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #347509 is a reply to message #345981] Tue, 19 August 2008 16:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #347853 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 22 August 2008 00:55 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This is a pretty simple solution. I need maps with PT bug fixed to run on n00bstories for several weeks. After which time, we can decide if the fix was good or bad. If there is one or two PTs that just need to be accessible from the outside and tactics have not been created to sufficiently counter, then we can add PTs to those specific locations.

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #347854 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 22 August 2008 00:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I can't even see the logic in letting terminals be accessible from outside. How can fixing an obvious, glaring error be something that's either good or bad? Fix it!
Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #347863 is a reply to message #345981] Fri, 22 August 2008 05:18 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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This topic should be locked cuz it makes no sense (the title that is)
The pt from outside is advantage BUT it has to be fixed because clearly it's a bug. There is nothing outside that would show that the pt can be accesed just the pt zone that is invisible. So try to fix it anyway
Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348774 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 31 August 2008 03:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348806 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 31 August 2008 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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IMO

Whats needs fixing:
PT Bug (when re-joining the game after a dis-con or kick)
Losing all money when committing suicide
Ramjets shooting tanks and getting stupid points. This is serious, because shooting tanks all game with jet gets people on MVP 80% of the time.

The whole create a new user thing after XWIS took over from WW. Its not obvious what needs to be done to create an account for the fresh newbie. Because assuming the newbie has a brain, he would click 'create new account' etc, not just type a username and password. Beleive it or not but this may have prevented 1000's of people from ever trying the game out.

Serious lack of maps and fan map servers. This should be encouraged, I beleive it will pull more gamers back, not everyone is content with playing Complex, field, under etc forever. Automatic map downloads should be given a higher priority than it is

Mixed feelings
Shooting tanks with Apc's and getting points, I dont think this is a priority. I do it sometimes to make money if i'm strapped for cash. Of course, its unfair to do it purely to get more points.

Accessing PT from outside building. Yes its a bug, but its also annoying to have to run ALL the way into the building when you are on the other side. I see it as a convienience rather that a bug that urgently needs to be fixed.

General comments
I'm still anxious about patch becuase its a lot of changes at once. Might be an idea to release CP3.1 fixing important stuff and then all the other bits can be rolled out in CP3.2.

Take me seriously or not, I may have a relatvly new account on this forum but I've bin in CnC picture for a long time and I understand the implications patches cause. As this patch is for non-commercial gain, I have very mixed feelings, especially with the rapidly shrinking user base.

Its a risk of whether it will drive people away or bring people in.

personally I can play next gen games if I want (xbox, ps3 etc) but I've come to the age where I really cant be bothered to learn how to play a high depth game again. Renegade suits me becuase I dont have to learn new things (Though i like playing new maps)

So to conclude
If you really bothered to read all that , well done, I was just typing and didint realise how much i had to say Smile

Peace


ps: these bugs have existed for years, it is not urgently required to fix them, one thing at a time would be good. Gradual fixes rather than one risky patch that fixes everything.

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348815 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 31 August 2008 11:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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I thought commiting suicide was supposed to deplete your money and I support that to prevent abuse.

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348819 is a reply to message #348815] Sun, 31 August 2008 12:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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don't even think about removing the money-depleting aspect of suicide.

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348828 is a reply to message #347854] Sun, 31 August 2008 14:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 22 August 2008 03:58

I can't even see the logic in letting terminals be accessible from outside. How can fixing an obvious, glaring error be something that's either good or bad? Fix it!

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If half points fix isn't a good compromise neither is adding pts. Fix it all or fix nothing tbh.

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348841 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 31 August 2008 16:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You missed the general point I made and instead just pick the one aspect you disagree with (suicide) which makes up less than 1% of the content of the post and forget everything else.

Are you actually programmers/modders? Or are you just gamers trying to be Crimson's lap dogs?

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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348862 is a reply to message #348841] Sun, 31 August 2008 20:56 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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kannies wrote on Sun, 31 August 2008 18:37

You missed the general point I made and instead just pick the one aspect you disagree with (suicide) which makes up less than 1% of the content of the post and forget everything else.


What, you want them to address all of your thoughts? Maybe they agree or simply don't mind either way. Besides, they're right. Leave suicide the way it is. If you want to keep your money, don't suicide. If you want to get in your base quickly, it's going to cost you.


Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348875 is a reply to message #345981] Sun, 31 August 2008 22:26 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i disagreed with his opinion on suiciding but the rest of what he had to say generally made sense
he's right though, you're focusing on the one thing he said that didn't make sense and ignoring all the good points he made


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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348885 is a reply to message #348875] Mon, 01 September 2008 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well, I'm no modder (ex-mapper) or a "lapdog" but when you put something like that under "What Needs Fixing" and its a known part of the gameplay fairness checks, you are going to get responses like this. I didn't focus on the rest of that section because look at these forums, its not like most of the other points haven't been discussed yet.

Btw, if you want other points to that post, APC's shoot armor piercing rounds do they not? They do some damage, but a hell of a lot more than sniper rounds. I would not bother to call that a bug or question it's cheapness either.


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Re: Quit fixing stuff that no one wants you to fix [message #348890 is a reply to message #345981] Mon, 01 September 2008 04:34 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
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Putting suicide without taking away money and/or items will lead to people going down to/within 10% health, not giving another person (team) the point / credit for a kill and it will be abused, garanteed. Suicide is ok the way it is (Bye money, Bye items associated with you). Get someone to !kill you, or c4 yourself if you are stuck.
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