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Re: Critize the Candidates [message #347595 is a reply to message #345198] Wed, 20 August 2008 09:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
cheesesoda is currently offline  cheesesoda
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Because they know how corrupt government can be, and how eager they are to take away our rights.

As for the "general welfare" clause, I consider that to exist when it benefits EVERYBODY.. at least, tax payers. Government funding where only a small portion of the nation benefits from what I pay for isn't the "general welfare", especially if certain government initiatives (ie. minimum wage and fiat money) only helps to create inflation and other economic problems which we can all agree only serve as a detriment to society rather than a helping hand.

A government that serves best, serves least.


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Re: Critize the Candidates [message #347616 is a reply to message #347595] Wed, 20 August 2008 12:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Ryan3k is currently offline  Ryan3k
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Oh, I agree with that. I'm more or less playing the Devil's Advocate here because I just think it's unfair to say CANDIDATES X, Y, AND Z DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONSTITUTION when it's clear that its a document that has different avenues of interpretation. Some take a literal approach, others see it as a "living" document, so to speak.

Re: Critize the Candidates [message #347619 is a reply to message #345198] Wed, 20 August 2008 12:11 Go to previous message
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I hate the "living Constitution" approach. It's just like Christians deciding what they want to believe out of the Bible. "I think homosexuality is wrong, but so is stoning disobedient children." As Ron Paul wrote, once the Constitution becomes a living document, it might as well be nothing more than a blank sheet of paper.

As for the whole FISA thing, I have absolutely no problem with the government gathering information about suspects and tracking them... as long as they obtain a warrant for it. FISA is clearly a violation of our 4th amendment rights.

As far as saying that they don't know the Constitution, you're probably right. I'm sure they do. It's just that they're pandering to idiots who DON'T know the Constitution. Throw that in with their inability to accept responsibility for themselves, and we have a big, totalitarian government.


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