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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336482 is a reply to message #336382] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 15:53   |
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EA already has a history of using fan-made patches when the community supports it and the patch itself is rock-solid. In fact, higher standards than their own patches have to fulfill.
We don't intend to split up the community with this patch. That's why I have always been (silently) opposed to certain projects where a team is trying to re-make Renegade in another engine with the futile hope that everyone will abandon the old one.
As I said before, we are learning from our old mistakes (such as those we made with RenGuard's release) and trying to do it much better this time around now that we are armed with boatloads more experience and knowledge.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336512 is a reply to message #336382] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 16:48 |
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To answer Cavemans question, the anticheat consists of several parts. Part of it is improved (because we can also make clientside changes) BIATCH/RR code. Besides that theres a few extra things that weren't possible to do on the server side only.
I won't go deep into it now since its not all finished yet (although alot is finished though) so things might still change.
And WTF is this about?:
| DrasticDR wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 01:02 |
Thank fuck you didn't get your hands on the source code.
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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336514 is a reply to message #336452] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 16:55 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 16:41 |
luv2pb, I hope that this patch will be backwards compatible with the normal Renegade. What I mean is that both people with and without the patch should be able to join a server but only people with the patch get the new fixes. A
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that would actually make this whole idea fail. Look at the current state of renguard, CP1, CP2 and scripts.dll .. there is no mandatory level aside from the renegade patch from westwoods ftp. ( Renegade_1037_English.exe )
For these patches, fixes, anticheats to be a success a mandatory, forced upgrade to play in the online games is a must. Otherwise servers will lack players, multiple versions of updates, lack of forced anticheat, and so many other issues like map autodownloader.
This is why they need the community behind them, so EA takes notice and agrees to release it as an official, forced patch much like the Renegade 1037 update. If this happens, renegade would finally be at a level playing field in all of the servers when it comes to fixes and anticheats.
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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336522 is a reply to message #336520] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 17:25 |
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| BlueThen wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 20:23 |
| Speedy059 wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 18:46 |
And add my serial stealer script .dll to it as well.....
BTW, does this little group have a website?
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I think he meant a separate site like how RenGuard does.
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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336536 is a reply to message #336382] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 17:43 |
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I'm sure most of you would agree that a public source code release would spell the end of Renegade and I would rather see no one get the source code if it meant it would be easily accessible.
I'm the bawss.
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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336541 is a reply to message #336382] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 17:53 |
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We don't intend to split up the community with this patch. That's why I have always been (silently) opposed to certain projects where a team is trying to re-make Renegade in another engine with the futile hope that everyone will abandon the old one.
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No idea how you can back this notion, as I've never said any of this, and as it is clearly an attack on Renegade X.
The reality is, I'm a Renegade person first, UT3 person second. I support TT and look forward with what you guys will be doing with Core Patch 3. Don't forget that I've been in the Renegade community just as long as you have (been playing since the demo), and have worked on more W3D projects than most modders in this community.
Criticize all you want, Renegade X has never ever wanted everyone to abandon W3D. On the contrary, we released some model replacements for C&C Renegade, and have a surprise coming up that will benefit the C&C Renegade community specifically. We are merely an exonerated mod that wants to bring C&C mode to more people who have never even heard of it. You know just as well as I do that no mod and no game will kill Renegade on W3D anytime soon.
Hope you understand.
Unreal Tournament 3 Total Conversion to C&C: Renegade
Check out Renegade X Today!
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| Re: Introducing Tiberian Technologies! [message #336548 is a reply to message #336478] |
Sat, 21 June 2008 18:13 |
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| Goztow wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 18:27 |
| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Sun, 22 June 2008 00:02 |
| Clown wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 23:53 |
| Goztow wrote on Sat, 21 June 2008 17:41 |
luv2pb, I hope that this patch will be backwards compatible with the normal Renegade. What I mean is that both people with and without the patch should be able to join a server but only people with the patch get the new fixes. A bit like RR is now, so I do think it is possible  .
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I disagree. I think the best way for this to work is not allowing the player to connect to XWIS without the patch, and for that we need EA to support us officially.
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If all goes well this would be send to EVERYONE playing renegade. Or at the least, all XWIS players.
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What Luv2 and me mean is that during beta stage, you'll have players with and without this patch.
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From what I know from Crim and from reading all this it isn't backwards compatible. So I'm back to my original question. How are you going to get the full support you need from the community for EA to support this?
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