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| Spoony wrote on Fri, 16 May 2008 23:50 |
And yet you've just very helpfully proved me right. Thanks.
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I lol'd heartily, because you're proving TD's point further. You suddenly know which parts I was talking about, eh? Guess your telepathy knows no bounds. Oh wait, that's not telepathy! That's just you pretending to understand everyone.
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No, pointing out you didn't read the thread - when you admit that indeed you didn't - doesn't prove anything about me, sorry. I know you're angry at being wrong, but it's just a renedebate, you don't have to be as desperate not to lose it as TD continually proves himself to be.
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I lol'd quite a bit. Once again, you're a telepath, aren'tya? Wait, nope, just a hypocrite. This one pretty much speaks for itself.
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Do you even know what a straw-man argument is? If you do, which doesn't seem very likely, would you care to find an example of me using it in a situation where it doesn't apply?
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Yes, I do. Obviously I was using it as an example of the many things you repeat that no one really cares about because it's the internet, proving once again, you're a hypocrite.
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finally, I'll just repeat something I said before
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I don't think you've read this thread very carefully, because if you had you'd have noticed that TD could not refute a single thing I've said, whereas almost everything TD said has been conclusively debunked as a pack of lies, forcing him to continually change the subject out of desperation not to admit he lost a renedebate.
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I always lol @ you going "SEE?! HE COULDN'T REFUTE EVERYTHING I SAID BUT I REFUTED EVERYTHING THEY SAID SO I WIN". That's basically the basis of every single arguement you make, which is quite lulzy to be honest.
Especially when they, y'know, prove you wrong on shit and whatnot. But hey, let's ignore that and continue to be an arrogent asshole with a stick up their ass.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #330860 is a reply to message #330474] |
Sat, 17 May 2008 09:31 |
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Lmao, so Cabal is yet another angry person to have a debate with you, Spoony?
@Cabal, that 'proving Spoony wrong' thing -> He locks topics most of the time when someone makes a good point. He also debates ABOUT me (also lying about what I supposedly did) while I am suspended by him, so I couldn't post proof nor talk back. If anyone else posted THAT proof for me, they'd get suspended as well for TALKING for me.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #330867 is a reply to message #330474] |
Sat, 17 May 2008 11:39 |
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Planting beacons on deactivated pedestals makes you automatically win too.
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| Aircraftkiller wrote on Fri, 10 January 2014 16:56 |
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #330894 is a reply to message #330474] |
Sat, 17 May 2008 14:14 |
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331001 is a reply to message #330851] |
Sun, 18 May 2008 08:54 |
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TD's proving how dishonest he is yet again.
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@Cabal, that 'proving Spoony wrong' thing -> He locks topics most of the time when someone makes a good point.
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You're presumably talking about the ONE thread I locked, in which Surth was wrong over and over and over again, demonstrably so?
This implies that it was locked "because" (not when) someone makes a good point, because I couldn't think of an answer but didn't want to admit I was wrong, etc. Go check the thread again. I did answer everything Surth said, and he was downright wrong about most of it.
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(also lying about what I supposedly did)
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Sorry, but just becuase you've been caught lying over and over and over again doesn't mean I did too.
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He also debates ABOUT me while I am suspended by him, so I couldn't post proof nor talk back.
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Again, this is misleading. Surth (and simpee) started asking why you were suspended, so I answered. Quite simple really
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If anyone else posted THAT proof for me, they'd get suspended as well for TALKING for me.
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You mean to say "if someone posted on my behalf, they'd be suspended because it's a clear violation of forum rules, rules which you yourself have broken". That's the truth of it; you're just wrapping it up in conspiracy-theorist just-because-you-can't-handle-the-truth nonsense.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 08:40 |
I lol'd heartily, because you're proving TD's point further. You suddenly know which parts I was talking about, eh? Guess your telepathy knows no bounds. Oh wait, that's not telepathy! That's just you pretending to understand everyone.
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sigh... like talking to an idiot.
I pointed out the fact you clearly haven't read and understood the thread. You then ADMIT IT. This isn't telepathy, this isn't "spoony pretending to understand everyone", it's me making an educated guess based on the stupidity of your statement, BEING RIGHT, and you being pissed off at that for some reason.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 08:40 |
I lol'd quite a bit. Once again, you're a telepath, aren'tya? Wait, nope, just a hypocrite. This one pretty much speaks for itself.
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You're right about one part - it does speak for itself. see above, re: educated guess and you being angry at the fact it was correct
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 08:40 |
Yes, I do. Obviously I was using it as an example of the many things you repeat that no one really cares about because it's the internet, proving once again, you're a hypocrite.
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How am I a hypocrite for saying someone keeps using straw-man arguments when they are, in fact, using straw-man arguments? I think you're so desperately trying to flame me that you've lost your ability to think in a straight line.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 08:40 |
I always lol @ you going "SEE?! HE COULDN'T REFUTE EVERYTHING I SAID BUT I REFUTED EVERYTHING THEY SAID SO I WIN". That's basically the basis of every single arguement you make, which is quite lulzy to be honest.
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Yet it's an absolutely 100% accurate summation of this thread. Had you done something as radical and mouldbreaking as, oh I dunno, reading the whole thing, you'd have realised that.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 08:40 |
Especially when they, y'know, prove you wrong on shit and whatnot. But hey, let's ignore that
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Ignore what? When did this happen? TD has dodged the fact he's been proven wrong over and over and over again. He's dodged the fact he's been caught lying over and over and over again. You yourself have ignored it too, so you're the hypocrite here, not me.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sat, 17 May 2008 08:40 |
and continue to be an arrogent asshole with a stick up their ass.
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OK. When someone like TD tries as phenomenally hard to start renedrama as he's done here, on three different forums AND a community match, all out of anger at a tournament disqualification (yes TD, I said the word "anger", and that's your cue to make another fifty uberdefensive posts trying to prove otherwise, so please don't disappoint), then yes, I probably am going to point out why they're an idiot. What you fail to realise is doing so ^^ doesn't make me "arrogent", nor an "asshole", nor does it prove anything about me at all.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331004 is a reply to message #330474] |
Sun, 18 May 2008 09:18 |
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TD's proving how dishonest he is yet again.
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Here we go again, shut the fuck up.
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You're presumably talking about the ONE thread I locked, in which Surth was wrong over and over and over again, demonstrably so?.
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And again, you've proven someone wrong over and over again. Ironic how you are always the one to prove others wrong in a debate, yet all you do is repeat that as an argument every single time.
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Sorry, but just becuase you've been caught lying over and over and over again doesn't mean I did too.
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You are repeating this over and over and over again, without having something useful to say.
You lied about me supposedly BEGGING YOU to revert your decision. Not only once too, at several places and times. Surth asked you for proof, and you said it was in private on jelly and smak. I got proof that in neither of those 2 PM's I asked for an undo of your decision. You are the fucking liar here, just because you say I 'lie EVERYTIME' doesn't mean YOU shouldn't be lying? You are the one with the stupid arguments here.
The PM on Jelly:
"[17:22:51] <TD> !page Spoony Now I know you don't talk about the league here, but check your PM on smak when you can."
- You didn't reply to this, it was just a notification for the following PM.
The PM on SMAK:
Click for screenshot
- And you are saying I BEGGED you for an undo of the Disqualification OVER AND OVER? Now who is the liar here? Now don't start telling people you misinterpret my PM since that would just be too easy. You started telling people that after you suspended me, so I couldn't post this proof.
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Ignore what? When did this happen? TD has dodged the fact he's been proven wrong over and over and over again. He's dodged the fact he's been caught lying over and over and over again. You yourself have ignored it too, so you're the hypocrite here, not me.
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Just look up and try to think of how many people are laughing at your pathetic attempts to argue over something you've already lost in the beginning. Tip: Use your telepathy. Faggot.
Now let me be Spoony real quick: "You, Spoony, are just very very angry and I have proven you wrong over and over again (see my other posts) that you are lying to the community. If you tell me that I am angry I will just deny it, but if YOU deny it, then that means that you're angry over the fact that I said you're angry."
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331007 is a reply to message #331004] |
Sun, 18 May 2008 09:42 |
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| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
Here we go again, shut the fuck up.
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You first chief, you started all of this crap, you took it to three different forums and a community match.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
And again, you've proven someone wrong over and over again. Ironic how you are always the one to prove others wrong in a debate
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I don't see what's ironic about it.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
yet all you do is repeat that as an argument every single time.
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You're lying again.
Since we're talking about the Surth thread here, let's check the thread.
http://24.239.220.58/smak/ubb/cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=33;t=010458
If you read each of my posts in that thread, any objective person can easily see you're lying again.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
And you are saying I BEGGED you for an undo of the Disqualification [b]OVER AND OVER?
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No. You said the same lie in the Jelly privates forums and you were corrected there too. It doesn't surprise me that you ignored that and simply repeated the thing you were wrong about in the first place.
Here we go again:
I didn't say you begged for the decision to be reversed "over and over". I said you CRIED about it over and over, and that's indisputable. I didn't even respond to the majority of your whingeing posts at all.
I did use the word "begging" in relation to your PM, and perhaps that was the wrong word to use. Considering how many posts you were making crying about it on Smak, and considering you tried to take your feeble revenge in a community match almost immediately after I refused to budge in the decision, it's a fairly understandable conclusion.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
You started telling people that after you suspended me, so I couldn't post this proof.
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I've already pointed out what garbage this is. The reason I said so was because I was answering somebody's question. You were indeed suspended at the time, but you're trying to make it look like the only reason I said it is BECAUSE you were suspended, which shows just how desperate you are.
Now, let's talk about something else. Look how desperate you are to prove I supposedly lied about something. You have been CONCLUSIVELY CAUGHT LYING OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, and you haven't addressed a single bit of it.
That would make you a hypocrite.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
Just look up and try to think of how many people are laughing at your pathetic attempts to argue over something you've already lost in the beginning.
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Yet everything I said turned out to be true, and most of what you said turned out to be lies, and you keep ignoring these facts. You know it and you can't refute any of it, but you'd rather die than admit you lost an argument, which is why you keep making post after post after post on multiple forums feebly trying to prove you aren't angry, when I've already pointed out that nobody even cares whether you're angry or not.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
Tip: Use your telepathy. Faggot.
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Fresh air, get some
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
Now let me be Spoony real quick: "You, Spoony, are just very very angry and I have proven you wrong over and over again (see my other posts) that you are lying to the community.
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Yet I HAVE proven you lied to the community OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. By making statements like this, you're showing everyone you can't refute them.
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
If you tell me that I am angry I will just deny it, but if YOU deny it, then that means that you're angry over the fact that I said you're angry."
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If I can make a slight correction here. When you claimed *I* was angry, which you've done multiple times, it doesn't bother me enough to deny it. When I claimed YOU were angry, you've made... well, must be nearly fifty posts now, on multiple forums, because the idea of someone on the other side of the world thinking you might be angry is a very chilling thought, apparently. I've already asked you why it's so important to you whether anybody you've never met thinks you're angry or not, because it's a complete puzzler to me.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331022 is a reply to message #330474] |
Sun, 18 May 2008 11:14 |
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Clanwars is really fucked up.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331026 is a reply to message #331017] |
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| Surth wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 13:56 |
| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 11:42 |
| TD wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 12:18 |
And you are saying I BEGGED you for an undo of the Disqualification [b]OVER AND OVER?
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I didn't say you begged for the decision to be reversed "over and over".
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also, it's plainly obvious simpee and TD needed a break from the forums... look how many posts you both made crying about the decision, TD begging me to reverse it etc. compare that to the one post I made announcing the disqualification, and you call *me* the upset one?
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Thanks for supporting my statement, Surth. Like I said, I did indeed say he and simpee cried about the decision over and over, which is true, but I didn't say "he begged for the decisions to be overturned over and over".
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You still keep trying, but at least I know that the people here see the truth about you, which is enough for me.
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Ignoring the fact you can't think of a response again, and ignoring the fact you're dodging the fact you just got caught lying to everyone again, what "truth" is that?
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331027 is a reply to message #331022] |
Sun, 18 May 2008 11:52 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 13:14 |
Clanwars is really fucked up.
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I respectfully ask you not let a small minority represent the community and site as a whole, especially those ones who happen to be suspended from its forums and DQ'd from its tournaments. If there's any better official indicator of who ISN'T a worthy representative of the community, it would surely have to be that.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331030 is a reply to message #331027] |
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| Spoony wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 13:52 |
I respectfully ask you not let a small minority represent the community and site as a whole, especially those ones who happen to be suspended from its forums and DQ'd from its tournaments. If there's any better official indicator of who ISN'T a worthy representative of the community, it would surely have to be that.
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Two respected members of cw.cc and the ren-community battling it out on stuff like this tells me that there are some real problems. I get the impression there are other things at play here, too.
But that's just me.
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| Re: Spoony vs TD [message #331033 is a reply to message #331030] |
Sun, 18 May 2008 12:05 |
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| nikki6ixx wrote on Sun, 18 May 2008 13:57 |
Two respected members of cw.cc and the ren-community battling it out on stuff like this tells me that there are some real problems. I get the impression there are other things at play here, too.
But that's just me.
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Then I'll fill you in.
I'm hosting a 1v1 Field tournament, with prizes from EA. TD was a participant.
TD and simpee impersonated two other participants and meticulously created fake game results, and posted them as though they were real. I DQ'd them for this.
(I made a grand total of one post announcing the DQ. That's all. It wasn't even the main content of the post.)
TD and simpee complained about it OVER AND OVER AGAIN. I didn't even reply to the majority of them, I'd already said all that needed to be said.
so, I'd dropped the subject right after I clicked the DQ button - TD kept bringing it up over and over again.
shortly after that, Clanwars.cc has a community match against Xphaze. You may know that I'm in charge of the Clanwars team in community matches, meaning it's up to me to pick the team, supervise for good behaviour, etc. TD apparently wants some revenge over being DQ'd so he tries to fuck it up, he lies to our opposition saying I'm not on the team (when the team was never his to pick in the first place), tries to get them to kick me, etc.
Even after he did that, what did I do in response?
NOTHING. I didn't ban him from anything, I didn't make a post saying how gay he was, I didn't announce that he'd be excluded from future community matches (which would be absolutely justified and is my right to do if I see fit)... I didn't do ANYTHING in response to his faggotry. You can be fairly sure Jelly would not be so lenient.
What happens next?
He carries on bitching and whining about the DQ. I eventually suspend him from the CW for a time, as a mix of all three of the above things - the tournament offence, the community match bullshit, and the fact he just can't stop whining about the disqualification (he even says I "ruined the tournament", which is basically a mix of stupidity and overblown self-importance)
Later there's a thread on renegadeforums.com which has nothing to do with CW or the tournament or the community match... just me replying to something JPNOD says. TD starts crying about the situation AGAIN, despite the fact that unlike him I did nothing wrong anyway, and he lies to everyone about what happened. I prove he's lying, he keeps changing the subject out of his insatiable desire not to admit he was wrong about something.
What do you know, he does exactly the same on Jelly forums too, in the same context - in other words, a thread which has nothing do to CW or the tournament or anything of the sort, is turned into a bitchfest by TD.
All I've done in response is point out the parts in which he's lied to everybody to try to get them on his side, point out how wrong big chunks of his "arguments" are, and let people know the truth of these matters. All we've had in return is TD changing the subject every time he's wrong or he's caught lying about something, and post after post after post desperately trying to prove how angry he isn't. As if anyone cares how angry he is, least of all me.
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