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Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 02:07 Go to next message
blackhole is currently offline  blackhole
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Hi.

Everytime i enter a server i get this message:

Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed?

now i asked around and stuff and most of them say its cheats or something but they are not sure.
well..i dont use cheats, never used cheats.


i want to know what it means
and if it can be fixed


Thanks

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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326895 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 02:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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It means renegade is trying to set your bandwidth lower then the server owner would want on his server. I assume you're using WOL. Goto the login screen and move your mouse to the left, goto option/settings and somewhere in there should be an option for your bandwidth. It probably says its on 56k. Change this to T1/Lan. This will stop the messages and stop you from getting weird lag.

CarrierII wrote

BLUEHTHEN YOU AR NOT JUST A BIG CHEATAS AND YOU THE BIG HEAD JUST YOU USE FLY H4X FUCK YOU BIG CHEATAS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD YOU WANT I WRAUGHT THIS YOUR CHEATZ IS BAD HEY IS 1 YEAR YOUR PROMESS A FLY HAX IN MULTIPLAYER AND IS DONT JUST TROOPRM02 I TELL IT ALL WHO REPLYER IN THIS FORUM YOU CHEATZ

Please don't make me type something like that again, not using puntuation is annoying.


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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326898 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 02:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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ok ill try that thanks
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326899 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 02:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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it worked

i changed it to t1/lan


Thanks.

Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326912 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 05:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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The main reason you get this message, if i believe correctly, is because it makes you lag to other players, making you a difficult target to hit.

It's not exactly cheating, per se, however could give you an unwanted advantage over other players, hence the restiction of not being able to go lower than that.
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326917 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 06:24 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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what is does is it will make players move more in straight lines for you than for others, therefore you gain an unfair advantage over them because for them you are moving in straight lines and therefore a lot easier to hit.

Therefore many servers will make the minimum bandwidth 128000


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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326926 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 08:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Well for me its like totally the opposite way

i experience that for them its like I'M walking in a straight line.

example:

on my screen im standing left.
on their screen im standing in the middle.

when i get killed my dead body then slides/warps
to the middle when i was actually standing on the left side

so its true what you said, but i think its actually not an unfair advantage for me, but it is for them.

Got a new comp.
Got a new router (300 N )
New graphics card

Not helps agaist the lag

Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326941 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 11:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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What's your connection speed?

Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326956 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i have a 300 N router.

At the link status it says

270 mbps

At this moment im in the nit snipe server
my ping is around the 215
my kbps is 11
my fps is 75

and i keep getting lag killed.
i've been getting lag killed 3 years now, and its frustrating

Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326957 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 13:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Try playing on European servers, like BlackIntel or KOSs2. They should give you a ping around 100 which could help.

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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326958 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 13:36 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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so thats the only way i can play ren without to much lag?

play in servers i never been in before?
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326960 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 13:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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in most snipe servers i get a ping of like 40/80

like goku/chichi snipe server

but still i the lagkilling doesnt stop.
still get lagkilled, no matter how low my ping iz


Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326989 is a reply to message #326892] Sun, 20 April 2008 16:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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tbh you will always get lag killed in ren no matter what you do to ur comp or connection.

Lag kill isn't just you lagging it can also be due to the guy who kills you lagging or even the server.


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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #326998 is a reply to message #326956] Sun, 20 April 2008 19:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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blackhole wrote on Sun, 20 April 2008 16:22

i have a 300 N router.

At the link status it says

270 mbps

At this moment im in the nit snipe server
my ping is around the 215
my kbps is 11
my fps is 75

and i keep getting lag killed.
i've been getting lag killed 3 years now, and its frustrating



If your kbps is 11 that's the problem.


Homey
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327008 is a reply to message #326998] Sun, 20 April 2008 23:30 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Homey wrote on Mon, 21 April 2008 04:53


If your kbps is 11 that's the problem.

Not necessarely. If you're in a snipe server with 4 players, 11 kbps is quite normal.

As for the serevrs "you never played in", I suggest you go there to test if it's any better. At least you'd know what the problem is.

Your problem could also be at your ISP, maybe it's overselling its capacity and you get a lot of packet loss. Or it could also be that you have an unsecured wireless network and neighbours are using it to download while you play. Or you have a brother that's using his computer to download on the same network while you're playing. Or maybe your router has a problem Or maybe...

There's a lot of things that could be wrong.


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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327055 is a reply to message #326892] Mon, 21 April 2008 09:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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also if you got spyware on your computer if would cause random lag/ping jumps/ fps drops. that was my biggest problem last time and untill i got rid of it it was lagging like hell.


Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327202 is a reply to message #327055] Tue, 22 April 2008 00:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Simple thing that might help out:
press F8,
then type "nur 30" <enter> (without the "")
That could help a bit, also, try playing on servers with NUR 30 on the serverside and in europe.
I know for a fact that the BlackIntel server and TheKOSs2 server have these settings, so you could have a look to see if the lag is less there. If it is, then apparently the server where you usually play on is either too far away (USA) or is badly configured.


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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327604 is a reply to message #326892] Thu, 24 April 2008 06:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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sorry that i haven't replied in a bit.

ill try the f8 nur30

and no i dont have spyware ;p
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327605 is a reply to message #326892] Thu, 24 April 2008 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i think to 2 major causes are that the servers are indeed far away

and the packet losses
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327893 is a reply to message #326892] Sat, 26 April 2008 05:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Ok

i tried the nur 30

it helps a bit, i still get lagkilled a little but not so much as before.

Nur 30 preents me from shifting and warping all over the place, witch means hitting/damaging people is easier now.
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #327894 is a reply to message #326892] Sat, 26 April 2008 06:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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You can't expect to get 0 lag kills. This is Renegade: everyone has a certain amount of lag.

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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #328088 is a reply to message #326892] Mon, 28 April 2008 02:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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i dont expect to get 0 lagkills.

but also dont expect each kill to be because of lag
Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #328268 is a reply to message #326892] Tue, 29 April 2008 10:38 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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Almost every kill is, I'm afraid. Sorry


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Re: Setting your bw below the default 56000 is not allowed? [message #329022 is a reply to message #326892] Mon, 05 May 2008 01:54 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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k thanks
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CarrierII wrote on Tue, 29 April 2008 19:38

Almost every kill is, I'm afraid. Sorry


I wouldn't really agree with that. but maybe that's just 'cause I never play any other FPS games online.


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