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| bisen11 wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 19:58 |
When you say things like "Religious people..." and "everyone else..." it sure sounds like you're speaking for everyone in that group. He never said anything like "most" or "some" or "the extremists", not even "the loudest group within". So I'd say that counts as saying all.
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Your being hypocritical. You just said that I never said anything like "most" or "some."
Then you go on to say that means I meant to say "all."
I didn't say all, and I didn't say most, I didn't specify any amount. I think that the group of people, not everyone, not some, but the group in general. I have no idea how many people think like that, therefore I left the actual count out.
I will never say all or none in such a way, especially when it relates to people's own morals.
If you still don't understand what I mean than here is an example.
We got 2 religious people. Both of the same religion however one is more strongly religious.
What I meant by that comment was the one who is so strongly religious that they are blinded to everything else, not the other guy.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319684 is a reply to message #319617] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 19:03 |
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Because our beliefs are NOT based in myths and illusions but in logic and objectivity?
Please don't make sensationalist false claims when you clearly have not made an effort to understand the philosophy behind Atheism. I thoroughly resent this false statement you made as it is the highest form of intellectual injustice that is targeted at Atheists and Agnostics today.
Yeah, because if we think we are the highest life forms, then we are automatically arrogant right?
FYI, the knowledge that we are the highest life form leads to humbleness and the highest level of responsibility as human beings rather than a feeling of arrogance as you falsely claim. Claims such as yours are the usual garbage thrown at Atheists by religious folks; the same self-righteous folks who claim the world is full of sinners in need of salvation (like as if there are no other problems to solve).
Also, I feel more responsible as an Agnostic than I ever was as a Christian. And I was a devout Christian at that. But I was indifferent; I saw the world as sinners and believers just as you do today. You can't go about solving the world's problems with that attitude. As an Agnostic, I see EVERONE as a human being and have a greater respect for human life, the world we live in, the environment that we must protect for future generations and the animal species that must be preserved. There is no place for "the earth is going to end" bull.
I feel disgusted when Bible thumpers get all excited and hyped up when Israel goes to war because apparently these are the "end-times."
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Wow, you are a blowhard.
Since when do people feel humble when they view themselves as superiors? The VAST MAJORITY of people with power are arrogant fucktards. Very few people are humbled by the power of which they hold.
The fact that you claim what I said is sensationalist is proof enough of your utter arrogance on the subject.
I realize that I omitted the question mark, but I thought it was clear that it was just a simple question on the flip side of what you were arguing. Thanks for blowing it out of proportion as if that's meant to be some attack. Who's being the sensationalist, now?
Just because you've come to regret your upbringing doesn't mean you're any more stable mentally than you were as a devout Christian. Ever think that you possibly hold the same arrogance as you did then? It sure looks like it to me. Then, perhaps, it's not the religion that made you arrogant. Maybe it's just you.
Oh, and don't ever think you can label me as a Bible thumper. Again, that just shows your blatant arrogance on the issue. Everybody who disagrees with you MUST be a Bible thumper because why else would people disagree. Right? Wrong. I'm a Theist, thank you very much. I don't believe in the Bible anymore, but that doesn't mean I'm going to start bashing Christians for believing what they do. You, for whatever fucked up reason (ie. arrogance), feel that it's your job to keep up your rebellion. Good job, you're certainly making Atheism and Agnosticism more attractive world views.
Oh, and again, you only need to look no further than yourself to see that your claim of humbleness is defeated.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319686 is a reply to message #319684] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 19:15 |
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| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
You know what pisses me off, starbuzz? You're bashing on many religions.
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Ever heard of a debate? I kept it as civil and toned-down as possible and would not consider this as bashing.
| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
You shouldn't call people idiots or retards or ignorant for being wrong, not that I'm saying that we're wrong. But you've said the word "ignorant" dozens of times now. I'd continue debate about religion with you, but stop acting like a 5 year old, and stop bashing on the Christian religion.
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I can't see how you can handle a heated debate.
| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
Practically everything you said made Christians and other religious people look like they're freakin gangsters running around and murdering people and using threats to make them believe whatever!
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Pulling accusations out of our ass are we? If what I am saying is making you look like shit, then I say you are not ready for this subforum.
| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
I'm ok if you try and convince us that Christianity is wrong, but insulting and bashing isn't going to make me change my mind.
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That's not true when for the whole time I have been here in the forums debating religion, you are good at seeing all my "convincing" as insulting and bashing.
| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
Go ahead, give me verses that'd "blow me away"
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Pissed off for no reason? I expected a cowardly reply from you like this. Thanks for proving me right.
NOTE: Your WHOLE post was a misguided rant with zero relevance to the topic.
| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 20:03 |
Since when do people feel humble when they view themselves as superiors? The VAST MAJORITY of people with power are arrogant fucktards. Very few people are humbled by the power of which they hold.
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Since when in time did Atheists view themselves as superior to anything? You need to do a lot of reading to understand the philosophy behind Atheism. Don't talk like you are an expert when you don't have the slightest clue. And also, Atheists hold no power whatsoever in their mere beliefs.
That said, the rest of your post is garbage.
And yes, calling me "arrogant" and referring to my upbringing and classifying this debate as my continued "rebellion" shows your total lack of judgment. It is certaintly a good way to blow off your steam. You guys do an excellent job of defending your beliefs: by name-calling and "e-screaming."
If I were here as a Chrisitan, I would have replied to all of Starbuzz's posts with my faith and the Bible...something some here are totally incapable of doing. 
| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 20:03 |
Oh, and don't ever think you can label me as a Bible thumper.
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If you cared to read my post, it is pretty clear I was referring to the Rapturists and the "End-Times" madmen as the Bible thumpers. Unless you are one like that, you were not being labeled that.
| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 20:03 |
Oh, and again, you only need to look no further than yourself to see that your claim of humbleness is defeated.
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An Atheist's humblenss is in context with other living beings. To say that I am not humble because I question and debate and argue is the most arrogant statement I ever heard. We have too many people in this world who shut up and sit tight afraid to voice their opinions.
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The fact that you think man is humbled by the idea that they are alone in the world as far as "supreme beings" go is funny. Religious people, as a whole, are just as humbled. There are plenty of VERY intelligent people that are Christians.
There are the annoying extremists and fundamentalists who make it a point to judge others, but that's not religion as a whole. Again, just because you're rebelling against the fundamentalism that you were brought up into doesn't mean you're any more humbled than religious people as a whole. More humbled than your parents? Possibly, but don't make me laugh by claiming that people are humbled by admitting to the idea that there's no god.
Stop calling me a Christian. It doesn't help your argument to lump me in with fundamentalists. It just shows that you're just throwing out random shit at me after getting pissy with my first paragraph or two.
Edit: Oh, you removed the part where you implied I was a Christian still. Good catch... though I made it obvious.
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| cheesesoda wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 21:50 |
Stop calling me a Christian. It doesn't help your argument to lump me in with fundamentalists. It just shows that you're just throwing out random shit at me after getting pissy with my first paragraph or two.
Edit: Oh, you removed the part where you implied I was a Christian still. Good catch... though I made it obvious.
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Ever heard of a typo fix? The post was edited way before you can claim this arrogantly. I only added in the last sentence.
And no, unlike you, I don't get emotionally stressed after reading something in an internet forum.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319704 is a reply to message #319686] |
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| Starbuzz wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 20:15 |
| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
You know what pisses me off, starbuzz? You're bashing on many religions.
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Ever heard of a debate? I kept it as civil and toned-down as possible and would not consider this as bashing.
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Look, reread your posts. Tell me how many times you called religious people stupid (ignorant), arrogant, or selfish. I mean, it's a bit hypocritic if you call people selfish, and then scream in these forums "I'M RIGHT! YOU'RE WRONG! YOU'RE STUPID!"
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| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
You shouldn't call people idiots or retards or ignorant for being wrong, not that I'm saying that we're wrong. But you've said the word "ignorant" dozens of times now. I'd continue debate about religion with you, but stop acting like a 5 year old, and stop bashing on the Christian religion.
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I can't see how you can handle a heated debate.
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Dude, I'm telling you to tone it down a little. Just because this internet forum, it isn't right to call people idiots just for believing in things you can't disprove.
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| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
Practically everything you said made Christians and other religious people look like they're freakin gangsters running around and murdering people and using threats to make them believe whatever!
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Pulling accusations out of our ass are we? If what I am saying is making you look like shit, then I say you are not ready for this subforum.
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I never said that you make me look bad. I'm saying you're criticizing religion in a negative way, without even considering the positive things it's done..
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| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
I'm ok if you try and convince us that Christianity is wrong, but insulting and bashing isn't going to make me change my mind.
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That's not true when for the whole time I have been here in the forums debating religion, you are good at seeing all my "convincing" as insulting and bashing.
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Again, reread your previous posts, and tell me how many times you called people "ignorant" and "arrogant" for believing in god.
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| Originally Blue wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 19:40 |
Go ahead, give me verses that'd "blow me away"
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Pissed off for no reason? I expected a cowardly reply from you like this. Thanks for proving me right.
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In what way was that reply cowardly? What am I being a coward of? Do you see me... hiding, or running, or avoiding any topics? No, I straight down told you to stop insulting religions, and use some logic for once.
Ironic how you tell me that I'm pulling accusions out of my ass, then you say that I'm pissed off for no reason. I have a very good reason to be pissed off.
Also, you offered verses that'd "blow me away." I still see no verses, just more insults.
This is a debate. Not a argument.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319709 is a reply to message #319704] |
Thu, 28 February 2008 20:49 |
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A debate is an argument. It ironic you say this is a debate and all you can manage to come up with to my posts is "OMG STOP INSULTS BASHING!$#@%^^"
*chuckles*
With all due respect, you are once again more interested in my choice of words and presentation instead of replying to the subject. So much for debate, huh?
Peace.
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| warranto wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 13:17 |
| Rocko wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 21:35 |
if people were not force-fed christianity from birth and didn't learn about it until their teen years or at least like until high school, I wonder if anyone would still be foolish enough to believe in that ridiculous shit.
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One example of someone was a "devout atheist"-turned-chrsitan who is well received in both the literary world and the philosophy world is C.S. Lewis.
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I don't find that the person who wrote a piece of shit like chronicles of narnia to be some super intellectual.
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| Rocko wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 21:44 |
| warranto wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 13:17 |
| Rocko wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 21:35 |
if people were not force-fed christianity from birth and didn't learn about it until their teen years or at least like until high school, I wonder if anyone would still be foolish enough to believe in that ridiculous shit.
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One example of someone was a "devout atheist"-turned-chrsitan who is well received in both the literary world and the philosophy world is C.S. Lewis.
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I don't find that the person who wrote a piece of shit like chronicles of narnia to be some super intellectual.
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That's because it's a novel, written about 50 years ago, so a guy could make money.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50 |
I say a personal fanning of the genitals would be awesome.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319801 is a reply to message #319798] |
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| Blazer wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 11:24 |
| Starbuzz wrote on Thu, 21 February 2008 22:34 |
It is such a wonderfully written story that transports you into another world where you can live in. That was the main attraction for me...a story where you will feel like you are there!
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ROFL
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50 |
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319802 is a reply to message #319788] |
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Warranto completely ignores current religious trends and brings up a few exceptional examples from ages past.
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A staunch atheist at the time, Strobel decided to use his journalism and legal training to investigate whether there was any credibility to Christianity.
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What kind of an idiot Atheist (a staunch one at that) needs to investigate further to find any "credibility" to an opposing school of thought? Haha...this guy had no initiative. He does not deserve to be called an Atheist. No wonder he converted to Christianity like the mis-informed jelly-doughnut that he was.
Also, warranto, this is the most recent information on the state of things today (dated Feb 25, 2008):
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/wayoflife/02/25/religion.survey.ap/index.html?ire f=newssearch
Happy reading! 
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@ Blazer: I don't give two asshats about the poorly-made movies and was not talking about the movie. I make my own "movie" in my mind as I read the book.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319871 is a reply to message #319788] |
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| warranto wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 10:48 |
| Rocko wrote on Thu, 28 February 2008 22:44 |
| warranto wrote on Wed, 27 February 2008 13:17 |
| Rocko wrote on Mon, 25 February 2008 21:35 |
if people were not force-fed christianity from birth and didn't learn about it until their teen years or at least like until high school, I wonder if anyone would still be foolish enough to believe in that ridiculous shit.
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One example of someone was a "devout atheist"-turned-chrsitan who is well received in both the literary world and the philosophy world is C.S. Lewis.
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I don't find that the person who wrote a piece of shit like chronicles of narnia to be some super intellectual.
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Heh, unfortunatly the literary world and the philosophy world disagree with you.
I could really care less what the average and contextually-uneducated person thinks of him. Unless, you mean to tell me you are an English or Philosophy major who has studied his works?
Also, a quick google search shows a number of people who have changed from atheism to religion as an adult. One such person: http://www.canada.com/edmontonjournal/news/story.html?id=1b665e72-5562-45ab-bc11 -2a88a339ba6c&k=77212
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i major in nigonomotry
also he was most likely was ignorant enough already that he first became an athiest as a rebellious teen and then while still with the same retarded mind found some charismatic priest who got him to believe in christianity without really proving or saying anything.
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| Rocko wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 19:43 |
i major in nigonomotry
also he was most likely was ignorant enough already that he first became an athiest as a rebellious teen and then while still with the same retarded mind found some charismatic priest who got him to believe in christianity without really proving or saying anything.
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Thinking that you might have actually said somting intellectual, I went and google'd.... "nigonomotry".
You believe everything needs to be proved? You're obviously wrong.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50 |
I say a personal fanning of the genitals would be awesome.
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| cnc95fan wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 20:50 |
| Rocko wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 19:43 |
i major in nigonomotry
also he was most likely was ignorant enough already that he first became an athiest as a rebellious teen and then while still with the same retarded mind found some charismatic priest who got him to believe in christianity without really proving or saying anything.
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Thinking that you might have actually said somting intellectual, I went and google'd.... "nigonomotry".
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc167/cnc95fan/yousuck.jpg[/img]
You believe everything needs to be proved? You're obviously wrong.
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lol at how you are totally not understanding the joke he made there.
yeah
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| u6795 wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 19:51 |
| cnc95fan wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 20:50 |
| Rocko wrote on Fri, 29 February 2008 19:43 |
i major in nigonomotry
also he was most likely was ignorant enough already that he first became an athiest as a rebellious teen and then while still with the same retarded mind found some charismatic priest who got him to believe in christianity without really proving or saying anything.
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Thinking that you might have actually said somting intellectual, I went and google'd.... "nigonomotry".
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc167/cnc95fan/yousuck.jpg[/img]
You believe everything needs to be proved? You're obviously wrong.
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lol at how you are totally not understanding the joke he made there.
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Point it out please.
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50 |
I say a personal fanning of the genitals would be awesome.
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| Re: F*ck you Harry Potter bashers... [message #319875 is a reply to message #318400] |
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'nigonomotry'
It relates to a commonly used term of endearment among people of African descent, which I don't think I'll say due to everyone probably going OMFG RACIST.
yeah
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