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| Re: Election '08 [message #309427 is a reply to message #308124] |
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GoArmy44
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The English actually USED the conquered areas for trading, shipping, factories, etc. Thats why they were able to keep such favor among the conquered for so long.
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I very much doubt the British built up a industrialized economy in their conquered lands. In the American colonies as in the Indian sub-continent the British practiced Mercantilism, this means that the British built up their industry at home, protected it with tariffs, then sold the goods to the colonists who in return provided Britain with agricultural goods and raw materials. This economic policy is one of the reasons (and taxes) we rebelled against mother england.
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MWright967 wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 21:37
The English actually USED the conquered areas for trading, shipping, factories, etc. Thats why they were able to keep such favor among the conquered for so long.
I don't know my history very well, but didn't almost every country used their conquered land for trading and stuff? I mean... what else to use the land for? Porn storage?
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Most empires did...I like to think the Mongols didn't do that...they just pillaged and raped but thats probably not true.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309437 is a reply to message #308124] |
Wed, 09 January 2008 21:41 |
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PS: Hillary is loco. Nation wide health care is what communism does.
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Under that assumption Social Security that goes into the pocket of old, rich, greedy hacks can be also called communism.
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Well considering that communist regimes have historically been the most brutal in regards to human rights violations...I find that assumption not too far off the mark.
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Only second to the US, it has an established record of overthrowing electing military governments and creating dictatorships in the name of "democracy".
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Marxism doesn't work in large populations. You know, such as America that has 300 million people.
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Funny, I assumed that it didn't work because the West was trying to overthrow Communist governments every other Thrusday.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309441 is a reply to message #309426] |
Wed, 09 January 2008 21:56 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 21:37 |
The English actually USED the conquered areas for trading, shipping, factories, etc. Thats why they were able to keep such favor among the conquered for so long.
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I don't know my history very well, but didn't almost every country used their conquered land for trading and stuff? I mean... what else to use the land for? Porn storage?
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You don't understand what I mean.
See, what Hitler did, was that once he conquered an area, he would set up factories and such. HOWEVER! The english were different. The English didn't crete mandatory factories or anything like that. They just used the places that were already there, but got greatly reduced prices, and bonuses. The reason they did this? Quite simple. People who are essentially, slaves, are going to want to revolt at some point. This way, the people remain at least somewhat happy, and get PAYED for the job. The English Empire, until sometime in the 1800's, was the most powerful country on earth because of this tactic.
Basically, the differince is, one of them forced people to work, the others just ''bargained''. But of course, if they didn't do as expected, punishmental action would mostly be taken. Its sort of, don't ask don't tell.
I actually studied English History for 2 years in college. Pretty amazing stuff, actually.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309702 is a reply to message #308124] |
Thu, 10 January 2008 16:58 |
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I hear those claims are false. My friend researched them when he heard about them, and apparently they're false.
Either way, it wouldn't affect MY choice in who to vote for even if they were to be true. He could be a member of the KKK and promoting the lynching of blacks, but as long as he keeps to libertarian ideals (which would condemn the lynchings), I wouldn't give a fuck.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309760 is a reply to message #309457] |
Thu, 10 January 2008 20:45 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 17:52 |
| Rocko wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:32 |
OBAMA GONNA WIN IT ALL
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Rocko, you are the kind of person who really makes me ashamed to be half black.
Heres an idea, stop being a retard and go read a book.
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Well if you stopped focusing on the color of people's skins and focused only on their words and personality, then you might not be such a huge racist faggot.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309766 is a reply to message #309764] |
Thu, 10 January 2008 21:27 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 22:23 |
| Rocko wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 21:45 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 17:52 |
| Rocko wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:32 |
OBAMA GONNA WIN IT ALL
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Rocko, you are the kind of person who really makes me ashamed to be half black.
Heres an idea, stop being a retard and go read a book.
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Well if you stopped focusing on the color of people's skins and focused only on their words and personality, then you might not be such a huge racist faggot.
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Oooh, okay. Tell the half black half chinese left wing guy he's being racist. Right.
Weren't you the one who said ''So my people can take over''? Nawwww, thats not racist at ALL.
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So if you're part of any minority it's impossible for someone to be racist? Yeah whatever dumbshit.
and don't even try to attack me instead of defending yourself and your own racist views.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309768 is a reply to message #308124] |
Thu, 10 January 2008 21:31 |
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Weren't you the one who said ''So my people can take over''? Nawwww, thats not racist at ALL.
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No, that isn't, and I think you're overacting to his post, Rocko can't be older than 18.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309955 is a reply to message #309771] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:10 |
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| RoShamBo wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 22:53 |
| Rocko wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 21:45 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 17:52 |
| Rocko wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:32 |
OBAMA GONNA WIN IT ALL
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Rocko, you are the kind of person who really makes me ashamed to be half black.
Heres an idea, stop being a retard and go read a book.
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Well if you stopped focusing on the color of people's skins and focused only on their words and personality, then you might not be such a huge racist faggot.
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Hypocrite.
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k most everything i say involving race such as my first post have just been a joke in a satirical fashion. Mwright's posts are outright racist. Too bad you're too much of an elitist piece of shit trying to be smart to notice this.
and to Mwright himself, you faggot. You are incredibly, and regardless of if i'm a hypocrite (which i'm not), racist and trying to attack only me instead of the argument proves how big of a retard you are.
black and proud
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309956 is a reply to message #309955] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:11 |
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| Rocko wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 18:10 |
| RoShamBo wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 22:53 |
| Rocko wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 21:45 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 17:52 |
| Rocko wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:32 |
OBAMA GONNA WIN IT ALL
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Rocko, you are the kind of person who really makes me ashamed to be half black.
Heres an idea, stop being a retard and go read a book.
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Well if you stopped focusing on the color of people's skins and focused only on their words and personality, then you might not be such a huge racist faggot.
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Hypocrite.
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k most everything i say involving race such as my first post have just been a joke in a satirical fashion. Mwright's posts are outright racist. Too bad you're too much of an elitist piece of shit trying to be smart to notice this.
and to Mwright himself, you faggot. You are incredibly, and regardless of if i'm a hypocrite (which i'm not), racist and trying to attack only me instead of the argument proves how big of a retard you are.
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I lol'ed.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309957 is a reply to message #309956] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:12 |
Rocko
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| MWright967 wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 18:11 |
| Rocko wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 18:10 |
| RoShamBo wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 22:53 |
| Rocko wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 21:45 |
| MWright967 wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 17:52 |
| Rocko wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 23:32 |
OBAMA GONNA WIN IT ALL
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Rocko, you are the kind of person who really makes me ashamed to be half black.
Heres an idea, stop being a retard and go read a book.
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Well if you stopped focusing on the color of people's skins and focused only on their words and personality, then you might not be such a huge racist faggot.
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Hypocrite.
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k most everything i say involving race such as my first post have just been a joke in a satirical fashion. Mwright's posts are outright racist. Too bad you're too much of an elitist piece of shit trying to be smart to notice this.
and to Mwright himself, you faggot. You are incredibly, and regardless of if i'm a hypocrite (which i'm not), racist and trying to attack only me instead of the argument proves how big of a retard you are.
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I lol'ed.
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what server or forum did you take that i lol'ed line you unoriginal retard,
suck some of my fat black cock
black and proud
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309966 is a reply to message #309957] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:29 |
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| Rocko wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 18:12 |
suck some of my fat black cock
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Gay.... 
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50 |
I say a personal fanning of the genitals would be awesome.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309967 is a reply to message #309382] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:30 |
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| Sn1per74* wrote on Thu, 10 January 2008 01:13 |
| Dover wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 19:08 |
| Sn1per74* wrote on Tue, 08 January 2008 19:31 |
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| cheesesoda wrote on Mon, 07 January 2008 19:12 |
People need to learn that Ron Paul is NOT an Isolationist and DOES NOT promote Isolationism. Ron Paul is a non-Interventionist. He still wants America to be a part of the world economy and be friendly to all nations. He just doesn't want to intervene like we have in the Middle East over the past 30 years and longer.
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Good luck with that. That's me telling people that Hillary isn't a Communist and doesn't have sand in her vagina. Even though it's true, Americans believe what the TV tells them.
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AHAHAHA. Quote of the year! 
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I'm not sure if you understood me. I actually support Clinton.
Speaking of whom, she won the Primarys, along with McCain. Things are going my way it seems. 
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O.
Even so it made me laugh.
PS: Hillary is loco. Nation wide health care is what communism does.
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We used to have a elected Communist in Canada, which is why we don't have to pay money to go to the emergency room, like you people.
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[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309979 is a reply to message #308124] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:43 |
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[19:16:48] <APBBR> @ryan3k: THE ENFIELD DEFIES THE LAWS OF PHYSICS BECAUSE THE BULLETS INSTANTLY HIT THEIR TARGETS LOL
[19:16:52] <APBBR> @ryan3k: CHRONO TECHNOLOGY IN TEH BULLETS
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309984 is a reply to message #309424] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:46 |
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| MWright967 wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 20:37 |
| GoArmy44 wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 21:31 |
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cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 17:58
especially the part where they create inflation by printing off new money. The government is our own worst nightmare when it comes to the economy.
So the sollution is lazie-faire capitalism? Revolutions have been fought and empires toppled over capitalism gone wrong. I don't know how people can still support it at all.
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I wouldn't use those examples as laissez-faire economies. The French Monarchy and the British Empire were more like mercantile economies where strong government regulation at the federal level was used to protect the industries of those countries.
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The English empire has been the 2nd most successful empire ever created. For one simple reason.
Hitler had it all wrong. He tried to make enemies to conquer the land.
The English actually USED the conquered areas for trading, shipping, factories, etc. Thats why they were able to keep such favor among the conquered for so long.
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uhuh and the first was?
| Cabal8616 wrote on Sun, 27 April 2008 15:50 |
I say a personal fanning of the genitals would be awesome.
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| Re: Election '08 [message #309990 is a reply to message #309984] |
Fri, 11 January 2008 17:55 |
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| cnc95fan wrote on Fri, 11 January 2008 18:46 |
| MWright967 wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 20:37 |
| GoArmy44 wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 21:31 |
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cheesesoda wrote on Wed, 09 January 2008 17:58
especially the part where they create inflation by printing off new money. The government is our own worst nightmare when it comes to the economy.
So the sollution is lazie-faire capitalism? Revolutions have been fought and empires toppled over capitalism gone wrong. I don't know how people can still support it at all.
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I wouldn't use those examples as laissez-faire economies. The French Monarchy and the British Empire were more like mercantile economies where strong government regulation at the federal level was used to protect the industries of those countries.
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The English empire has been the 2nd most successful empire ever created. For one simple reason.
Hitler had it all wrong. He tried to make enemies to conquer the land.
The English actually USED the conquered areas for trading, shipping, factories, etc. Thats why they were able to keep such favor among the conquered for so long.
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uhuh and the first was?
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I'd say Rome, except it wasn't technically a country. America has been the most successful for multiple reasons:
- Its democratic system is unmatched
- Its on good terms with most countries
- It has the least problems in terms of benefitting the poor
- Its the most technologically advanced country on earth (NO. It is not Japan. This is a retarded misconception. Japan has the best technology in things like, cameras, computers, etc. However, for weaponry, it comes no where close to America).
- Has lasted over 230 years, which is more than I can say for many countries.
- Has an unsurpassed army training programm, and the most well equipped troops on earth.
- Trades with nearly every country in some form or another
- Has one of the highest money values of any country
- Has one of the best immigration policies in the Americas
I can keep going on and on. Point being, America, in my view, is the most successful country.
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