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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #305956 is a reply to message #302553] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 13:13   |
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Who's tearing apart the community? Almost all the people here enjoy seeing progress for such W3D mods as APB, Apoc Rising, Reborn, Roleplay 2, and such nextgen mods as C&C Farcry, Command & Crysis, and Ren07. There's really nothing wrong with it - they're free anyway and if people enjoy playing them, nothing happens to the community. Tiberium on the other hand WILL split the community as some will support it and buy it, some will stick here.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #305988 is a reply to message #305956] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 15:48 |
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Fobby[GEN] wrote on Thu, 27 December 2007 14:13]Tiberium on the other hand WILL split the community as some will support it and buy it, some will stick here.
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if people don't "stick here" after Tiberium's release, that would surely mean Tiberium is, to those people, better than Renegade.
Frankly, I'm just waiting for Tiberium to be released, turn out to be actually very good, and watch half the people here get really angry at that.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #305996 is a reply to message #302553] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 16:36 |
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If it were good I'd go out and buy it. From the looks of it though, it'll be a Battlefield clone... I'll probably just play it for a few weeks then come back to Renegade. That happens with every game.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306045 is a reply to message #302553] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 18:24 |
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I hope Tiberium is good. Hell, I hope it's so good that no one needs to play Renegade anymore. I doubt it will happen, and I won't expect it to happen either, but I will do anything I can to help make Tiberium a success. But, in the case where Tiberium is to Renegade what C&C3 is to Renegade (which is what I expect), then Renegade will still be here and I will keep going on as I always do.
For the record, I don't support any of the so-called "next generation" mods, with statements such as these:
"We as a community are just looking for a new Renegade-type game to move onto next."
... which is a lie. I think if you somehow managed to poll everyone who still plays Renegade, you'd find that most of them would prefer Renegade to be fixed rather than to see it recreated on some other engine which would probably require computer upgrades, purchasing some other game, installing some other game and getting it to work on their system, learning some other engine/game's controls, learning to mod on a new engine, etc. You can try to argue that all you'd like but it's not a far-fetched idea or simply my opinion that people in general do not like change or expending extra effort to play a game. If you need evidence, just look at the a000 "problem".
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306066 is a reply to message #302553] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 19:33 |
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I'm just waiting to see the outcome of it. So far, from early looks, it seems like a battlefield clone. However, I'll judge when it comes out. I'm hoping all our concerns will be mistaken and it'll be a great addition to C&C, not a "great" addition to C&C like Generals.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306072 is a reply to message #302553] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 19:49 |
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... which is a lie. I think if you somehow managed to poll everyone who still plays Renegade, you'd find that most of them would prefer Renegade to be fixed rather than to see it recreated on some other engine which would probably require computer upgrades, purchasing some other game, installing some other game and getting it to work on their system, learning some other engine/game's controls, learning to mod on a new engine, etc. You can try to argue that all you'd like but it's not a far-fetched idea or simply my opinion that people in general do not like change or expending extra effort to play a game. If you need evidence, just look at the a000 "problem".
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Sure, there are people just looking for an amped up Renegade - but there are plenty (which is an understatement) of people who are simply tired of the obvious problems. Some of these problems are simply limitations of the W3D engine; things you cannot fix. Till today I see the same bugs in the game that it had 6 tears ago, despite lots of mods trying to improve the game and engine. I am a modder and I've worked with the W3D engine for a few years now; I am quite familiar with its faults and limitations over newer engines.
I've run into literally hundreds of people from the UT community who are former Renegade players; who used to be people like me or you, who have left the game simply because of these problems and are thrilled to see mods like C&Crysis and Ren07.
Most people don't need a new computer to play Unreal Tournament 3. This is a non-issue; UT3 has very low minimum specs chart. Almost everyone I know was able to run their Betademo; my brother has a 5 year old computer and is still able to run the game on low settings. Even if you're not able to run UT3, you might as well buy a new PC for Tiberium, which is a next-gen title.
Surely I never said my mod is for everyone. Nor are we 'forcing' anyone to buy UT3 to play our mod, but the 3 major communities I have high statuses in are thrilled to see C&C Renegade reborn anew. Heck, dozens of posts on this very thread are saying the exact same thing. After Apoc stated that there won't be a C&C mode, we received a huge jump in popularity, making December our best month in terms of unique site hits.
If Tiberium becomes something innovating and what we hope it to be, I have no problem purchasing that game, purchasing a new PC to play it on high settings, and move my clan community to that game. However as Apoc has said, we should not be looking at it as a Renegade 2, so I'm not going to get my hopes up. We'll see though.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306090 is a reply to message #306074] |
Thu, 27 December 2007 20:53 |
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| Ethenal wrote on Fri, 28 December 2007 10:53 |
Just to reiterate what Fobby said, UT3 has very low specs compared to games like Crysis. If you can maintain a decent 30FPS in a 40 player Renegade server, chances are you can run UT3.
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Not true... I have to run UT3 at lowest to frag some people properly while I can run Rene at highest in a huge server at around 70fps.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306142 is a reply to message #305988] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 03:16 |
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| Ethenal wrote on Fri, 28 December 2007 04:00 |
| nopol10 wrote on Thu, 27 December 2007 21:53 |
| Ethenal wrote on Fri, 28 December 2007 10:53 |
Just to reiterate what Fobby said, UT3 has very low specs compared to games like Crysis. If you can maintain a decent 30FPS in a 40 player Renegade server, chances are you can run UT3.
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Not true... I have to run UT3 at lowest to frag some people properly while I can run Rene at highest in a huge server at around 70fps.
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You must have a strong CPU and a terrible video card. I run 5-20FPS on n00bstories (50 players), but can run UT3 with around 50-60.
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How much ram do you have?
Also, turn on Anti-aliasing to 2MSAA, I'm pretty sure you'll notice more FPS.
| Spoony wrote on Thu, 27 December 2007 22:48 |
Frankly, I'm just waiting for Tiberium to be released, turn out to be actually very good, and watch half the people here get really angry at that.
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I was thinking about something similar to this, and I realised:
If people actually love this game, not only does it prove it's good, but EA actually got it right this time, hopefully it isn't a shitty clone of BF2/BF2142 and has an original idea.
Presence is a curious thing, if you think you need to prove it... you probably never had it in the first place.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306214 is a reply to message #306089] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 10:26 |
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| Mighty BOB! wrote on Thu, 27 December 2007 20:52 |
| Crimson wrote on Thu, 27 December 2007 19:24 |
I think if you somehow managed to poll everyone who still plays Renegade, you'd find that most of them would prefer Renegade to be fixed rather than to see it recreated on some other engine
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Maybe. In fact I would probably be one of the ones voting for fixing Renegade rather than remaking it, but face it, unless EA releases source code Renegade will NEVER be "fixed."
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Yes, if only they would release it... *evil grin*
Yes, if that were to happen I'd certainly be a big part in the efforts to work with the source code and get all those bugs fixed and the engine and netcode updated.
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| Re: C&C Tiberium - FPS Game [message #306330 is a reply to message #302553] |
Fri, 28 December 2007 19:54 |
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3 CNC universes:
1)red alert, that WWII style thing
2)tiberium, renegade, tiberium sun, C&C3 everything else
3) generals
^^heres the tricky part, the game is called Tiberium, but NOT set in the tiberium universe? But yes it is C&C Tiberium, so I assume, new universie, which is fine, aslong as a C&C Mode is included.
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