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It did indeed expire, lol
Now, I'd say EA have got this right so far, with two problems:
1: A little too fast, slow down the game.
2: Walls!!!!
Other than that, it looks amazing, it feels like C and C, I am happy to say I will be buying this game, and wasting hours playing LAN games with my elder brother.
P.s: did anyone here find the side tab -too- graphical? For something that is more a tool than a decoration it's very decorated.
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| Re: C&C3 Demo and C&C3 Official Website discussion (merged) [message #247862 is a reply to message #247846] |
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| NukeIt15 wrote on Fri, 02 March 2007 21:25 |
I can't speak for everyone who takes issue with the new game, but for my part it isn't so much that I want a game with the same strategies as the one before as it is that I want a game with more than one strategy. Rushing is going to be the dominant strategy in C&C3, more so than it ever was before, and it is going to be an uncommon round that even reaches the 30 minute mark. No new strategies are added for all the ones that are taken away; arguing that wanting them back is wanting the same old game is like taking away three of your car's wheels then, when you buy a new car and want four wheels, being asked if you want four so that it can be just like the one you had before with a shiny new paint job. I could see making that argument if C&C3 already had in it the potential to succeed using even most of the strategies that were possible before, but it just doesn't.
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I know how you could get that opinion just based on the demo, but there's more to it. First of all, you can challenge AI that plays "turtle" style. Second of all, there's a "rules" tab that's not active in the demo, but I believe it has settings in there that prevent attacking for a certain length of time. In the XBOX version, there's a mode where there's a big wall between the bases to physically stop you. Don't base the whole game on a feature-limited demo.
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Yeah, so when I first downloaded the demo, the second skirmish game I played, I decided to set it to -95% on myself to see what happened... I'll tell you what, it is not fun watching the AI destroy every building in one hit each.
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The super weapons are to super. 
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I don't know if you meant to do that, but triple redundancy for teh win. I LOL'ed.
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| Re: C&C3 Demo and C&C3 Official Website discussion (merged) [message #247900 is a reply to message #247740] |
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| EvilWhiteDragon wrote on Fri, 02 March 2007 07:54 |
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I knew they took the walls out but I never used them so I didn't realize they were a big deal.
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you said yourself that you never really played rts games...
Maybe we would have been better off if someone who did play a lot of TD and TS etc. That way EA would have gotten proper comments on it..
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People from sites like GameReplays.org were there for the RTS knowhow, but because it's the newest C&C game they also got someone to represent the earlier C&C games too.
Expecting a Renegade community leader to be an RTS expert would be like expecting a RTS community leader to be an expert at, say, Halo 2.
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| Crimson wrote on Sat, 03 March 2007 02:16 |
I know how you could get that opinion just based on the demo, but there's more to it. First of all, you can challenge AI that plays "turtle" style. Second of all, there's a "rules" tab that's not active in the demo, but I believe it has settings in there that prevent attacking for a certain length of time. In the XBOX version, there's a mode where there's a big wall between the bases to physically stop you. Don't base the whole game on a feature-limited demo.
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You can actually choose the different AI types in the demo too, in the same way you can play as NOD, but I haven't have had the time to check if it actually changes the behavior at this point.
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| NukeIt15 wrote on Fri, 02 March 2007 22:25 |
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Why would you want to play a game that has the EXACT same strategies as the older games? Why is so bad for a game to evolve and keep up with the times? If we just want a copy of Red Alert with better graphics on a better engine, then make a mod!
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I can't speak for everyone who takes issue with the new game, but for my part it isn't so much that I want a game with the same strategies as the one before as it is that I want a game with more than one strategy. Rushing is going to be the dominant strategy in C&C3, more so than it ever was before, and it is going to be an uncommon round that even reaches the 30 minute mark.
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| NEFobbyGEN wrote on Sat, 03 March 2007 13:18 |
Not really. There are tonnes of strategies and counter strategies. I agree that some are better than others, and some will work 90% of the time, but nonetheless I've done some of the craziest stuff in Renegade with my clan.
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Renegade is also not an RTS... it's a combined-arms first/third person shooter. With all due respect to Ren, it doesn't compare to C&C3 or any of the rest of the series; it is a completely different animal.
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| Scythar wrote on Sat, 03 March 2007 11:15 |
You can actually choose the different AI types in the demo too, in the same way you can play as NOD, but I haven't have had the time to check if it actually changes the behavior at this point.
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Oh, it does. I have not been able to beat the Medium Balanced AI, but I was able to beat the Medium Turtle. Their strategies were quite different. The Medium Turtle never sent troops after my base until I started attacking him and he had a decent force built up. The "Balanced" AI sends out those suicide forces rather quickly.
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